What's up with our DPS troopers?

[Cam]

My son has been ticketed twice in the last few months for not wearing his seatbelt. Problem is, he WAS wearing his seat belt. He's so upset about it he is contesting both. I know my son. And, I know he's not lying. The first ticket happened when he was driving down the highway and the DPS trooper was going the opposite direction. At first my son thought he was speeding. And of course, the trooper accused my kid of putting on the seatbelt after he turned around to chase. Anyway, my son has already appeared at the first hearing and the judge was impressed with his story. So, a court date is pending to let the people of Burnet decide. The second ticket my son thinks he's figured out. He mentioned to me he has a habit of adjusting the belt with his right hand. At the time, he was at a stop light. He thinks the trooper saw this action and assumed he was just putting it on. I'm proud of him for standing up for himself. He may not win but at least he fought it. So, beware....I think the DPS is trying to meet some quotas.....

[Bull's-eye]

They got my uncle for the same thing & he was also wearing his seatbelt. :(

[WildTexan972]

you gotta make up a $10 billion shortage somehow....


they get the ones that look like they can pay instead of the illegal alien mommas with 11 kids floppin all over the car not in car seats or belts since they just skip out on any tickets they receive...THAT should be the purpose of the tickets - to get kids strapped in - but they just use tickets now for revenue not for safety

[Phil C]

A municipal judge once told me a young man was stopped (I don't remember why) but to get his DL out of his back pocket he undid his seat belt to get it just before the policeman walked up. The policeman gave him a ticket for not wearing his seatbelt. The judge was nice and gave him the minimum ticket fine.

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by Phil C
The judge was nice and gave him the minimum ticket fine.

That is the cowards way out. The judge should have dropped the charge if he believed the story.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by oldtownag
That is the cowards way out. The judge should have dropped the charge if he believed the story.

your part correct, he should have dropped all charges not proven....but this is the only level of court in our country thats consistently "guilty until proven innocent"....many times you just have to appeal things to the next level where the judges care more about the law and arent just hillbillies holding court......:stirpot:

[Pendragon13]

No offense to any troopers on the board, but it is my feeling (and others as well) that the quality of the average DPS officer has gone down in the last 20 years or so.

[zebrablue2]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
No offense to any troopers on the board, but it is my feeling (and others as well) that the quality of the average DPS officer has gone down in the last 20 years or so.


Would u want the job? I mean really, all they do is put their lives on the line for each and every one of us each day. If one pulls me over and writes me up, I will still give him or her a big thanks for making our world a safer place to live! I know I would NOT want their job, and thank the lord for each and every one of them!!!

[trojandad]

Originally posted by zebrablue2
Would u want the job? I mean really, all they do is put their lives on the line for each and every one of us each day. If one pulls me over and writes me up, I will still give him or her a big thanks for making our world a safer place to live! I know I would NOT want their job, and thank the lord for each and every one of them!!!

isnt that the "all or nothing" argument? i mean i am very grateful for their help on violent crimes, have held picnics for our local guys and am a 100 club member, but i dont think my appreciation of their help in one area should cause me to feel appreciation for writing a ticket if they didnt see the seatbelt unfastened....

their nobility in putting themselves in harms way shouldnt be wasted on making ticket quotas with misrepresenting the truth, that brings them down to the common thug level IMO.....theyre better than that.....

[injuredinmelee]

There is a big push across the country about seat belts. Just wear it and deal with it. If you were and he is still being a douche fight it. I had a city cop pull me over beause he saw me putting on my seat belt so I reminded him yes but you never saw me without it then did you? He didnt write ticket.

[Ernest T Bass]

Just a few thoughts:
I want the seatbelt law repealed. If you're dumb enough to drive without it, why should anyone other than your parents care? Who are you harming other than yourself?
DPS officers are paid very little compared to other branches of law enforcement. About 15 years ago, my dad was a special agent for SP railroad when they were bought out by the UP. He was suddenly without a job. A DPS position became available, which he applied for. He was fortunate enough to be offered a much better position that he still holds, but DPS would have been a huge paycut.
Highway patrol's job is to enforce traffic laws. That's it. Sometimes, due to the nature of that, they end up stumbling upon other offenses. Also, in some rural areas that have no law enforcement office, they ARE the law. But, their job is still to enforce traffic laws on the state's highways.
What really pisses me off are the small towns that make a living patroling the 4 miles of highway that go through their jurisdiction!

[Reds fan]

Why would DPS have quotas? It's fairly obvious that the local officers, county level on down, would have them but counter intuitive for DPS to have them. Any revenue from tickets goes to local municipalties, nothing goes to the state.

[rancher]

Who do you think that judge is going to believe, you or the DPS Trooper. Remember, times are hard and money is needed.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by Reds fan
Why would DPS have quotas? It's fairly obvious that the local officers, county level on down, would have them but counter intuitive for DPS to have them. Any revenue from tickets goes to local municipalties, nothing goes to the state.

my cousin was a dps officer and they do have quotas, not hard ones but expectations from above, nevertheless....and your correct in the actual payment of the tickets go locally, but each year the local courts have to correlate their books with the stats on how many dollars in tickets the local dps officers have written, then send in the state's portion as a "fee", so the state gets their split....

seat belt laws are great, we just have to get that nonsense of posting $1000 bond in order to get the case up to an appellate level, keeps lots of innocent drivers from being able to have justice served if they are innocent, because most seatbelt violations are among the easiest tickets to have overturned.....

[bp80884]

Seat belt laws are a joke. We shou,d be able to decide for ourselves if we want to wear them.

I am ok if they want to mandate them for kids, but not adults. Enforce speed and othr laws, but the seat belt laws have always ticked me off.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by bp80884
Seat belt laws are a joke. We shou,d be able to decide for ourselves if we want to wear them.

I am ok if they want to mandate them for kids, but not adults. Enforce speed and othr laws, but the seat belt laws have always ticked me off.

it is kinda hard to handle that pregnant moms have say so over life and death with their bodies but other adults dont have that say so over their own....but thats society of any type for ya....

[turbostud]

A guy I am working with in Kerrville drives home after work to Bandera. He said he got pulled over for having his bright lights on. When he asked the cop why he got pulled over the cop said because he didnt dim his brights fast enough. he asked the cop are you aware of the amount of deer on the side of the road at night between Kerrville and Bandera, and you seriously pulled me over for not dimming my brights fast enough. stupid cop.

[injuredinmelee]

Originally posted by Ernest T Bass

What really pisses me off are the small towns that make a living patroling the 4 miles of highway that go through their jurisdiction!

lets name our least favorite places like this... Florence, TX and Lampasas. Both a bunch of overzealous aholes.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by injuredinmelee
lets name our least favorite places like this... Florence, TX and Lampasas. Both a bunch of overzealous aholes.

splendora....really bad.....5 mph over tickets....

[turbostud]

Los Fresnos on the way to SPI is bad.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Cam
My son has been ticketed twice in the last few months for not wearing his seatbelt. Problem is, he WAS wearing his seat belt. He's so upset about it he is contesting both. I know my son. And, I know he's not lying. The first ticket happened when he was driving down the highway and the DPS trooper was going the opposite direction. At first my son thought he was speeding. And of course, the trooper accused my kid of putting on the seatbelt after he turned around to chase. Anyway, my son has already appeared at the first hearing and the judge was impressed with his story. So, a court date is pending to let the people of Burnet decide. The second ticket my son thinks he's figured out. He mentioned to me he has a habit of adjusting the belt with his right hand. At the time, he was at a stop light. He thinks the trooper saw this action and assumed he was just putting it on. I'm proud of him for standing up for himself. He may not win but at least he fought it. So, beware....I think the DPS is trying to meet some quotas.....

The kid is lying. He's young. ;)

Many Troopers use binoculars to spot those who don't use seat belts.

:nerd:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by turbostud
Los Fresnos on the way to SPI is bad.

Raymondville sucks, too!:(

[turbostud]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Raymondville sucks, too!:(

Yea I got pulled over there on my way to Corpus. Cop said he pulled me over cause he thought my tint was to dark. he measured it and let me go. I'm thinking he thought I was smugglin.

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Raymondville sucks, too!:(

Stretch of I45 from Hutchins through Wilmer, Ferris, and Palmer.
Crandall
Every town that sits on I20.

[big daddy russ]

Originally posted by Reds fan
Any revenue from tickets goes to local municipalties, nothing goes to the state.
This is partly true. There are two reasons tickets are on the rise...

1. (obviously) Economic downturn leads to need for alternative revenue sources.

2.) "Click it or ticket" campaign. Not all local revenue from tickets goes back to cities. Much of it goes back to the state. The incentive that gets pushed during click it or ticket campaigns is that cities get back 100% of funds from seatbelt campaigns, which is why you see so many towns issuing so many tickets.


Related story: College Station's voters were presented with a bond that would construct a huge park and outdoor pavilion some years ago. The bond failed twice.

A few years later, Wolf Pen Creek Amphitheater was built. The city knew the bond would never pass, but when they saw an opportunity present itself in the form of the click it or ticket campaign, they seized it.

[MJMbrahmas10]

Texas state troopers are the biggest pieces of sh*t alive! I have been pulled over twice for my tailights which are txdot approved and once for my window tint which is illegal. All three times there attitude toward me is I am a criminal. They wanted to search my truck cuz it smelled too good, and he said we were kids going on vacation so we are up to something

[Old Tiger]

damn socialist seat belt law makers!

[poisoned10]

A few years ago, I was on my way back to Gilmer from visiting my Mom in Lake Charles, LA on Dec. 26.

I get to Newton, TX and came up to the 4-way stop getting ready to turn. As I was stopped, I took my seatbelt off to take my wallet out of my back pocket because it was starting to hurt. Before I had a chance to put it back on, a state trooper pulled up to the 4-way stop on my left. Before I started driving again, I had my seatbelt on, but got pulled over.

Even after letting him know why my seatbelt was off and that it was only off at the 4-way stop while the vehicle was not in motion, he still wrote me a ticket.

And this was before the 'Click-It or Ticket' campaign.

Also, that was the first ticket I've ever had.

[rancher]

The DPS has nothing to do, but ride around and F---K with people. Their sole function in life is to make money for the state and county in which they patrol. If they ask to search you vehicle, polite say "NO" unless you have a warrant. Be polite to them and do not get an attitude, yes sir and no sir when questions are being asked. If they still keeping talking polite ask them if you are under arrest. If they hint at that aspect, politely tell them in that case, you would like to invoke your 5th amend. rights and remain silent. If buy chance you had a drink at the local burger joint, never and I repeat never consent to a breath test or the road side gymnastics they want you to perform, just say no. Remember it is not against the law to drink, just drive when you are impaired. To be impaired, under current law it is about 2 beers.

[Cam]

Originally posted by SintonFan
The kid is lying. He's young. ;)

Many Troopers use binoculars to spot those who don't use seat belts.

:nerd:

I hope you're just messin' with me SintonFan! I didn't raise my kid to be a liar! He's as good a kid as they come. Even my 11 year old knows better than to BS anyone.
And just FYI, I support our law enforcment agencies. I've got one cousin who's a police officer in Sugarland, another cuz who's a Texas Ranger (no, not the baseball team), and a nephew who was a DPS trooper who passed away.

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by Cam
I hope you're just messin' with me SintonFan! I didn't raise my kid to be a liar! He's as good a kid as they come. Even my 11 year old knows better than to BS anyone.
And just FYI, I support our law enforcment agencies. I've got one cousin who's a police officer in Sugarland, another cuz who's a Texas Ranger (no, not the baseball team), and a nephew who was a DPS trooper who passed away. KIA or from reasons unrelated to the job? In spite of my earlier post, I too have respect for the DPS. Growing up one fo my dads friends was a trooper and the man was straight up in all ways. He kept his car clean (even if that meant washing 3-4 times a week) and his uniform always clean and spotless with the trademark beige stetson hat. He once said that he did those things because the DPS wasn't representing a city or town but the entire state of Texas. It just seems to me that these days the Rangers are the only ones still upholding those types of standards. (for the most part, there are still good troopers out there)

[Ernest T Bass]

Ha! Friday night, I was pulled over and ticketed for expired registration(just completely forgot about it). But, the funny thing is, THAT is the reason I was pulled over. Ive never heard of that. Known several people who have been pulled over for a moving violation, but no one who has actually been pulled over for that reason and that reason alone. Ive got 3 weeks to take care of it and get the ticket dismissed, but I guess it goes to show that they are a little desperate for funds thesedays.

[Saggy Aggie]

DPS saw my brothers car in s subway parking lot one time and noticed the tint was dark. He waited outside the subway til we were done and then pulled my brother over as we left. THEN, my brother is in the army and required to present his military ID... So when he did... The cop got mad at him and told him he didn't care if he was in the military and told him to put the ID away.

And last December... My gf was driving my car around college station and a DPS pulled her over for expired registration on my car. She gave him my insurance card (which was valid) and he gave it back to her and said it was expired. She was confused looking at the expiration which was the following February and asked him to look at it again. The cop then told her that that was a different insurance card and this one was good? Lol

[Cam]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
KIA or from reasons unrelated to the job? In spite of my earlier post, I too have respect for the DPS. Growing up one fo my dads friends was a trooper and the man was straight up in all ways. He kept his car clean (even if that meant washing 3-4 times a week) and his uniform always clean and spotless with the trademark beige stetson hat. He once said that he did those things because the DPS wasn't representing a city or town but the entire state of Texas. It just seems to me that these days the Rangers are the only ones still upholding those types of standards. (for the most part, there are still good troopers out there)

Unrelated to the job. He now has a daughter he never got to see. I still remember how proud he was to be a trooper. And yep, he loved his stetson too!
My Texas Ranger cuz is in the heat of the battle down in south Texas with all the drug wars going on. A few years ago, he and his crew were credited with one of the largest drug busts ever. I fear for him cause he is fearless....

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by Cam
Unrelated to the job. He now has a daughter he never got to see. I still remember how proud he was to be a trooper. And yep, he loved his stetson too!
My Texas Ranger cuz is in the heat of the battle down in south Texas with all the drug wars going on. A few years ago, he and his crew were credited with one of the largest drug busts ever. I fear for him cause he is fearless.... Yeah, Rangers these days have a much more dangerous job than they used to. I base my current opinion of the DPS on the fact that when I was a kid it was just as common to see troopers helping change a flat or putting water in a hot radiator than it was to see them with a ticket book in one hand and the other on their holstered gun. These days it is not uncommon to see dirty patrol cars, wrinkled uniforms and no hats on troopers. On the other hand I understand that things have changed, and our interstates are major drug corridors from Mexico...but still.

[DDBooger]

Every run in I have with the DPS has been cordial. In fact, they're a lot more friendly than city police. They had me step out and questioned me a bit, but I understand. They're fighting a losing war (on drugs) and putting their lives in danger for it.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Every run in I have with the DPS has been cordial. In fact, they're a lot more friendly than city police. They had me step out and questioned me a bit, but I understand. They're fighting a losing war (on drugs) and putting their lives in danger for it.


of course they asked u questions..u had a powder mustache and a pocket full of cash

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
of course they asked u questions..u had a powder mustache and a pocket full of cash So I like powdered donuts. Sue me. :rolleyes:

[Cam]

Originally posted by DDBooger
So I like powdered donuts. Sue me. :rolleyes:

Them powdered donuts are the best....:D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by DDBooger
So I like powdered donuts. Sue me. :rolleyes:

LOl..who knew those doughnuts could give u such "energy" LOL

[LeeCoMom]

Originally posted by MJMbrahmas10
Texas state troopers are the biggest pieces of sh*t alive! I have been pulled over twice for my tailights which are txdot approved and once for my window tint which is illegal. All three times there attitude toward me is I am a criminal. They wanted to search my truck cuz it smelled too good, and he said we were kids going on vacation so we are up to something

I promise you your parents won't think they are pieces of sh*t when they are called out of their beds at 3 AM to respond to a crash where an impaired driver hit your vehicle. They will thank them for doing a job that very few want to do. They are overworked and underpaid and have a huge responsibility. Their lives are endanger DAILY, which is something the majority of the public takes for granted.

For your information, if you act like you do in your response above, then I can understand why their attidude would reflect that of dealing with a possible criminal. And, it is their job to check for indicators of criminal behavior. If you are obeying the law and have nothing illegal in your car, you have nothing to worry about. Be polite and move on.

[bobcat1]

My son got a ticket for 62 in a 60 mph zone the other day. It was right where it dropped done to 60 coming into Graham. He was really pissed. I couldn't believe it either. Cost him $90. He couldn't drive 2.5 hours to fight it and he doesn't have time for Defensive driving online or in person because he works 2 jobs. He said he was right on 60mph. Either way I thought that was pretty picky of the DPS officer.

[greendawg84]

Add Bertram and Liberty Hill to the worst places to drive thru.

Bertram used to be the worst but LH has now taken the 1st prize

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by bobcat1
My son got a ticket for 62 in a 60 mph zone the other day. It was right where it dropped done to 60 coming into Graham. He was really pissed. I couldn't believe it either. Cost him $90. He couldn't drive 2.5 hours to fight it and he doesn't have time for Defensive driving online or in person because he works 2 jobs. He said he was right on 60mph. Either way I thought that was pretty picky of the DPS officer.

Celina bumper sticker?:thinking:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
Celina bumper sticker?:thinking: Nope

[trojandad]

Originally posted by LeeCoMom
I promise you your parents won't think they are pieces of sh*t when they are called out of their beds at 3 AM to respond to a crash where an impaired driver hit your vehicle. They will thank them for doing a job that very few want to do. They are overworked and underpaid and have a huge responsibility. Their lives are endanger DAILY, which is something the majority of the public takes for granted.

For your information, if you act like you do in your response above, then I can understand why their attidude would reflect that of dealing with a possible criminal. And, it is their job to check for indicators of criminal behavior. If you are obeying the law and have nothing illegal in your car, you have nothing to worry about. Be polite and move on.

no, ill thank them when they respond at 3 am, and ill take them to task for writing seat belt tickets when the silly things were fastened and the dps just didnt see correctly, THATS the real world....

we had a dps man that was arrested with a local jp a few yrs back for both molesting and extorting sex from local females and the crooked dps guy said "i put my life on the line every day, they owed me something"....its that very line you stated, that just because they lay their lives down means they can do illegal things, from writing untrue seat belt tickets to extorting sex, both are crimes, nomatter how many bullets theyve dodged...

sorry, i just dont appreciate hearing that line ofthought, ESPECIALLY after having to deal with this fruithead saying the same thing you said....they are sworn to uphold the law, i dont give a flip how many bullets they dodge, if they dont wanna tell the truth about something as petty as a $90 ticket, theyll lie when it comes time to do worse....

if its too much to be honest, find another job, there are too many of them that are upright and DO care whether they truly saw the seatbelt fastened.....

[LeeCoMom]

Originally posted by trojandad
no, ill thank them when they respond at 3 am, and ill take them to task for writing seat belt tickets when the silly things were fastened and the dps just didnt see correctly, THATS the real world....

we had a dps man that was arrested with a local jp a few yrs back for both molesting and extorting sex from local females and the crooked dps guy said "i put my life on the line every day, they owed me something"....its that very line you stated, that just because they lay their lives down means they can do illegal things, from writing untrue seat belt tickets to extorting sex, both are crimes, nomatter how many bullets theyve dodged...

sorry, i just dont appreciate hearing that line ofthought, ESPECIALLY after having to deal with this fruithead saying the same thing you said....they are sworn to uphold the law, i dont give a flip how many bullets they dodge, if they dont wanna tell the truth about something as petty as a $90 ticket, theyll lie when it comes time to do worse....

if its too much to be honest, find another job, there are too many of them that are upright and DO care whether they truly saw the seatbelt fastened.....

Number one, my response was directed to the poster whom I quoted, which was not you. Number two, are you seriously comparing all State Troopers who do in fact "put their lives on the line daily" to one who was an obvious rotten apple? I'm just confirming because surely you realize that argument lacks any real strength. It would be like saying every president in the history of America was a womanizer because Bill Clinton was. See what I'm saying? Of course there are always going to be those who either abuse their power or fall victim to corruption - safe to say I'm sure those people exist even in whatever field of work you are in yourself.

You are obviously upset that you feel your son was treated unfairly. This is why we have the court system in America. He has the right to plead his case in front of an impartial judge or jury. Best of luck to him.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by LeeCoMom
Number one, my response was directed to the poster whom I quoted, which was not you. Number two, are you seriously comparing all State Troopers who do in fact "put their lives on the line daily" to one who was an obvious rotten apple? I'm just confirming because surely you realize that argument lacks any real strength. It would be like saying every president in the history of America was a womanizer because Bill Clinton was. See what I'm saying? Of course there are always going to be those who either abuse their power or fall victim to corruption - safe to say I'm sure those people exist even in whatever field of work you are in yourself.

You are obviously upset that you feel your son was treated unfairly. This is why we have the court system in America. He has the right to plead his case in front of an impartial judge or jury. Best of luck to him.

first my son wasnt arrested for anything, i was responding to the initial post....

second, your right, people like him might have wrong attitudes toward them, but i still hold the dps or any law enforcement (not picking on dps) should still bemore concerned with keeping the law and if its too much, leave the post....

third, i gave my props for the good ones, hell, it was some of the good ones that helped us sting this POS that was offending women in our county....

fourth, it isnt one bad apple, i found in our sting of this one that we busted there are many that break the law, it shouldbe looked down on people like u if its only one, ONE is too many with the power that they yield.....

fifth, even after busting this yo-yo, some women in this county STILL had the audacity to come tell us "you know how many good cops there are in this county?"....like the good ones should even be entering into the conversation with the bad ones....plenty of good teachers too, i dont hear anyone bringing them into the conversation of the few sex fiends.....i just dont understand hearing objections from the ones who stand to gain the most from illegal law enforcement....they sure arent gonna potentially molest ME......

and lastly no, im not upset about lying cops with seat belt laws, im upset about what stretching the truth to write a ticket turns into for some that lose track of their sense of decency and respect for the law...after this bozo was busted, a dear 77 yr old lady in our church stopped me and asked me if she heard right about him being stopped, i said yes and she cried rightt there in church in front of her daughter....she passed away about 3 weeks later and her daughter told me then he had molested her a year back on a traffic call and was so ashamed.....i wanted to visit him in huntsville....

writing bad tickets can grow into crap like that, they dont jump from choirboys to hardened criminals, they do it with that very attitude you stated, im sorry that it offends you but its a wrong attitude to have, and thank God some of us want them to have the better attitude and dont tolerate the "i put myself on the line" attitude, no matter if its received correctly by just the people it was meant to protect the most, cause that SURE aint uglies like most of the guys on this board,namely me....

[ccmom]

Originally posted by trojandad
first my son wasnt arrested for anything, i was responding to the initial post....



So why quote her if you were responding to the initial post? :doh: It certainly came off as if you were directing your post to her, so why not just own it?

[trojandad]

Originally posted by ccmom
So why quote her if you were responding to the initial post? :doh: It certainly came off as if you were directing your post to her, so why not just own it?

i was responding more to her "if they lay their lives on the line, thank them for writing a ticket you didnt earn" statement, i dont know any way to separate directions of statements any better than i did, i thought i made it clear but if not, my apologies....

ill thank and support the good ones (and do) with my money and my efforts, and ill put the sorry ones in jail every chance i get, and i wont get a big stick and stir them all together with a joint "thank you" irregardless of their actions, ill judge them just as id choose to be judged.....is all i meant

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by trojandad
i was responding more to her "if they lay their lives on the line, thank them for writing a ticket you didnt earn" statement, i dont know any way to separate directions of statements any better than i did, i thought i made it clear but if not, my apologies....



I guess I have really been here a long time....I knew exactly what you were saying!!

I am always quoting someone initially, but tend to stray away from the quote on down in my post!!

Don't worry...it happens to the best of us!!:p :p

[LeeCoMom]

Originally posted by trojandad
i was responding more to her "if they lay their lives on the line, thank them for writing a ticket you didnt earn" statement, i dont know any way to separate directions of statements any better than i did, i thought i made it clear but if not, my apologies....

ill thank and support the good ones (and do) with my money and my efforts, and ill put the sorry ones in jail every chance i get, and i wont get a big stick and stir them all together with a joint "thank you" irregardless of their actions, ill judge them just as id choose to be judged.....is all i meant

Where did I say to "thank them for a ticket you didn't earn???" I can see this is a sensitive subject, so we'll just have to agree to disagree and move on.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by LeeCoMom
Where did I say to "thank them for a ticket you didn't earn???" I can see this is a sensitive subject, so we'll just have to agree to disagree and move on.

the summary of your post to him was that because they do good at 3 am means take it easy on them when they stop you for undeserved stops....of course hes over the top in his reaction, thats a given, i just feel (IMO) there is an opposite reaction just as over the top and you seemed to state that one, that give them a break for undeserved stops and tickets because they risk their lives.....i think either extreme is unhealthy, it gives too much power and tends to creates guys like this idiot we stopped....

of course its a sensitive subject, i explained one small incident of it, after arrested the district courthouse had over 700 sexual complaints on this guy and the jp, on ages ranging from 17 to 79, God bless them, i think i stated my soft spot here and why i dont personally like philosophies about officers that begin to produce more of creepy ones that stop people for little or no reason...im sure i stepped on a toe as well and ill move on, too....

and your right, ranger mom, just not enough fingers for the words at my age anymore......lol

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Cam
I hope you're just messin' with me SintonFan! I didn't raise my kid to be a liar! He's as good a kid as they come. Even my 11 year old knows better than to BS anyone.
And just FYI, I support our law enforcment agencies. I've got one cousin who's a police officer in Sugarland, another cuz who's a Texas Ranger (no, not the baseball team), and a nephew who was a DPS trooper who passed away.

Not messing with you. Don't take this personal, Cam. This is NOT a reflection on you, but kids mess up(forget things, do stupid stuff, etc etc.... don't you remember being young?).
I DID mess up on one thing. I assumed your "kid" is a teenager. How old is he?

You have to look at it from what you posted:
My son has been ticketed twice in the last few months for not wearing his seatbelt.

Fine, maybe one DPS Officer was a little "motivated"(I doubt it)... BUT TWO OF THEM???! :eek:

Not hardly. Sit down with the boy and question him on it again. Be tough this time. His story might change. Then you know he might have "exaggerated the facts." :) ;)

No child is perfect, no matter hard we try to raise them to be.:doh:

[BwdLion73]

I've always been able to find a trooper when I don't need one.;)

[MJMbrahmas10]

But their is a difference in harassing and profiling college students for no reason just to meet a quota and taking drunk drivers off the road

[greendawg84]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Not messing with you. Don't take this personal, Cam. This is NOT a reflection on you, but kids mess up(forget things, do stupid stuff, etc etc.... don't you remember being young?).
I DID mess up on one thing. I assumed your "kid" is a teenager. How old is he?

You have to look at it from what you posted:

Fine, maybe one DPS Officer was a little "motivated"(I doubt it)... BUT TWO OF THEM???! :eek:

Not hardly. Sit down with the boy and question him on it again. Be tough this time. His story might change. Then you know he might have "exaggerated the facts." :) ;)

No child is perfect, no matter hard we try to raise them to be.:doh:

I will vouch for Cam Jr , that boy might have messed up but WOULD admit it . Funny thing is that my son got the same ticket in the same town on the same day . He was putting on his seat belt when he pulled out onto 29 . Guy was a jerk and said he is supposed to put it on when he started the truck. He was upset but like I told him welcome to the real world son . They both got the ticket on the day of graduation. Just saying that when they have these click it or ticket months , they might just take it a little too far.

[trojandad]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
I've always been able to find a trooper when I don't need one.;)


booyahhhhhhhhh.........

[Cam]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Not messing with you. Don't take this personal, Cam. This is NOT a reflection on you, but kids mess up(forget things, do stupid stuff, etc etc.... don't you remember being young?).
I DID mess up on one thing. I assumed your "kid" is a teenager. How old is he?

You have to look at it from what you posted:

Fine, maybe one DPS Officer was a little "motivated"(I doubt it)... BUT TWO OF THEM???! :eek:

Not hardly. Sit down with the boy and question him on it again. Be tough this time. His story might change. Then you know he might have "exaggerated the facts." :) ;)

No child is perfect, no matter hard we try to raise them to be.:doh:

He's 18. As for questioning, done that. He would fess up to it if he did wrong. And, he'll stand up for it when he knows he's right. So, we'll see what happens in court. All I know is he was about as mad as he gets on the football field when he got home...lol On another note, I know the first trooper and a bit of history on him. I would have to question his moral values in general. For example, I know he cheated on his wife and a few other things. How do I know this? I know his wife. She was truly devastated by this idiot...I guess troopers get horny too!!:D

[trojandad]

Originally posted by Cam
I guess troopers get horny too!!:D

hence, my story, huh?

and as for standing by your kid, i think i would too, especially if his history is trying to be a decent man....if i was wrong about my son or the cop, id choose the cop, hell get over it.....my luck my son would be telling the truth that time, i didnt support him, and it might throw a lifelong boulder between us....id back him and let circumstances prove him right or wrong, but thats just me....i also had a son that would rat on himself and did many times growing up, so i concur........

[rancher]

If you feel you are a victim of a DPS Trooper. Get his name and any other info. you can from him. Then file a complaint, this may make some of those morons think and realize they are not the judge and jury. Remember be polite to them so they cannot go off on you. Here is link to filing a complaint against them.


http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/OIG/complaint.htm

[Emerson1]

Originally posted by Cam
He's 18. As for questioning, done that. He would fess up to it if he did wrong. And, he'll stand up for it when he knows he's right. So, we'll see what happens in court. All I know is he was about as mad as he gets on the football field when he got home...lol On another note, I know the first trooper and a bit of history on him. I would have to question his moral values in general. For example, I know he cheated on his wife and a few other things. How do I know this? I know his wife. She was truly devastated by this idiot...I guess troopers get horny too!!:D

He should bring that up in his defense. Get the wife to testify and kill the guys reliability.

[nobogey72]

Originally posted by Emerson1
He should bring that up in his defense. Get the wife to testify and kill the guys reliability.

NO, NO, NO !!!!!! Because then my name might come up.:eek: :eek: :D

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by greendawg84
Add Bertram and Liberty Hill to the worst places to drive thru.

Bertram used to be the worst but LH has now taken the 1st prize
Yeah, but those are LH's finest, not so much DPS. :p ;)


I know of at least two different people who were stopped before the speed limit changed that were "warned" the speed limit would be changing "down the road". :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by nobogey72
NO, NO, NO !!!!!! Because then my name might come up.:eek: :eek: :D :spitlol: :fnypost:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Cam
He's 18. As for questioning, done that. He would fess up to it if he did wrong. And, he'll stand up for it when he knows he's right. So, we'll see what happens in court. All I know is he was about as mad as he gets on the football field when he got home...lol On another note, I know the first trooper and a bit of history on him. I would have to question his moral values in general. For example, I know he cheated on his wife and a few other things. How do I know this? I know his wife. She was truly devastated by this idiot...I guess troopers get horny too!!:D


Originally posted by greendawg84
I will vouch for Cam Jr , that boy might have messed up but WOULD admit it . Funny thing is that my son got the same ticket in the same town on the same day . He was putting on his seat belt when he pulled out onto 29 . Guy was a jerk and said he is supposed to put it on when he started the truck. He was upset but like I told him welcome to the real world son . They both got the ticket on the day of graduation. Just saying that when they have these click it or ticket months , they might just take it a little too far.

I'll take both your words for it. I was playing devil's advocate, so with two people here vouching for the kid, it sounds good to me. Just make sure your kid goes through the proper channels to make it right.:) That complaint link a few posts up might be a good place to start.:)