Class 3A Split Div. 1 and Div. 2

[Matthew328]

Check question #22

http://www.uiltexas.org/files/spring-2011-superindendent-survey-results.pdf


Currently in Conference 3A football, Schools are placed in districts based on geography and play the regular season. Division I and Division II playoff determinations are made after district representatives have been
decided. Each district advances three teams to the playoffs. Of the three advancing teams, the school with the
largest enrollment in grades 9-12 advances to the Division I bracket and the other two teams advance to the
Division II bracket. Each Division of Conference 3A football plays for a state championship and two champions are crowned. Beginning with the 2012 season, the schools participating in Conference 3A football would
be split approximately in half, with the largest enrollment schools comprising Division I and the remaining
schools comprising Division II. Conference 3A football would consist of thirty-two (32) districts, with approximately six schools in each district. Division I schools would be placed into approximately 16 districts with other
Division I schools. Division II schools would be placed into approximately 16 districts with other Division II
schools. Three teams would advance to the playoffs from each Division I district and three teams would advance to the playoffs from each Division II district. Each Division of Conference 3A football would play for a
state championship and two champions would be crowned. Do you favor a rule change that splits the Conference 3A football alignment into divisions prior to the season as is currently done in Conference 1A Six-man ,
1A 11-man and 2A football


73 said they favor Div 1/2 split prior to the season..70 say no

[GrTigers6]

I like the idea, however it will be too late for me as my son will be graduating next may! :(

Because there is way too much enrollment distance between the bottom of the division and the top, Not sure how it will work out though, can be interesting.:thinking:

[bobcat1]

Sounds good to me but I would want division 1 and 2 to play for the ultimate championship.:cool:

[MGAR]

I think it's the right way to go...

Seems to work well for the 1As and 2As..

[Trashman]

Since it passed by such a narrow margin is it likely to be implemented?

[Matthew328]

I doubt it

[Trashman]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I doubt it

too bad, seems to work well in the smaller schools.:(

[Pendragon13]

Sounds good to me, except that I think that only two schools from each district should advance to avoid watering down the early rounds. Oh, and the Div1 and Div2 champs should play each other for the state title. That may sound unfair to the smaller schools, but I guarantee you that it wouldn't be lopsided in favor of the bigger schools on a regular basis.;)

[SHSBulldog00]

Based on the last realignment what would be the number that splits D1 and D2?

[MGAR]

Originally posted by SHSBulldog00
Based on the last realignment what would be the number that splits D1 and D2?

650?

[zebrablue2]

Travel will be a big problem!

[raider red 2000]

Originally posted by Trashman
too bad, seems to work well in the smaller schools.:(

i am not a big fan of it at 2a.

having different districts for football and volleyball is kinda a pain.

[upper20]

Originally posted by zebrablue2
Travel will be a big problem!

That is what I assume as well -- it would be interesting to see what the districts would look like in order to know how big a problem

[JasperDog94]

Why can't they split it by region once the playoff teams are set? Take the top 8 (by enrollment) playoff teams in each region. The rest are D II teams. This would be a good compromise I would think.

[raider red 2000]

my thinking is....if you do it for football....do it for all sports.

[Z-RO]

Add a class 6A
Take top 2 out of each district
Make D1 winner play D2 winner

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by Trashman
Since it passed by such a narrow margin is it likely to be implemented?
I asked Dr Mark Cousins, UIL Athletic Director, this very question and his exact quote was "I believe that we have taken the split division idea as far as it will go". He said that "unless something drastically changes, 1A and 2A will be the only levels that the UIL will do it with. I will admit that things can change but I doubt it. He told me that 3A superintendents were pretty evenly split (evidenced by the numbers posted) and that 4A and 5A were strongly against it.

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by Z-RO
Add a class 6A
Take top 2 out of each district
Make D1 winner play D2 winner
We may get 6A but not like you think but the rest will not happen.

[CenTexSports]

It can be very strange in the outcome. For Cameron this year, they were the Region III football champions but they were the Region IV baseball champions. I like the districts to be consistent from sport to sport and I don't think they should change regions from sport to sport.

[Phil C]

California here we come!

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by CenTexSports
It can be very strange in the outcome. For Cameron this year, they were the Region III football champions but they were the Region IV baseball champions. I like the districts to be consistent from sport to sport and I don't think they should change regions from sport to sport. Yeah switching regions for football and baseball is a little strange, but sometimes it can't be avoided. For example, Abilene Wylie has to go 4A for sports like boy/girls soccer and swimming since there aren't many 3A schools in the region that offer those sports.

[RoyceTTU]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Yeah switching regions for football and baseball is a little strange, but sometimes it can't be avoided. For example, Abilene Wylie has to go 4A for sports like boy/girls soccer and swimming since there aren't many 3A schools in the region that offer those sports.

Swimming???? Really, most 4a schools don't even have swimming.

Wylie = 5A :D :p

[95mustang]

Originally posted by RoyceTTU
Swimming???? Really, most 4a schools don't even have swimming.

Wylie = 5A :D :p

Alot of the 3A schools out in West Texas have swimming programs. Andrews and Monahans have strong programs.

[Buckeye1980]

If you want the D1 and D2 champions to play , than why have 2 separate divisions. I may be old fashioned , but I still say 2 teams make playoffs with NO divisions and have ONE champion in each class

Champion (adjective) first among all contestants or competitors.

[JustAFan]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Yeah switching regions for football and baseball is a little strange, but sometimes it can't be avoided. For example, Abilene Wylie has to go 4A for sports like boy/girls soccer and swimming since there aren't many 3A schools in the region that offer those sports.

UIL does not recognize swimming and soccer except in 4A and 5A, so all schools who participate in those have to participate at that level, not just Wylie.

[HM33]

To actually split it before the season is dumb IMO. Basically that is saying 3a needs to be split into 3a and 4a, then bumping 4a up to 5a and 5a up to 6a. 3a is 3a. I like the big school little school thing but honestly I would prefer ONE 3a champ rather than DI and DII. I understand that gives more kids and programs opportunities but making the playoffs should be a big tough deal to accomplish.

Adding more teams to make playoffs is dumb. Why have a regular season then? Basically that is what is happening.

[mwynn05]

no its not... 32 districts x 3 teams... 3a d1 16 districts 3 teams 3a d2 16 districts 3 teams.... maybe my math is bad?

[Ernest T Bass]

BW's got the lowdown on this. He's the one to talk to.