Every Public School Kid Is On Scholarship

[bolshavik]

Taken from that other site out there.........

Every kid in a public school is on a full SCHOLARSHIP. Some Academic and others maybe ATHLETIC.
Some schools even give their kids free lunch or breakfast or maybe get their parents a job at the school.

So, my question is why not let the Private schools in??

[Phil C]

Are you kidding?

School Taxes! :eek:

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by Phil C
Are you kidding?

School Taxes! :eek:

Yeah, but Private school parents pay those taxes too but then get chastised if a kid in a private school is on a scholly or pays reduced fees.

Public school kids, all of em pay nada. And some folks get free lunches and such. Just food for thought ipicked up on another site.

[Matthew328]

bolshavik=THE_BOBO

[Pick6]

Originally posted by Matthew328
BOBO

I agree

[Pick6]

Originally posted by bolshavik


Public school kids, all of em pay nada.

I paid over $1600 for my kids to attend public school last year. Do they not have school taxes where you live??

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by Matthew328
bolshavik=THE_BOBO =rancher

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Pick6
I paid over $1600 for my kids to attend public school last year. Do they not have school taxes where you live??




I'm pretty sure he was saying that parents of private school kids also pay those same taxes in addition to the extra tuition costs............. And a huge percentage of the kids in public schools come from parents who don't own property and therefore don't pay the taxes.

[raider red 2000]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I'm pretty sure he was saying that parents of private school kids also pay those same taxes in addition to the extra tuition costs............. And a huge percentage of the kids in public schools come from parents who don't own property and therefore don't pay the taxes.

if you rent a house....you pay taxes....they are built into the rent. landlords may be the ones writing the checks...but renters pay taxes.

[Ernest T Bass]

Obviously, someone has missed the point. Public education is a socialist idea, plain and simple. The US decided that every child is entitled to an education regardless of race, color, creed, or economic status. So, we set up our public school system and a way to pay for it. For some, that system isn't good enough. For them, there are alternatives known as private schools that must be paid for by the private citizen. I don't begrudge these schools wanting to operate as they see fit, nor do I begrudge the parents for seeking out what they feel are better options for their kids. But, for the same reason that we publically fund our roads and highway system regardless of use, we must fund our education system the same way.
If you choose to provide your child with a private education, you cannot opt out of helping to fund the public schools. If this becomes an option, public schools will cease to exist in any productive or stable condition. Therefore, we will have privatized education.

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by Matthew328
bolshavik=THE_BOBO

Did I not say I copied this from another site?? Wow, learn to read boys

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I'm pretty sure he was saying that parents of private school kids also pay those same taxes in addition to the extra tuition costs............. And a huge percentage of the kids in public schools come from parents who don't own property and therefore don't pay the taxes.

winner winner chicken dinner!!!!

And not all taxes are included in rent, heck some people are in a bind and rent their house below what their actual mortgage is because that is all the market will bare.

[cotulla]

stupid landlord.

must have been public school educated.

[Phil C]

Originally posted by Ernest T Bass
Obviously, someone has missed the point. Public education is a socialist idea, plain and simple. The US decided that every child is entitled to an education regardless of race, color, creed, or economic status. So, we set up our public school system and a way to pay for it. For some, that system isn't good enough. For them, there are alternatives known as private schools that must be paid for by the private citizen. I don't begrudge these schools wanting to operate as they see fit, nor do I begrudge the parents for seeking out what they feel are better options for their kids. But, for the same reason that we publically fund our roads and highway system regardless of use, we must fund our education system the same way.
If you choose to provide your child with a private education, you cannot opt out of helping to fund the public schools. If this becomes an option, public schools will cease to exist in any productive or stable condition. Therefore, we will have privatized education.

Actually it is a dictatorship from the kids' viewpoint. Of course we know it is a good dictatorship. :)

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by cotulla
stupid landlord.

must have been public school educated.

Uh, you noticed the real estate problem lately? Things like foreclosure's etc..

Sometimes eating 200 a month is better than eating 1500 a month and an empty house sitting there.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by bolshavik
Uh, you noticed the real estate problem lately? Things like foreclosure's etc..

Sometimes eating 200 a month is better than eating 1500 a month and an empty house sitting there. The whole point is that taxes are paid on every house, apt, condo, whatever. So nobody is missing paying, it just may not come from that person, but they are paying for it somehow

[bolshavik]

My point exactly..So, why would publics cry about some kids not paying full tuition at a private school??

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by bolshavik
My point exactly..So, why would publics cry about some kids not paying full tuition at a private school?? I could care less about what a person pays for their kid to go to a private school. What the issue here is if they take the money spent on a child to go to a public school and give it to them for a private school, how is the state gonna spend any less money. That is about as retarded of a proposal that I have ever seen!

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by bolshavik
My point exactly..So, why would publics cry about some kids not paying full tuition at a private school??
Just say no to vouchers. If you choose to send your child to private school, good for you. If you don't like the local public school, move. Privates will never play by the same rules as publics and there is no way to make them. They have their own competitive league, TAPPS. If you cheat in TAPPS like Cornerstone has in the past, you get booted into another, less competitive group (I can't remember what it is called). If the voucher system passes and private schools accept them, they should also have to institute TAKS and every other mandated BS program that is rammed down the throats of our public schools.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by bolshavik
winner winner chicken dinner!!!!

And not all taxes are included in rent, heck some people are in a bind and rent their house below what their actual mortgage is because that is all the market will bare.

I can attest to that. I couldn't rent my house for what I own on it monthly.
Property values have come down quite a bit and I don't think we have seen the bottom yet.

Thank goodness we live in Texas and haven't been as hurt as other states have been.:)

[LH Panther Mom]

Oh good grief!!!! If I didn't know better I'd think that you work/coach/teach/clean or something at a private school. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by bigwood33
If you cheat in TAPPS like Cornerstone has in the past, you get booted into another, less competitive group (I can't remember what it is called).
Free agent lol

[SintonFan]

I know I don't.

[raider red 2000]

Originally posted by bolshavik
My point exactly..So, why would public cry about some kids not paying full tuition at a private school??

If I drive my kid to school next year instead of riding the bus can i get a voucher to pay for my gas and oil changes. Maybe upgrade my truck to something fancy. That sound fair to yall???

Btw I pay taxes on 2 houses in two different counties.

[CenTexSports]

I don't see the difference between a parent wanting to use a voucher so his/her kid can go to a "better" school and a teacher working in different school district from where they live so their kid can go to a better school. I know there are lots of teachers that do this.

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Free agent lol
They are in a league but I just can't remember what it is called. Another example is Allen Academy in College Station. Former SMU and Baylor coach Dave Bliss is coaching basketball there and TAPPS has kicked them out for cheating, imagine that. They simply joined another private school league and won their state championship.

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Oh good grief!!!! If I didn't know better I'd think that you work/coach/teach/clean or something at a private school. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nope, work at a public school. Just like getting everybody riled up :)

[pancho villa]

If all this voucher crap passes I am going to retire in a few years from public school. Then I am going to get myself a coaching job at one of those privates and recruit all the good players from the public school using those vouchers. Then I am going to run the score up on everyone we play. My players will talk all kinds of mess and be awful sports. We will be the epitome of the way private school will become. And all you people out there that thought you wanted vouchers HAHA I can't wait for you to get what you wished for.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by bigwood33
They are in a league but I just can't remember what it is called. Another example is Allen Academy in College Station. Former SMU and Baylor coach Dave Bliss is coaching basketball there and TAPPS has kicked them out for cheating, imagine that. They simply joined another private school league and won their state championship.

TCAL------Allen Academy is it...don't know if Cornerstone is...Hagee what a joke.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by CenTexSports
I don't see the difference between a parent wanting to use a voucher so his/her kid can go to a "better" school and a teacher working in different school district from where they live so their kid can go to a better school. I know there are lots of teachers that do this.


oh so everyone should live within a certain distance of their work.....no more commuting?


what if there are no teaching jobs in the district you live in?

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by NastySlot
oh so everyone should live within a certain distance of their work.....no more commuting?


what if there are no teaching jobs in the district you live in?




Then work in another district but keep your kids in their home district just like ya'll are claiming everybody else should have to do. I don't think the point was about working elsewhere but rather taking your kids with you when you do...........

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by NastySlot
TCAL------Allen Academy is it...don't know if Cornerstone is...Hagee what a joke.

No one will allow Cornerstone in their league. They were kicked out of TAPPS(think they may be the only ones to ever get kicked out) and no one else will touch them. Very dirty program. They play an independent schedule every year.

[Farmersfan]

It seems to me that many of you are thinking with a "entitlement" mentality. Due to the fact that so many of the kids in our public school system are basically attending school as a welfare situation we cannot possible take individual student funding out of the mix to allow parents to choose where to send their kids because there would be nothing left to pay for the poor. Until we stop thinking that it's the wealthy's responsibility to take care of the poor we will never get past this. Even the top percentage of people don't pay into the tax system enough to cover the entire cost of their students education. If those same students stay in the public system then the extra cost of their education will come out of Government subsidies and funding. So why not allow people to withhold their "School Tax" amount and apply it to the much higher cost of private schools? The State Government would save a lot of money it seems to me.


Example:

10K a year cost per student for education
Average upper class family pays 4000K in property taxes in which only about 60% go to school taxes. 2400.00 to education expense for their child/children. That's 7600.00 that is being subsidized by the State (other taxes). Why not allow the parents to pay that 7600.00 extra to a private school instead of the State paying it to a public school? Am I missing something?

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Then work in another district but keep your kids in their home district just like ya'll are claiming everybody else should have to do. I don't think the point was about working elsewhere but rather taking your kids with you when you do...........

oh get you...I know of plenty of teachers that do work in other districts from where they live and are allowed to take their children with them to that distict....know a few that work in another and children attend the schools in the district they live.


so are you saying if my wife works for company in plano...and I live in allen i should teach in allen and my kids should go to school in allen.....but if allen doesn't have any teaching jobs but one of the smaller districts around allen does I shouldn't go to work at one....unless I move to that district?


I want to live and have my children attend school in the district I work in...but I have been lucky to be able to afford it and always lived in smaller towns and worked for smaller isds..........now if I lived in the Metroplex or other another urban area I don't know if that would be totally possible.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
It seems to me that many of you are thinking with a "entitlement" mentality. Due to the fact that so many of the kids in our public school system are basically attending school as a welfare situation we cannot possible take individual student funding out of the mix to allow parents to choose where to send their kids because there would be nothing left to pay for the poor. Until we stop thinking that it's the wealthy's responsibility to take care of the poor we will never get past this. Even the top percentage of people don't pay into the tax system enough to cover the entire cost of their students education. If those same students stay in the public system then the extra cost of their education will come out of Government subsidies and funding. So why not allow people to withhold their "School Tax" amount and apply it to the much higher cost of private schools? The State Government would save a lot of money it seems to me.


Example:

10K a year cost per student for education
Average upper class family pays 4000K in property taxes in which only about 60% go to school taxes. 2400.00 to education expense for their child/children. That's 7600.00 that is being subsidized by the State (other taxes). Why not allow the parents to pay that 7600.00 extra to a private school instead of the State paying it to a public school? Am I missing something?



here's one for you how about the money a district makes from taxes stays in that district....and is not sent to another.

the state should take care of that problem first.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Ernest T Bass
No one will allow Cornerstone in their league. They were kicked out of TAPPS(think they may be the only ones to ever get kicked out) and no one else will touch them. Very dirty program. They play an independent schedule every year.


yeah Hagee and his clan had a plan to form a basketball program on the lines of Oak Hill or a Findley prep........they were bringing kids from Mexico and other countries..........pounding local privates and smaller publics....and then the I guess people starting digging into the practices of getting and housing these kids...............Hagee?

[Blastoderm55]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
It seems to me that many of you are thinking with a "entitlement" mentality. Due to the fact that so many of the kids in our public school system are basically attending school as a welfare situation we cannot possible take individual student funding out of the mix to allow parents to choose where to send their kids because there would be nothing left to pay for the poor. Until we stop thinking that it's the wealthy's responsibility to take care of the poor we will never get past this. Even the top percentage of people don't pay into the tax system enough to cover the entire cost of their students education. If those same students stay in the public system then the extra cost of their education will come out of Government subsidies and funding. So why not allow people to withhold their "School Tax" amount and apply it to the much higher cost of private schools? The State Government would save a lot of money it seems to me.


Example:

10K a year cost per student for education
Average upper class family pays 4000K in property taxes in which only about 60% go to school taxes. 2400.00 to education expense for their child/children. That's 7600.00 that is being subsidized by the State (other taxes). Why not allow the parents to pay that 7600.00 extra to a private school instead of the State paying it to a public school? Am I missing something?

Isn't lottery money used to toward that $7,600? :D

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
It seems to me that many of you are thinking with a "entitlement" mentality. Due to the fact that so many of the kids in our public school system are basically attending school as a welfare situation we cannot possible take individual student funding out of the mix to allow parents to choose where to send their kids because there would be nothing left to pay for the poor. Until we stop thinking that it's the wealthy's responsibility to take care of the poor we will never get past this. Even the top percentage of people don't pay into the tax system enough to cover the entire cost of their students education. If those same students stay in the public system then the extra cost of their education will come out of Government subsidies and funding. So why not allow people to withhold their "School Tax" amount and apply it to the much higher cost of private schools? The State Government would save a lot of money it seems to me.


Example:

10K a year cost per student for education
Average upper class family pays 4000K in property taxes in which only about 60% go to school taxes. 2400.00 to education expense for their child/children. That's 7600.00 that is being subsidized by the State (other taxes). Why not allow the parents to pay that 7600.00 extra to a private school instead of the State paying it to a public school? Am I missing something?

That's b/c public education is a very socialist idea. So is our interstate highway system. They can't survive any other way. Under your way of thinking, why should anyone who doesn't have kids in school have to pay school taxes at all?
When the constitution says "promote the general welfare", it pretty much states that we won't be a purely capitalist nation.

[bolshavik]

Originally posted by NastySlot
yeah Hagee and his clan had a plan to form a basketball program on the lines of Oak Hill or a Findley prep........they were bringing kids from Mexico and other countries..........pounding local privates and smaller publics....and then the I guess people starting digging into the practices of getting and housing these kids...............Hagee?

Hagee...lol...He is always talking about the rapture and stuff..lol..Rapture..lol..THERE AINT NO SUCHA THANG AS RAPTURE

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by bolshavik
Hagee...lol...He is always talking about the rapture and stuff..lol..Rapture..lol..THERE AINT NO SUCHA THANG AS RAPTURE

sure there is it was a hit in the early 80's....sung by Blondie....introduced RAP if I remember right?

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by bolshavik
Hagee...lol...He is always talking about the rapture and stuff..lol..Rapture..lol..THERE AINT NO SUCHA THANG AS RAPTURE


speaking of Hagee...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/religion/article/Anti-Israel-protesters-crash-Hagee-s-sermon-1386127.php

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by Ernest T Bass
That's b/c public education is a very socialist idea. So is our interstate highway system. They can't survive any other way. Under your way of thinking, why should anyone who doesn't have kids in school have to pay school taxes at all?
When the constitution says "promote the general welfare", it pretty much states that we won't be a purely capitalist nation.

Did the same thing in football.

[scrub c]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
I could care less about what a person pays for their kid to go to a private school. What the issue here is if they take the money spent on a child to go to a public school and give it to them for a private school, how is the state gonna spend any less money. That is about as retarded of a proposal that I have ever seen!

lol