Celina vs. Lovejoy updates

[charlesrixey]

20 minutes to kickoff

i will post updates here (as i have done for the last five years lol) so who ever reads this doesnt have to scroll through all the scores to see whats going on in this big matchup

[charlesrixey]

Bobcats win the toss and elect to receive

1st and 10 on the 20

Mendoza catches on first play for 17 yards from Stephenson

1st and 10 on the 37

Romero runs for 2

2nd and 8

incomplete pass

3rd and 8

incomplete pass

4th and 8

punt forthcoming

[charlesrixey]

Bilderback runs on a fake punt down to the Lovejoy 36

wow

Simmons runs for 3 yards

2nd and 7, 33

Simmons runs again for 1

3rd and 6

Simmons runs for -3

4th and 9 on the 35

[charlesrixey]

1st and 10 lovejoy at their own 35 after an incomplete pass

feed is gone now

[charlesrixey]

Lovejoy ran down to the Celina 32

3rd and 14 there for Lovejoy

[Emerson1]

Can you post scores in big bold font?

[charlesrixey]

Lusby sacked

4th and about 23

punt maybe coming?

[charlesrixey]

Celina

1st and 10 on their own 26

Romero runs for no gain

2nd and 10

6:00 in the first qaurter

Mendoza runs to the 38 and they say there is a fumble

1st and 10 lovejoy

then Martin fumbles on the next play, Celina recovers

1st and 10 Celina on the LL 47

[charlesrixey]

Mendoza runs down to the 36

1st and 10 Celina

incomplete pass on the flag

2nd and 22 on the LL 48

[charlesrixey]

3rd and 22 after some strange penalties

4th and 18 on the LL 44

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
3rd and 22 after some strange penalties

4th and 18 on the LL 44

LL takes over on their 34

pass for 2 yards

2nd and 8 on the 36

incomplete pass

3rd and 8

incomplete pass

4th and 8 LL punting

2:31 in the 1st q

[alaskacat]

where is the feed located?
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[charlesrixey]

Bilderback takes the punt to the 23

1st and 5 on the 28

Mendoza runs for 4

2nd and 1

Simmons runs for no gain

3rd and inches

Romero gets to the 41

1st and 10 Celina

Mendoza runs for 14

1st and 10 on the LL 45

2nd and 4 on the 39

Celina 0, Lovejoy 0

END OF THE 1ST QUARTER

[charlesrixey]

Simmons runs for -3

Mendoza runs down to the 20

1st and 10 for Celina on the 19

uh they should keep handing off to Mendoza lol

offsides on the defense

1st and 5 on the 14

Romero gets to the 11

2nd and 2

Romero to the 6

1st and goal Celina

Romero runs down to the 3 but fumble called

lovejoy ball

[turbostud]

WOW sounds like a great game that nobody wants to win.

[charlesrixey]

LL fumbles again on the first play

WOW

Celina ball

1st and 10 on the 12

[charlesrixey]

2nd and 10 after a run for no gain

sack at the 20

3rd and 18

run for 1 yard

FG forthcoming

FG no good

[charlesrixey]

1st and 5 on their 25 for LL

offsides on lovejoy

1st and 10 for LL

Martin runs for 2 yards

2nd and 8 on the 22

loss on a run

3rd and 10

4th down and 12 punt coming

[charlesrixey]

4:02 left in the half

Celina takes over

1st and 10 on their 39

Mendoza runs for 2

2nd and 8

run of 1

3rd and 7

sacked

4th down and 13

1st and 10 on their 35 for LL

[charlesrixey]

Lovejoy 3, Celina 0

halftime

[IHStangFan]

WOW...what a battle so far!! :clap:

[gobbler grad]

Originally posted by charlesrixey


Lovejoy 3, Celina 0

halftime


interesting game here...ought to be a great 2nd half...

[orange machine]

We have moved the ball up and down on them, but we can't hang on to the ball crazy. I think the 2nd half will be alot different.

[charlesrixey]

halftime over

Celina will kick

touchback

got some stuff to do so my updates wont be complete play by play

1st and 10 on the 46 for LL

[charlesrixey]

4th and 11 for LL

Celina takes over

Romero runs for 5

2nd and 5

[charlesrixey]

Romero runs again

1st and 10 for Celina

havent heard the yardline

1st and 5 on the ?

[charlesrixey]

Mendoza runs to the 46

1st and 10 Celina

[charlesrixey]

Romero runs for 2

2nd and 8 on the 48

incomplete pass

3rd and 8

false start

3rd and 13

[charlesrixey]

throw for 45 yards on 3rd and 13

1st and 10 on the LL 18

Garcia runs to the 15

[charlesrixey]

Lovejoy holds
1st and 10 on the 16

[charlesrixey]

Celina causes a fumble on 3rd

Celina ball at the LL 21

1st and 10

[charlesrixey]

Mendoza runs for 5

2nd and 5

Mendoza runs to the 8

1st and goal

[charlesrixey]

Simmons runs to the 2

2nd and goal

3rd and goal on the 3

incomplete pass

4th down

pass dropped

[charlesrixey]

Lovejoy has the ball on their 3

1:58 in the 3rd quarter

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Lovejoy has the ball on their 3

1:58 in the 3rd quarter wth? no fg kicker?

[charlesrixey]

Celina holds again on 4th down

Celina calls a timeout

offsides on Celina

1st down

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Celina holds again on 4th down

Celina calls a timeout wth? LL has no punter? crazy game.

[bowleghorses]

prosper should have played celina tonight...they dont want to score.:D

[charlesrixey]

crazy game

end of the 3rd quarter

Lovejoy 3, Celina 0

[DDBooger]

:doh:

[charlesrixey]

another LL fumble

Celina ball

1st and 10 Celina at the LL 35

[charlesrixey]

Smmons runs to the 29

2nd and 4

Garcia dropped for -2

3rd and 6

incomplete pass

4th and 6

incomplete pass

Lovejoy ball at the 31

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
another LL fumble

Celina ball

1st and 10 Celina at the LL 35 WOW!! :eek:

[91 lion]

wow!
Originally posted by charlesrixey
Smmons runs to the 29

2nd and 4

Garcia dropped for -2

3rd and 6

incomplete pass

4th and 6

incomplete pass

Lovejoy ball at the 31

[bowleghorses]

Celina will be sick if they lose this game...I think I will be sick for them.

[charlesrixey]

3rd and 1

Bobcats stop again!

4th and 2

fake punt down to the Celina 40

[Saggy Aggie]

Does either team have an offense? :doh: :doh:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by DDBooger
wth? LL has no punter? crazy game.
May not, but they apparently have a kicker. lol

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Saggy Aggie
Does either team have an offense? :doh: :doh:

Yeah, we've fimbled 4 times!:mad:

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
May not, but they apparently have a kicker. lol :D

[charlesrixey]

3rd and 9

6:52 in the game

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
3rd and 9

6:52 in the game This game is flying.

[charlesrixey]

1st and 10 on the 14

6:26 left

[charlesrixey]

2nd and goal on the 4

[orange machine]

Our d is wore out they have played great all night, but the offense couldn't score.

[charlesrixey]

LL scores up the middle

Lovejoy 10, Celina 0

[orange machine]

LJ is a good team looks like have come together. The Celina offense in the 2nd half hasn't shown up.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by orange machine
LJ is a good team looks like have come together. The Celina offense in the 2nd half hasn't shown up.

Were they there in the 1st half??:thinking:

[eagles_victory]

Im sure Kenny Chesney will be disappointed.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
LL scores up the middle

Lovejoy 10, Celina 0

Hi Folks,
Lovejoy does have a defense contributing to Celina's offensive problems!;)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Im sure Kenny Chesney will be disappointed. LOL coooold Bloooded.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by DDBooger
LOL coooold Bloooded. 'Boys of Fall' fall to Lovejoy

Im kidding of course I respect Celina a lot I figured they would be playing in Cowboys Stadium for certain after last week.

[Aesculus gilmus]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Im sure Kenny Chesney will be disappointed.

As will Craig James. It just hasn't been Craig's year.

Somewhere in the Florida Keys, though, there is a Pirate who is shedding crocodile tears over the plight of James' Bobcats and Tuberville's Red Raiders.

[CelinaCatFan]

Sure. Get your cheap shots in now. Classy...

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by CelinaCatFan
Sure. Get your cheap shots in now. Classy... I was jk dont get so upset. You come on here declaring yourselves unbeatable after beating Sanger... then this. Some backlash will follow.

[5wide]

was not impressed with celina at all! They "looked" good but thats about it! No offense at all!

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by 5wide
was not impressed with celina at all! They "looked" good but thats about it! No offense at all! Take it back!:mad:

;) ...Certainly surprised a lot of people. Wonder if the SOS really showed today.

[CelinaCatFan]

I have not declared anything. I challenge you to find something to defend that statement.

[3afan]

way to go Lovejoy !!!!!!!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by CelinaCatFan
Sure. Get your cheap shots in now. Classy...

Oh come on!! That wasn't a "cheap shot!!"

You might not have declared anything, but others did. He didn't quote you when he said that, so it wasn't directed at you!!

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by 5wide
was not impressed with celina at all! They "looked" good but thats about it! No offense at all!

Celina has a heck of a team, they had a fantastic year!

My Lovejoy Leopards have a heck of a defense!! It's my Leopards defense
that won the game. You can't say Celina had no offense. They averaged
50/pts per game. My Leopards pulled of a fantastic defensive effort!
Two of the guys we lost were defensive starters, the guys came together and did a fantastic job!:clap: :clap: ;)

[orange machine]

LJ is a good no doubt I'm trying my best not to take anything away from them, but the Celina O line just got blown up it's hard to believe cause that was Celina's strong point this year. Celina moved the ball, but had to work way to hard then when they got inside the red zone they fell apart. Anyways great job LJ y'all deserve it after all y'all have had to go through.

[CelinaCatFan]

Congrats Charlie! The Leopards D did very well. Best of luck the rest of the way!

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Charlie47
Celina has a heck of a team, they had a fantastic year!

My Lovejoy Leopards have a heck of a defense!! It's my Leopards defense
that won the game. You can't say Celina had no offense. They averaged
50/pts per game. My Leopards pulled of a fantastic defensive effort!
Two of the guys we lost were defensive starters, the guys came together and did a fantastic job!:clap: :clap: ;) I forgot you all had those guys out...Pretty impressive. Congrats to your guys Charlie.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by CelinaCatFan
Congrats Charlie! The Leopards D did very well. Best of luck the rest of the way!

Thank-you CelinaCatFan! Your OK!:)

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by orange machine
LJ is a good no doubt I'm trying my best not to take anything away from them, but the Celina O line just got blown up it's hard to believe cause that was Celina's strong point this year. Celina moved the ball, but had to work way to hard then when they got inside the red zone they fell apart. Anyways great job LJ y'all deserve it after all y'all have had to go through.

I had no dog in this fight and couldn't have cared less who won. But....I have to admit that I am so proud of Lovejoy for regrouping like they did and playing like they are. That says a lot for their entire program.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by DDBooger
I forgot you all had those guys out...Pretty impressive. Congrats to your guys Charlie.

I appreciate you!;)

[#1 TEXAN]

:hand: Celina yall wanted to play brownwood????:confused: :confused:

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Oh come on!! That wasn't a "cheap shot!!"

You might not have declared anything, but others did. He didn't quote you when he said that, so it wasn't directed at you!! You are correct RM. I didn't say you personally I was speaking of Celina fans in general. Celina fans all run together I cant keep track of you all certainly not taking anything away from the kids of Celina great year. But some of you guys posters got well ahead of yourselves.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I had no dog in this fight and couldn't have cared less who won. But....I have to admit that I am so proud of Lovejoy for regrouping like they did and playing like they are. That says a lot for their entire program.

Thank-you so much Ranger Mom!:)

[Tin Cup]

I picked lovejoy to win it all :D

[Pawdaddy]

I assume 10-0 is a final. None of you bloviaters have said so.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
I picked lovejoy to win it all :D

That's right, but you gave up on us!;)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
I assume 10-0 is a final. None of you bloviaters have said so.

Lovejoy 17-0:)

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Charlie47
Lovejoy 17-0:) Yall scored again? wow. TXB said you guys may be better off with this backup QB.

[5wide]

Originally posted by Charlie47
Celina has a heck of a team, they had a fantastic year!

My Lovejoy Leopards have a heck of a defense!! It's my Leopards defense
that won the game. You can't say Celina had no offense. They averaged
50/pts per game. My Leopards pulled of a fantastic defensive effort!
Two of the guys we lost were defensive starters, the guys came together and did a fantastic job!:clap: :clap: ;)

I agree with everything you've said...but a dominating team has to have more explosiveness on offense than celina did. Bonehead and I mean BONEHEAD calls from celina killed them and gave them no chance for momentum! Kick a field goal!!!

[Charlie47]

He's really come around. I wish you could have seen us with both of 'em
in the same backfield. That's how we came up with so many points!

What people overlook is all the shutouts! Great defense!;)

[5wide]

yes that defense was awesome!!

[Tin Cup]

I'm honestly shocked! I have no doubts Kenny Chesney Aka celina was darn good. Huge win for LL. Wow

[CHS_89]

Congrats Charlie! And yes I agree, it's good to see Lovejoy has re-grouped after what they have been through. Nice game!

[Bruce]

Charlie I want to wish LJ the best for the rest of the season, there a good team. Our Bobcats were off tonight big time , and that's not taking any thing away from LJ. It just wasn't meant for the Bobcats to win,that' very simple, that's the way it goes sometimes. Like I said, I wish LJ the best. Thanks!

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by CHS_89
Congrats Charlie! And yes I agree, it's good to see Lovejoy has re-grouped after what they have been through. Nice game!

Thank-you! Your very gracious! You guys had a great year! I hope
all the Celina fans will be for us now! ;)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Bruce
Charlie I want to wish LJ the best for the rest of season, they are good team. Our Bobcats were off tonight big time , and that's not taking any thing away from LJ. It just wasn't meant for the Bobcats to win,that' very simple, that's the way it goes sometimes. Like I said, I wish LJ the best. Thanks!

Thanks Bruce, I appreciate you!:)

[Tin Cup]

I hear it was Lovejoys passion that pulled them through :eek:

[orange machine]

Originally posted by Charlie47
Thank-you! Your very gracious! You guys had a great year! I hope
all the Celina fans will be for us now! ;)
I'm not trying to deminish what the Celina players did this year, but I feel they would tell you the same this year was not a good year overall after tonight. I honestly feel like Celina is much better then the way they played on offense tonight. Either way the better team finds away to win Celina didn't do that tonight LJ did.

[cowboyandchrist]

Originally posted by Charlie47
Thank-you! Your very gracious! You guys had a great year! I hope
all the Celina fans will be for us now! ;)
To win a big game after loosing three starters shows how much the players and coaches believe in each other. You beat one of the best programs in Texas. Win or loose Celina has to be admired for producing good football teams year in and year out.
Good luck LL until you run into Chapell Hill.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
I hear it was Lovejoys passion that pulled them through :eek:

They have a good dose of passion!!;)

[bobcat1]

I am in line for more crow. I have been crapping feathers for over an hour now. :speech: I tip my hat to a great game tonight by Lovejoy Leopards. Their defense was awesome. Their game plan was perfect. The 4th down fake punt was a heck of a call that probably won them the game. I think it was still 3-0 at that point. I saw it coming when 11 was the upback on the punt.

If I had to pick a player to give the game ball to it would #8 for Lovejoy. He pinned his ears back and was coming all night long and I think we might have blocked him 3 times. #24, 23, 7 and 11 were great also on offense.

We lost 3 fumbles and they lost 4. The first 2 we lost were critical in the redzone. We dropped a TD pass on 4th and goal in the endzone wide open. We had our chances to score but execution was not up to par tonight. Our defense played good enough to win the game had we executed on offense. Their defense had a lot to do with that. This was the worst time for us to have an off night. That in no means is meant to take anything away from Lovejoy. They were up and Celina was not. Simple as that.

In talking to Grant after the game, he said it best when he said Lovejoy set back and read all the press clippings and stewed on them. Could be Celina read too many of them too. :doh:

Congrats to Lovejoy and I hope they win it all! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Congrats to the Celina boys for a great season. Maybe next year........

[Saggy Aggie]

LJ won without their normal QB? :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Saggy Aggie
LJ won without their normal QB? :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: Amazing isn't it?

[91 lion]

Great Win Lovejoy!!!

and

Super Season Celina!!!
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Tin Cup]

It can happen to any team any given night. I know Celina is disappointed tonight but these kids and coaches will rebound and you can bet they will be back next year. Bigger and oranger than ever

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I am in line for more crow. I have been crapping feathers for over an hour now. :speech: I tip my hat to a great game tonight by Lovejoy Leopards. Their defense was awesome. Their game plan was perfect. The 4th down fake punt was a heck of a call that probably won them the game. I think it was still 3-0 at that point. I saw it coming when 11 was the upback on the punt.

If I had to pick a player to give the game ball to it would #8 for Lovejoy. He pinned his ears back and was coming all night long and I think we might have blocked him 3 times. #24, 23, 7 and 11 were great also on offense.

We lost 3 fumbles and they lost 4. The first 2 we lost were critical in the redzone. We dropped a TD pass on 4th and goal in the endzone wide open. We had our chances to score but execution was not up to par tonight. Our defense played good enough to win the game had we executed on offense. Their defense had a lot to do with that. This was the worst time for us to have an off night. That in no means is meant to take anything away from Lovejoy. They were up and Celina was not. Simple as that.

In talking to Grant after the game, he said it best when he said Lovejoy set back and read all the press clippings and stewed on them. Could be Celina read too many of them too. :doh:

Congrats to Lovejoy and I hope they win it all! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Congrats to the Celina boys for a great season. Maybe next year........

I actually called that 4th down initially as a touchdown and then realized he dropped it. He was all alone. Truly, an incredible play.

Congratulations to Celina. They played a great game and had a great season! Also, a great game for the Lovejoy defense. I know Celina's offense was off, but give the Lovejoy D credit. That is their 4th shutout of the year and they lead the area in scoring defense at just about 10 points per game.

[orange machine]

I still just can't believe we couldn't put the ball in the endzone. This game was so strange Celina never makes mistakes like they did tonight on offense. All the fumbles missed blocking assignments, qb getting killed getting to the red zone the falling apart it was just crazy. I told a buddy in the 3rd qt that it didn't seem like it was meant for Celina to win.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by orange machine
I still just can't believe we couldn't put the ball in the endzone. This game was so strange Celina never makes mistakes like they did tonight on offense. All the fumbles missed blocking assignments, qb getting killed getting to the red zone the falling apart it was just crazy. I told a buddy in the 3rd qt that it didn't seem like it was meant for Celina to win. I know, but the sun comes up tomorrow and next year is around the corner. Opportunity lost...... Go Leopards! On to State!

[Bosqueville]

Great season bobcats! I know how much it hurts to lose in the playoffs and you know y'all will be back next year for sure!!

[Pendragon13]

Congrats to LL! I tried to tell everyone that Lovejoy was going to be a team to be reckoned with this year...apparently poll voters did as well since they were pre-season #1. I have never seen two more evenly matched teams than Abilene Wylie vs Lovejoy in the 09 semi-finals....and the game was narrowly won with a herculean effort by Wylie at the end. Knowing that most of those guys are back this year for another round.....Division 1 teams need to get themselves ready.;)

Congrats to Celina for a great season...just like Wylie you guys will always be back for more each year.

[alaskacat]

Originally posted by #1 TEXAN
:hand: Celina yall wanted to play brownwood????:confused: :confused:

Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Saggy Aggie
LJ won without their normal QB? :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Sure did along with 2 defensive starters, 1 a defensive back and a
defensive end. The other 2 also play, WR and TE.:)

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.

I am sorry, but there is just as many Celina posters who show the same "class" that your bashing...YOU personally might not be, but to act all celina fans are just full of so much class IMO is crazy

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Congrats to LL! I tried to tell everyone that Lovejoy was going to be a team to be reckoned with this year...apparently poll voters did as well since they were pre-season #1. I have never seen two more evenly matched teams than Abilene Wylie vs Lovejoy in the 09 semi-finals....and the game was narrowly won with a herculean effort by Wylie at the end. Knowing that most of those guys are back this year for another round.....Division 1 teams need to get themselves ready.;)

Congrats to Celina for a great season...just like Wylie you guys will always be back for more each year.

You're absolutely right, their motto is "Finish It"! They are going to try real hard. This was the 5th shutout that the defensive team has done
this season.:clap: ;)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I am in line for more crow. I have been crapping feathers for over an hour now. :speech: I tip my hat to a great game tonight by Lovejoy Leopards. Their defense was awesome. Their game plan was perfect. The 4th down fake punt was a heck of a call that probably won them the game. I think it was still 3-0 at that point. I saw it coming when 11 was the upback on the punt.

If I had to pick a player to give the game ball to it would #8 for Lovejoy. He pinned his ears back and was coming all night long and I think we might have blocked him 3 times. #24, 23, 7 and 11 were great also on offense.

We lost 3 fumbles and they lost 4. The first 2 we lost were critical in the redzone. We dropped a TD pass on 4th and goal in the endzone wide open. We had our chances to score but execution was not up to par tonight. Our defense played good enough to win the game had we executed on offense. Their defense had a lot to do with that. This was the worst time for us to have an off night. That in no means is meant to take anything away from Lovejoy. They were up and Celina was not. Simple as that.

In talking to Grant after the game, he said it best when he said Lovejoy set back and read all the press clippings and stewed on them. Could be Celina read too many of them too. :doh:

Congrats to Lovejoy and I hope they win it all! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Congrats to the Celina boys for a great season. Maybe next year........

Thanks Bobcat1, ya'll had a great season and played a good game tonight. I hope Lovejoy can count on it friends from Celina to cheer us along the way!!

[Deuce]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.

WOW!:eek:

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.


Calm down goofball! We will find in in 4 weeks if either Brownwood or Carthage can win it all. Brownwood has not yet but neither has your precious Carthage. As for sitting silently, that's only because you are on a computer, you have written plenty about how good you guys are and how bad we suck... dude, go buy a mirror.

I am sorry to the Bport fans for what a coulpe of our fans appeared to do. I hate it when a couple of jerks make a whole town look bad like these people did (oh and like alaskacas is making his team look like fools) Hopefully somebodies momma beat their kids ass last night after the game and taught them some respect.

Back to Celina (why I came to this thread) I will admit I am thrilled that they lost. I dont hate Celina, I will admit that I am jealous that they have passed us in Number of won State Championships. Now they are stuck at 7 1/2 for this year and it is our chance to pass them up. I have faith in my Lions that they will get that done this year. Thank you Lovejoy for knocking off a very talented Celina team.

Go Lions!

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
Calm down goofball! We will find in in 4 weeks if either Brownwood or Carthage can win it all. Brownwood has not yet but neither has your precious Carthage. As for sitting silently, that's only because you are on a computer, you have written plenty about how good you guys are and how bad we suck... dude, go buy a mirror.

I am sorry to the Bport fans for what a coulpe of our fans appeared to do. I hate it when a couple of jerks make a whole town look bad like these people did (oh and like alaskacas is making his team look like fools) Hopefully somebodies momma beat their kids ass last night after the game and taught them some respect.

Back to Celina (why I came to this thread) I will admit I am thrilled that they lost. I dont hate Celina, I will admit that I am jealous that they have passed us in Number of won State Championships. Now they are stuck at 7 1/2 for this year and it is our chance to pass them up. I have faith in my Lions that they will get that done this year. Thank you Lovejoy for knocking off a very talented Celina team.

Go Lions!

[Bosqueville]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.
A complete drama queen!

O

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by gatordaze


I am glad they don't let you bet on HS football. I would have gone all in on holding LJ to 17 really 10 if you take away the cheap one of the muffed snap at the end.

I really thought that the Oline struggled with the LJ front 7. LJ LB play was awesome. Number 41 is a stud.

I have heavy heart for our Seniors and their fathers. I saw reflected in their fathers faces my future in two more years. I was fortunate in a way that I played on an average team and my lasst HS game was forecast years in advance. In towns like Celina and Lovejoy the end can come as fast as springtime tornado and leave you just as devistated.

Best of luck Leopards and thanks Bobcats for your contribution to the collective Celina legacy!

[RPF2666]

Lovejoy played a heck of a defensive game.

Good luck next week, and on...

Bobcats, we are proud of you...

[ctown]

Originally posted by Charlie47
You're absolutely right, their motto is "Finish It"! They are going to try real hard. This was the 5th shutout that the defensive team has done
this season.:clap: ;)

Celina's motto in 07 was Finish It. They had just lost in 06 to a great Liberty Hill team. They did finish it by winning state that year. LL is obviously on a mission. Next week will tell whether or not it was an emotional win that drains the tanks or if LL can't be denied. I am in a bit of shock at how poorly Celina played but that is exactly what great teams do to other teams. Sure, we can talk about mistakes Celina made or bad choices but in the end we have seen our guys do that to countless other teams and have to recognize when it is done to us. Good luck to LL on the rest of the season.

[sandbagger]

Originally posted by ctown
Celina's motto in 07 was Finish It. They had just lost in 06 to a great Liberty Hill team. They did finish it by winning state that year. LL is obviously on a mission. Next week will tell whether or not it was an emotional win that drains the tanks or if LL can't be denied. I am in a bit of shock at how poorly Celina played but that is exactly what great teams do to other teams. Sure, we can talk about mistakes Celina made or bad choices but in the end we have seen our guys do that to countless other teams and have to recognize when it is done to us. Good luck to LL on the rest of the season. Celinas new motto. wHEN THE TOUGH GETS GOING, DONT PLAY THE TOUGH

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by Saggy Aggie
LJ won without their normal QB? :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Means and Lusby were both used throughout the year

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.

Dude!! You have been here long enough to know that Celina has had plenty of "Rockets" over the years!! And you have been here long enough to know that this is the nature of this board....you run your mouth and lose, you are gonna get it thrown back in your face.

Just ask Rocket....he came in here 3 years ago guns (and mouth) a'blazin and when they went 3-7, I had an entire page of "quoted posts" from him to throw back at him. He took it all in stride, and when I FINALLY got him to admit that dropping down to 3A wasn't the cakewalk he thought it was gonna be, I was satisfied!:p

To call the whole of Brownwood "classless thugs" for some bonehead thing a couple of "fans" did is....well classless itself, IMO!

But again...what do I know!! I'm just a mom!

:confused:

[RPF2666]

Sanbagger's new motto...

Keep throwing stones into the dark, eventually you might hit something...

We will be back next year, with one goal in mind. Like the odds would predict, we may likely come up short. At which point idiots like you will have another day in the sun...

Then the next year we will be back... It's what we do...

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I know, but the sun comes up tomorrow and next year is around the corner. Opportunity lost...... Go Leopards! On to State!

You're a classy person Bobcat1. Congrats to your Bobcats on a good season. :clap:

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket.

If you really are up in Alaska, you need to go somewhere warm and thaw out your brain. The actions of a couple of thugs doesn't represent the fan base of Brownwood, just like one loudmouth without a life doesn't make me like the great state of Alaska any less.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by alaskacat
Either one of these teams is most likely better than Brownwood, and Carthage definately is, so run your mouth for a couple more weeks then the crow pile will await you.

I have sat silently all year and listened to you guys run your mouth, to the point of being obnoxious. Good programs win with humbleness. Look at how that lady was treated when her son was hurt, you at Brownwood are classless, thugs. Just like Miami NW judging by the likes of you and rocket. I think it best you just shut the hell up. Have some class. Some peoples kids.:dispntd:

[WildTexan972]

They were looking too far ahead....the boys on the team for the most part had figured Sealy as their toughest competition for the trophy, and they lost in the 1st round....to a monster...

I told my son that Region2 was as tough as any they should be concerned with since only 1 from Region 1 and 1 from Regions3/4 would get that far.....he and his friends did not seem to consider the Region2 schedule as formidable....they were proven wrong...

I think they figured since they had pretty much had their way in the scrimmages that this would be like the Sanger game but it was not....

[ctown]

Originally posted by WildTexan972
They were looking too far ahead....the boys on the team for the most part had figured Sealy as their toughest competition for the trophy, and they lost in the 1st round....to a monster...

I told my son that Region2 was as tough as any they should be concerned with since only 1 from Region 1 and 1 from Regions3/4 would get that far.....he and his friends did not seem to consider the Region2 schedule as formidable....they were proven wrong...

I think they figured since they had pretty much had their way in the scrimmages that this would be like the Sanger game but it was not....

Not sure what group of kids you talked to but the ones I had spoken to seemed all very serious about Lovejoy. If there were any not taking LJ seriously, I am sure they feel guilty about it today. I will say it sure seemed like the opposing coaches had us scouted very well. Hard to scout a team with a completely different look like LJ had from earlier in the year.

[ssgmp5150]

This post is not intended to reflect upon the many Celina faithful that have much class and respect for their opponent. However, it is intended f the FEW Celina posters that posted on here with blatant disregard to their opponent and boasted of winning by 40 plus points. These guys berated me and were having fun with my post when I said I thought Lovejoy would win in a close game.

Well boys......The Boys of Fall fell and they fell hard! Lovejoy had a little Passion and Glory too! They have a very storied history for a brand new high school! You guys got caught looking past them last night!

This is to all the posters this morning that are saying Celina just didn't show up and they could not get their offense going, and bad play calling ,etc. Why don't you guys just admit it. Lovejoy's defense played lights out last night! They were better than you were! Take four turnovers aways from Lovejoy and a ton of penalties and Lovejoy would have beaten you guys 28 to 0 last night!

I don't have a dog in this fight, other than just a fan of good high school football. The game I saw last night was complete domination by Lovejoy! I told you they had a kicker that was money! You guys thought I was crazy.....

To the Lovejoy faithful, congrats on a great win last night. Good luck on the remainder of your season and take it all the way this year! You guys showed tremendous heart by coming together as a team like you did, while having to face adversity because of the selfishness of a few. To the guys who stepped up in the absence of several of your starters, congratulations. I would like to nominate # 41 from your team as the player of the game. He was all over the field making tackles out in space on his own and sacking the quarterback and was just a beast on defense last night. Can anyone tell me what his name is? Good luck on the remainder of your season!

[MoveInDad]

Celina QB goes 4-22 for 44 yds passing (5-23 for 83 overall), THAT is the story of the game in my opinion...others mentioned 'bonehead' calls (not going for 3pts while in the red zone), however I didn't see it that way this year. Yes, he was pressured, but I, like other Celina fans I'm sure, were always conscience that our 'balanced' O was always 1 bad night by an average QB, away from this result. I hesitate to point out any individual, or position, as others obviously are because it hasn't been mentioned, but anybody at the game will recall the misfire to an all alone #21 in the end zone from 5 yds, the TD 'catch' to #21 that wasn't given, was a bad throw as well from only the 5yd line. Also, the play where #1 was left uncovered on the right, standing out there by himself with fans screaming for the QB to look... who does not and it ends up a busted play. There was a dropped ball or two, but for the most part receivers didn't have an opportunity to catch the ball as it was flying over the heads.
Celina needed their QB to help them win this game, to be a leader and step up,in the face of a stiff run defense, and execute the passing game, and he folded... it just wasn't in his DNA.
While some will point out that Celina still had more yards and more 1st downs etc, against a solid team like LJ, you can't not execute that many plays and expect to be in the game at the end of 4 quarters.
D held LJ to 200 yds total offense and 3pts until 4 mins left in the game... you can't ask them to do much more than that against a good team
LJ a much better team than Kennedale was last year in the 2nd round, but very eerily the same pattern on offense - turnovers and a very bad night at the QB position - lead to a total of 6pts from those 2 games. It's a team game being played by kids, so I may be in bad form for discussing a poor performance by an individual - perhaps protocol is to only praise good ones - I'm sure I'm about to find out.
Congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all the teams left in the hunt.
cheers!

[ssgmp5150]

Another note from the game....Coach Ford was outcoached last night ten fold by the Lovejoy coaching staff. To do that, you gotta get up early in the morning, because that doesn't happen very often! So, congrats to the Lovejoy coaching staff! The hard count on 4th down in my opinion sealed the game combined with the fake punt. Celina prematurely pulled their fake punt out of their back of tricks way to early in the ball game. Lovejoy coaching staff was two steps ahead of them all night long last night! Congrats to the Leopards!

[MoveInDad]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
This post is not intended to reflect upon the many Celina faithful that have much class and respect for their opponent. However, it is intended f the FEW Celina posters that posted on here with blatant disregard to their opponent and boasted of winning by 40 plus points. These guys berated me and were having fun with my post when I said I thought Lovejoy would win in a close game.

This is to all the posters this morning that are saying Celina just didn't show up and they could not get their offense going, and bad play calling ,etc. Why don't you guys just admit it. Lovejoy's defense played lights out last night! They were better than you were! Take four turnovers aways from Lovejoy and a ton of penalties and Lovejoy would have beaten you guys 28 to 0 last night!

I don't have a dog in this fight, other than just a fan of good high school football. The game I saw last night was complete domination by Lovejoy! I told you they had a kicker that was money! You guys thought I was crazy.....

To the Lovejoy faithful, congrats on a great win last night. Good luck on the remainder of your season and take it all the way this year! You guys showed tremendous heart by coming together as a team like you did, while having to face adversity because of the selfishness of a few. To the guys who stepped up in the absence of several of your starters, congratulations. I would like to nominate # 41 from your team as the player of the game. He was all over the field making tackles out in space on his own and sacking the quarterback and was just a beast on defense last night. Can anyone tell me what his name is? Good luck on the remainder of your season!
Sir, first of all congrats to Lovejoy, they did play lights out on D, and I agree, their #41 was man of the match. However, saying Celina was looking past LL is simply not true, and disrespects the effort put in by Celina and Lovejoy players alike. It would also be remiss not to point out, for those that were not there, or haven't looked at the stats, that Celina also fumbled 4 times, twice leading directly to LL points, and neither team was penalized heavily - LL had 50 yds, Celina 35 - and that Celina had more yards and more 1st downs. So a total domination by any definition is misleading 28-0.... really? Doesn't matter anyway, I've already said it above, congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all teams left in the playoffs... a big sigh as I finish this post and close the lid on the laptop.
GO STANFORD!
;)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
Sir, first of all congrats to Lovejoy, they did play lights out on D, and I agree, their #41 was man of the match. However, saying Celina was looking past LL is simply not true, and disrespects the effort put in by Celina and Lovejoy players alike. It would also be remiss not to point out, for those that were not there, or haven't looked at the stats, that Celina also fumbled 4 times, twice leading directly to LL points, and neither team was penalized heavily - LL had 50 yds, Celina 35 - and that Celina had more yards and more 1st downs. So a total domination by any definition is misleading 28-0.... really? Doesn't matter anyway, I've already said it above, congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all teams left in the playoffs... a big sigh as I finish this post and close the lid on the laptop.
GO STANFORD!
;)

Hi MoveinDad, I hope you will join with and cheer us on! I hope you have a very Happy Thanksgiving with the family!:)

[ssgmp5150]

I will admit that Celina had their share of turnovers and penalties as well, but Lovejoy turned the ball over several times inside their own 20 and had to make several goal line stands to stay in the game. I don't think Celina's turnovers were quite as critical. The penalties Lovejoy got killed offensive drives they had going. In my opinion, Lovejoy moved the ball against Celina with much more effectiveness than did Celina. Lovejoy's defense had a little something to do with that. I just think that had a few of those turnovers went Lovejoy's way, they score a couple of more times. There was no way Celina was scoring very many points against Lovejoy's defense. However, a badly thrown ball to a wide open receiver in the end zone killed the best scoring chance Celina had last night. Celina was in my opinion domintated by Lovejoy! Lovejoy's offense had several miscues last night and was without several starters. So, I think that if only a couple of those penalties or turnovers did not happen for Lovejoy they would have scored a couple of more times. However, I do see your point of view and respect that. I just think some of the Celina posters are still wearing their homer glasses. This is totally a non-biased opinion from someone who was at the game last night who even sat on the Celina side!


Originally posted by MoveInDad
Sir, first of all congrats to Lovejoy, they did play lights out on D, and I agree, their #41 was man of the match. However, saying Celina was looking past LL is simply not true, and disrespects the effort put in by Celina and Lovejoy players alike. It would also be remiss not to point out, for those that were not there, or haven't looked at the stats, that Celina also fumbled 4 times, twice leading directly to LL points, and neither team was penalized heavily - LL had 50 yds, Celina 35 - and that Celina had more yards and more 1st downs. So a total domination by any definition is misleading 28-0.... really? Doesn't matter anyway, I've already said it above, congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all teams left in the playoffs... a big sigh as I finish this post and close the lid on the laptop.
GO STANFORD!
;)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
Another note from the game....Coach Ford was outcoached last night ten fold by the Lovejoy coaching staff. To do that, you gotta get up early in the morning, because that doesn't happen very often! So, congrats to the Lovejoy coaching staff! The hard count on 4th down in my opinion sealed the game combined with the fake punt. Celina prematurely pulled their fake punt out of their back of tricks way to early in the ball game. Lovejoy coaching staff was two steps ahead of them all night long last night! Congrats to the Leopards!

Thank-you, I hope the Farmersville folks will support us as we go on in the playoffs! Have a Happy Thanksgiving!:)

[ssgmp5150]

We plan to follow you guys hopefully the rest of the way. Do you know who you are playing and where next week? Who won? Henderson or Lindale?


Originally posted by Charlie47
Thank-you, I hope the Farmersville folks will support us as we go on in the playoffs! Have a Happy Thanksgiving!:)

[NTFan]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
Celina QB goes 4-22 for 44 yds passing (5-23 for 83 overall), THAT is the story of the game in my opinion...others mentioned 'bonehead' calls (not going for 3pts while in the red zone), however I didn't see it that way this year. Yes, he was pressured, but I, like other Celina fans I'm sure, were always conscience that our 'balanced' O was always 1 bad night by an average QB, away from this result. I hesitate to point out any individual, or position, as others obviously are because it hasn't been mentioned, but anybody at the game will recall the misfire to an all alone #21 in the end zone from 5 yds, the TD 'catch' to #21 that wasn't given, was a bad throw as well from only the 5yd line. Also, the play where #1 was left uncovered on the right, standing out there by himself with fans screaming for the QB to look... who does not and it ends up a busted play. There was a dropped ball or two, but for the most part receivers didn't have an opportunity to catch the ball as it was flying over the heads.
Celina needed their QB to help them win this game, to be a leader and step up,in the face of a stiff run defense, and execute the passing game, and he folded... it just wasn't in his DNA.
While some will point out that Celina still had more yards and more 1st downs etc, against a solid team like LJ, you can't not execute that many plays and expect to be in the game at the end of 4 quarters.
D held LJ to 200 yds total offense and 3pts until 4 mins left in the game... you can't ask them to do much more than that against a good team
LJ a much better team than Kennedale was last year in the 2nd round, but very eerily the same pattern on offense - turnovers and a very bad night at the QB position - lead to a total of 6pts from those 2 games. It's a team game being played by kids, so I may be in bad form for discussing a poor performance by an individual - perhaps protocol is to only praise good ones - I'm sure I'm about to find out.
Congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all the teams left in the hunt.
cheers!

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Means and Lusby were both used throughout the year

While Means was out, 11/2 games, he was not his old self
for the 1st half of the season. Lusby came in and set the Lovejoy passing record, 355 yds, several TDs. Means was always listed as #1. In the later half of the season, the coaches put in a 2 QBset. Man we were really putting up points with that. Michael had a bad anle and knee
the 1st part of the season. When Ryan was in, he called his own plays,
at least most of the time. He's really sharp! Of course he's getting better all the time. He doesn't let pressure bother him. Ryan and Michael
were both passing for over 60%. We'll move on with Ryan.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
We plan to follow you guys hopefully the rest of the way. Do you know who you are playing and where next week? Who won? Henderson or Lindale?

I do know it's Henderson, they scored 28 unanswered points in the 2nd half. We are just glad to have the opportunity to,"Finnish It", theyre motto!:)

BTW, folks some have ask about #41, that's Blake Westback, he also
leads in INTs.:)

[ssgmp5150]

Well....I nominate Blake Westback for MVP of the game! He was a man amongst boys out there last night! Make sure to tell him he played a helluva game! Let us know where you will be playing Henderson at when you find out. From what I understand Henderson has a pretty darn good football team as well. Gonna be another hard fought contest next week. Keep it up, we are pulling for you guys.


Originally posted by Charlie47
I do know it's Henderson, they scored 28 unanswered points in the 2nd half. We are just glad to have the opportunity to,"Finnish It", theyre motto!:)

BTW, folks some have ask about #41, that's Blake Westback, he also
leads in INTs.:)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
Well....I nominate Blake Westback for MVP of the game! He was a man amongst boys out there last night! Make sure to tell him he played a helluva game! Let us know where you will be playing Henderson at when you find out. From what I understand Henderson has a pretty darn good football team as well. Gonna be another hard fought contest next week. Keep it up, we are pulling for you guys.

They're no easy games!:eek: :)

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Charlie47
They're no easy games!:eek: :)

We do play Henderson. The game will be on Friday the 26th at 7:30.
The venue has not been released yet.:confused: :)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
The hard count on 4th down in my opinion sealed the game combined with the fake punt. It was still 3-0. The fake punt helped them to their first TD if I remember right and the hard count on 4th and 1 was the seal on the game when it was 10-0. The last TD was not important as their were only a couple of minutes left. It came off of a hurried QB who got to the huddle with 15 seconds on the play clock. A hurried snap that did not look like should have been snapped or was at least unexpected. Again the play was not important at that point.

Lovejoys defense came to play last night. They packed the box with 8,9 and sometimes 10 in the box. They out Celina'd Celina. Very good intensity all night. As far as turnovers go, theirs were of no consequence to them in my opinion. Our 3 happened in the red zone. Oh well I guess we will be back next year.

How did the Farmersville do since moving up? I haven't heard about them much, but then...... I forgot to use a buch of exclamation points too. I hope you can read without them. :D

[ssgmp5150]

I agree pretty much with your post there Bobcat1. The hard count on 4th and 1 sealed the deal. The last TD was of no importance. Celina did get out Celina'ed last night. I disagree with the turnovers. Lovejoy turned it over several times inside their own 20 yard line causing Lovejoy's defense to have to make several goal line stands. As far as the shot at Farmersville....I find that humerous as everyone knows we stunk it up this year! Gonna take us a few more years to get back to our old form. A good starting point for us would be to get rid of our current head coach! Anyway, that is neither here nor there as Lovejoy deserves all the credit for a dominating win last night. Congrats to the Leopards and good luck to the Bobcats in basketball this season!


Originally posted by bobcat1
It was still 3-0. The fake punt helped them to their first TD if I remember right and the hard count on 4th and 1 was the seal on the game when it was 10-0. The last TD was not important as their were only a couple of minutes left. It came off of a hurried QB who got to the huddle with 15 seconds on the play clock. A hurried snap that did not look like should have been snapped or was at least unexpected. Again the play was not important at that point.

Lovejoys defense came to play last night. They packed the box with 8,9 and sometimes 10 in the box. They out Celina'd Celina. Very good intensity all night. As far as turnovers go, theirs were of no consequence to them in my opinion. Our 3 happened in the red zone. Oh well I guess we will be back next year.

How did the Farmersville do since moving up? I haven't heard about them much, but then...... I forgot to use a buch of exclamation points too. I hope you can read without them. :D

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
I don't think Celina's turnovers were quite as critical. :rolleyes: 2 or 3 in the red zone are not critical? :thinking: Off to the couch for some Hot Wings and football. Later. Y'all play nice.

[ssgmp5150]

I understand what you are saying. I just think that a couple of those turnovers for both teams simply cancelled each other out. Both teams turned the ball over during critical points in the game. I just think Lovejoy's turnovers took more points off the board for them. Either way, I think Lovejoy would have won by a couple of touchdowns. Anyway, gonna kick back and watch some college ball now. Have a happy thanksgiving everyone.


Originally posted by bobcat1
:rolleyes: 2 or 3 in the red zone are not critical? :thinking: Off to the couch for some Hot Wings and football. Later. Y'all play nice.

[ctown]

Originally posted by ssgmp5150
I will admit that Celina had their share of turnovers and penalties as well, but Lovejoy turned the ball over several times inside their own 20 and had to make several goal line stands to stay in the game. I don't think Celina's turnovers were quite as critical. ... This is totally a non-biased opinion from someone who was at the game last night who even sat on the Celina side!

You're kinda funny. You're saying Celina fumbling on the LJ 4 after marching the length of the field on 11 consecutive RUNNING plays was not critical. Dude, Celina would have gone ahead on that drive. All turnovers are critical.

You say 28-0 and talk about us being homers. Your general positions in the past indicate you are not objective toward Celina, you should take off your hater glasses. Check the game stats. Celina had more total offense, and first downs. The most telling stat is 5 of 23 in passing for Celina. That low percentage indicates how most of our drives stalled for the night. You can count that for the LJ D and some on the QB but the times when we move the ball, we were 90% running. that's on Celina's coaching staff for not pounding the ball between the tackles. Got to the end and had to pass when the % weren't good. LJ deserves the win but spare us the 28-0. It could be argued persuasively the other way too. Ifs and buts, candy and nuts, etc.

[ssgmp5150]

You are right. It could be argued either way. I don't have hater glasses on, just calling it like I saw it. Just my opinion. Bottom line is Lovejoy won and Celina is now playing basketball. Congrats to the Leopards and good luck against Henderson.


Originally posted by ctown
You're kinda funny. You're saying Celina fumbling on the LJ 4 after marching the length of the field on 11 consecutive RUNNING plays was not critical. Dude, Celina would have gone ahead on that drive. All turnovers are critical.

You say 28-0 and talk about us being homers. Your general positions in the past indicate you are not objective toward Celina, you should take off your hater glasses. Check the game stats. Celina had more total offense, and first downs. The most telling stat is 5 of 23 in passing for Celina. That low percentage indicates how most of our drives stalled for the night. You can count that for the LJ D and some on the QB but the times when we move the ball, we were 90% running. that's on Celina's coaching staff for not pounding the ball between the tackles. Got to the end and had to pass when the % weren't good. LJ deserves the win but spare us the 28-0. It could be argued persuasively the other way too. Ifs and buts, candy and nuts, etc.

[Sittin & Fishin]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
Celina QB goes 4-22 for 44 yds passing (5-23 for 83 overall), THAT is the story of the game in my opinion...others mentioned 'bonehead' calls (not going for 3pts while in the red zone), however I didn't see it that way this year. Yes, he was pressured, but I, like other Celina fans I'm sure, were always conscience that our 'balanced' O was always 1 bad night by an average QB, away from this result. I hesitate to point out any individual, or position, as others obviously are because it hasn't been mentioned, but anybody at the game will recall the misfire to an all alone #21 in the end zone from 5 yds, the TD 'catch' to #21 that wasn't given, was a bad throw as well from only the 5yd line. Also, the play where #1 was left uncovered on the right, standing out there by himself with fans screaming for the QB to look... who does not and it ends up a busted play. There was a dropped ball or two, but for the most part receivers didn't have an opportunity to catch the ball as it was flying over the heads.
Celina needed their QB to help them win this game, to be a leader and step up,in the face of a stiff run defense, and execute the passing game, and he folded... it just wasn't in his DNA.
While some will point out that Celina still had more yards and more 1st downs etc, against a solid team like LJ, you can't not execute that many plays and expect to be in the game at the end of 4 quarters.
D held LJ to 200 yds total offense and 3pts until 4 mins left in the game... you can't ask them to do much more than that against a good team
LJ a much better team than Kennedale was last year in the 2nd round, but very eerily the same pattern on offense - turnovers and a very bad night at the QB position - lead to a total of 6pts from those 2 games. It's a team game being played by kids, so I may be in bad form for discussing a poor performance by an individual - perhaps protocol is to only praise good ones - I'm sure I'm about to find out.
Congrats to Lovejoy and good luck to all the teams left in the hunt.
cheers!

I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Sittin & Fishin
I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man. :clap: :clap: :clap: Now that is hitting it square between the eyes. Thank you for taking the time to type this. I hope it did some good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[MesquiteFan]

Hey guys, the Lovejoy-Henderson game will be played Friday 7:30 at Hanby Stadium in Mesquite

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Sittin & Fishin
I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man. I tried to send you a private message but here goes; I think you are dead on. Their surely must have been an axe to grind in MID's post. Why else would you single out any one kid in a team sport? It's never been Celina's way to say what was said in his post. You owe no apology to anyone. More posts like yours are needed. Thanks again.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Sittin & Fishin
I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man.

Great POst, come back more often!:clap: :clap:

[steved]

First off--Great job LJ--good luck against Henderson


For all of Celina folks I have to agree with Fishing and Bobcat

But I need to add--why don't you think about this one--who was in charge of the offense last night--who was in charge of the offense last year--Do you think he might be to blame--Do you think it was the guy who was taking credit for the powerful offense

Last year the excuse was the kids weren’t playing as a team--this year certain people are blaming the kids for the loss--who is the play caller!! Do you think LJ didn’t watch the Kennedale film from last year and go hhmmm maybe lets put 10 in the box.

In both playoff losses the last two years the defense did their job and held teams to minimal yards and points and gave the offense field position on a SILVER PLATTER. The offense was controlled and didnt change their gameplan after the 1st, half ,or third qt. The boys did what the OC told them to do.

Maybe we should find a offensive coach that is not focused on a 7th and 8th grade football and not about what offense you are going to run 3yrs from now

To all the BOYS on offense and defense you had a great year and all of you should be proud of what you accomplished this year-it was great watching you-all of you be ready for next year and we will be there to support you


so who needs the evaluation---hmmmmmm

[bobcat1]

The plays called were there. Just needed execution. Why single out the OC? If any play is executed perfectly it will work.

[steved]

agreed but only against certain defenses--I believe each play is designed to work against a certain defense--dont think you run the same plays against a 4-3 that you would 10-1.


Or maybe with an agressive D maybe a reverse or quick slant should be tried==not just sticking with what works against everyone else

[bobcat1]

With those outside backers crashing down keeping everything in a box like they were reverses or slants would be difficult especially if no one blocks them. They were crashin the ends and stackin the box all night. I'll stick with the OC.

[steved]

ok but look at pattern--Prosper Kennedale LJ all had the same idea send 10 and try to beat us--so on all three games you are saying execution--hmmm---not coaching???

But wwe can agree to disagree have a nice evening

[bobcat1]

If it was coaching and all it took was what those good teams did why didn't all the other teams in the past 3 years do the same? You single out 3 games in 3 years and call out the OC. This is the same OC that has at least 4 Championship rings maybe more. I agree we disagree and always will about the OC. Teams just have bad nights and it usually when another team has a great night. Kennedale did not have a great night except that they won and in the end that is all that mattered. Prosper and Lovejoy did.

[Eagle 1]

Originally posted by Sittin & Fishin
I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man.


POST OF THE YEAR!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by bobcat1
If it was coaching and all it took was what those good teams did why didn't all the other teams in the past 3 years do the same? You single out 3 games in 3 years and call out the OC. This is the same OC that has at least 4 Championship rings maybe more. I agree we disagree and always will about the OC. Teams just have bad nights and it usually when another team has a great night. Kennedale did not have a great night except that they won and in the end that is all that mattered. Prosper and Lovejoy did.

Actually he has 7

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by charlesrixey
Actually he has 7 Thanks Rixey. I thought he had more but was not certain as to how many he actually had as OC.

[orange machine]

Steved are you crazy the OC is a great coach and a great play caller. He knows what he is doing and does what is best for the kids he has to work for. He has alot of rings as a coach in Celina and I would take him over just about any coach. You get the real deal with him nothing fake and to blame him for the last two years is the most ridiculous thing to do. This is the same coach that implemented the spread into Celina's offense this year to help out the qb who was not a runner what more do you want from him. He is one of the best coaches in the state and loves Celina and the kids and has numerous chances to leave Celina for a AD job, but stayed because of his love for Celina. I hope when Coach Ford decides to hang it up and hopefully that's still a ways off that Coach Elliot the OC takes over. I assure you most people in Celina want the same thing.

[Stephenson]

Originally posted by Sittin & Fishin
I have stayed off this site all season except for one post about the Lovejoy QB last week. The reason I have stayed off is because I get frustrated reading opinions from people who really have no clue what they are talking about, but acting like they are football experts. I do not think of myself as an expert even though I coached for more than 30 years because the game is complex and everchanging. While coaching, I had to deal with people like this all the time, and it makes the job very unenjoyable. But, you understand it is part of the job and forge ahead.

However, I find this post to be way over the top and very troubling as you call out a single player. In the last five years, I only missed one Celina game. However, this year, I have only seen eight of the games. In the games I saw, I was very impressed with the Celina QB. It was very obvious from the very first game that the coaches were going to use him differently than QB's of the past. From game observation and conversations with some coaches, it was clear the coaches wanted to use his arm to back defenses up so the running backs could have more room to run. The other aspect with this year is the fact that Celina had 5 or 6 very capable running backs and they did not need the QB to be the runner that they have used in the past. The result was an offense with over 1,800 yards passing, three runners close to or over 1,000 yards, and one of the most prolific scoring attacks in Celina history. And, an 11-1 record.

You say the Celina QB had a bad game last night. Did you notice that he was under constant pressure the entire night getting sacked 6 times? Did you notice the technique the Lovejoy linebackers were using on play action passes that totally disrupted the blocking schemes in backfield and changed all of the normal passing lanes? Did you notice the presnap position of th defensive linemen and their stunt packages? Did you notice the presnap position of the corners and safeties, and how the linebackers covered the running backs coming out of the backfield on pass routes? There was one thing that was very obvious throughout this game; that the Lovejoy coaches had scouted Celina extremely well and had the defense ready for the Celina passing game. They totally disrupted the passing game with great execution and coaching schemes.

In your attempt to find blame with one person, you fail to mention that Celina stayed in man to man coverage the entire night which cost them dearly on three occasions in obvious passing situations when different coverage schemes were needed. You don't mention 3 lost fumbles, one inside the Lovejoy 5. You don't mention a missed FG and the subsequent decision to not kick again inside the Lovejoy 15 on two other possessions. You don't mention the amazingly critical Celina offsides foul when Lovejoy had the ball on their own 10 and were going for a 4th and 1 (even though it was obvious they were trying to draw Celina offside). This was even after Celina called a timeout to make Lovejoy punt into the wind as there was less than 30 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter. That was a critical play. You don't mention the defense giving up a 1st down on a fake punt. You don't mention a dropped TD pass in the endzone. You don't ask why the coaches didn't give the ball to Mendoza more as he was having great success running (10 carries for 81 yds). If the QB was off, you don't ask why the coaches didn't run more and try to tire out the big Lovejoy defense. You don't mention 4 Celina missed tackles on 3rd downs that gave Lovejoy 1st downs at critical points in the second half of the game. I could mention more elements of the game, but I doubt you would understand. You fail to understand that football is a team game with 11 players on the field, and that there is an offense and a defense. At this level, and against a very good Lovejoy team, any mistake, or missed assignments, causes a domino effect which usually winds up in the lap of the QB or the ball carrier.

You mention the QB was 5-23 on the game. How many of those passes were in the 4th quarter when Lovejoy knew Celina was passing and blitzed every play and covered the Celina receivers like gloves as they knew the QB was only going to have 2 or 3 seconds to get rid of the ball? How many of those passes were in long yardage situations where the QB had to try to wait for receivers to get downfield while he was getting blitzed? How many of those long passes were into a mild to blustery wind in the 4th quarter?

Was it his best passing game of the year? Obviously not. Will he admit that he had a rough night? Yes. But, was the game solely his fault? Absolutely not.

It's guys like you who "Move In" to communities and think you know everything without understanding anything, especially about the town and the tradition. I do not live in Celina but I have a son, nephews and grandchildren there. For many years, I have watched the town rally around the players and root for them in ways that would make other coaches at all levels jealous. Celina is a good town. It is generally a commuity that tries to protect and look after each other. However, there are insecure guys who want to try to find blame, and lay it in the lap of a single player.

What is your reason for this post? You even hint at the end of your post that you know what you are doing is wrong, but you still do it. Is your purpose to specifically try to make a young man feel terrible after a tough season ending loss? I find it amazing that you would overlook everything that happened in the game and try to intentionally hurt a player on your hometown team. You obviously have an axe to grind with him, or his family, and you have taken it upon yourself to try to embarrass him with your post. I wonder if this makes you feel like more of a man?

To other readers of 3A downlow, I am sorry for coming on so strong. I just felt like I needed to defend this young man who is a very good friend of one of my grandsons. I have met the QB and know of his strong character and leadership. I have heard my grandson and other teammates talk about him with admiration and respect. I have talked to the Celina coaches who have said that he started in the spring and made it his mission to bring this team back together after the disaster of last year. In his first year as a varsity starter, he did this and lead the team to an 11-1 record. While typing this, I called my grandson and asked him about the QB. He said that since 6th grade, he thought this QB had gone 62 (or 63)-3 as a starter, counting last nights loss. Sounds like a winner to this old man.

Sittin & Fishin ... thanks for this post. Last night was a tough game and the pain is still being felt today... both physically and emotionally for the boys. Why people do the things they do is beyond me, but dealing with people like that is simply part of life. We often tell our children that "you show your true character with the way you handle adversity." I am very proud of the way my boys have handled this defeat. I am proud of their character and deep faith in Christ. And I am exceedingly proud of the effort they played with all year.

The things "Move In Dad" wrote will be read, and it will hurt, just like he intended his words to do. But, the truth is known and I know one young man who will continue to stand tall, just like all of the players did in the locker room last night after the game. They were all incredibly hurt, but they all showed an amazing comaraderie and love for each other as they faced the sudden end of their playing days. These boys on this team have brought back the friendship and love for fellow teammates that had been in short supply the last few years. It is a comaraderie and love for each other that some people will never understand or experience. I am amazed at how this group of seniors rallied around each other last spring and made a commitment to be a great team, and they were.

Character is how we handle adversity. I was very proud of both teams last night. I was very proud of the way Celina never stopped fighting until the last second ran off the clock. They showed great character. That's the Celina way. I am also proud of Lovejoy. We go to church with one of the Lovejoy players and last Sunday we were talking about the suspensions of three of their players. He looked us straight in the eyes and said the team was mad about it all, but they were determined to show they could win without those players. The Lovejoy team did just that. They showed great character in the face of adversity and they should all be extremely proud of their effort. They are going to be a tough team to beat with that mentality and talent.

I would like to also say that I am proud of Celina. It is a very good place full of good people (mostly). It is a good place to raise children, and experience a lot of things that may be missed at larger 4A and 5A schools. I am thankful for their openness to faith, and I am thankful the coaches pray with the boys and often talk scripture and the Bible.

Like Celina or not, the success of their football team is unquestioned. My wife and I often talk about how these boys simply do not understand how special and unique it is to go the playoffs every year...and to typically go deep... and to honestly have the expectation of going to State. They simply think that is how it's supposed to be and they work their tails off to achieve. EVERY BOY, AND COACH, on the team worked incredibly hard for a very long time for this season and I hope we concentrate on thanking them for their efforts, and show them our appreciation while they are hurting. That is what a good town does, and that is what good people do.

I hope God Blesses each one of you who reads this, and I hope all the boys who are remaining in the playoffs stay healthy.

Happy and Safe Thanksgiving.

[orange machine]

Mr. Stephenson that was well put I and I believe most people don't Blame your boy one bit it's a team game. Jacob has shown that he is a leader not just on the football field, but in life in general. Jacob lead this team and did a great job. The facts are last night Celina just didn't execute when they needed to and know one player or coach is at fault. Celina is in good hands with Brooks taken over at qb and I know from what I saw of him this year as a sophomore that he is goona be a great leader on this team.

[Charlie47]

Originally posted by Stephenson
Sittin & Fishin ... thanks for this post. Last night was a tough game and the pain is still being felt today... both physically and emotionally for the boys. Why people do the things they do is beyond me, but dealing with people like that is simply part of life. We often tell our children that "you show your true character with the way you handle adversity." I am very proud of the way my boys have handled this defeat. I am proud of their character and deep faith in Christ. And I am exceedingly proud of the effort they played with all year.

The things "Move In Dad" wrote will be read, and it will hurt, just like he intended his words to do. But, the truth is known and I know one young man who will continue to stand tall, just like all of the players did in the locker room last night after the game. They were all incredibly hurt, but they all showed an amazing comaraderie and love for each other as they faced the sudden end of their playing days. These boys on this team have brought back the friendship and love for fellow teammates that had been in short supply the last few years. It is a comaraderie and love for each other that some people will never understand or experience. I am amazed at how this group of seniors rallied around each other last spring and made a commitment to be a great team, and they were.

Character is how we handle adversity. I was very proud of both teams last night. I was very proud of the way Celina never stopped fighting until the last second ran off the clock. They showed great character. That's the Celina way. I am also proud of Lovejoy. We go to church with one of the Lovejoy players and last Sunday we were talking about the suspensions of three of their players. He looked us straight in the eyes and said the team was mad about it all, but they were determined to show they could win without those players. The Lovejoy team did just that. They showed great character in the face of adversity and they should all be extremely proud of their effort. They are going to be a tough team to beat with that mentality and talent.

I would like to also say that I am proud of Celina. It is a very good place full of good people (mostly). It is a good place to raise children, and experience a lot of things that may be missed at larger 4A and 5A schools. I am thankful for their openness to faith, and I am thankful the coaches pray with the boys and often talk scripture and the Bible.

Like Celina or not, the success of their football team is unquestioned. My wife and I often talk about how these boys simply do not understand how special and unique it is to go the playoffs every year...and to typically go deep... and to honestly have the expectation of going to State. They simply think that is how it's supposed to be and they work their tails off to achieve. EVERY BOY, AND COACH, on the team worked incredibly hard for a very long time for this season and I hope we concentrate on thanking them for their efforts, and show them our appreciation while they are hurting. That is what a good town does, and that is what good people do.

I hope God Blesses each one of you who reads this, and I hope all the boys who are remaining in the playoffs stay healthy.

Happy and Safe Thanksgiving.

Mr Stephenson, First thank-you for being here. It's great to have you.
I can't say how much I respect and admire you Sir. There was a reason your son had a difficult game, it certainly wasn't his fault. He gave it all he had, and should be respected for all the wonderful things he did this year at Celina, and they were very numerous. I'm confident he'll do well
in all he does. Thank-you for posting. Sir, I wish a very Happy Thanksgiving!:)

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by Stephenson
Sittin & Fishin ... thanks for this post. Last night was a tough game and the pain is still being felt today... both physically and emotionally for the boys. Why people do the things they do is beyond me, but dealing with people like that is simply part of life. We often tell our children that "you show your true character with the way you handle adversity." I am very proud of the way my boys have handled this defeat. I am proud of their character and deep faith in Christ. And I am exceedingly proud of the effort they played with all year.

The things "Move In Dad" wrote will be read, and it will hurt, just like he intended his words to do. But, the truth is known and I know one young man who will continue to stand tall, just like all of the players did in the locker room last night after the game. They were all incredibly hurt, but they all showed an amazing comaraderie and love for each other as they faced the sudden end of their playing days. These boys on this team have brought back the friendship and love for fellow teammates that had been in short supply the last few years. It is a comaraderie and love for each other that some people will never understand or experience. I am amazed at how this group of seniors rallied around each other last spring and made a commitment to be a great team, and they were.

Character is how we handle adversity. I was very proud of both teams last night. I was very proud of the way Celina never stopped fighting until the last second ran off the clock. They showed great character. That's the Celina way. I am also proud of Lovejoy. We go to church with one of the Lovejoy players and last Sunday we were talking about the suspensions of three of their players. He looked us straight in the eyes and said the team was mad about it all, but they were determined to show they could win without those players. The Lovejoy team did just that. They showed great character in the face of adversity and they should all be extremely proud of their effort. They are going to be a tough team to beat with that mentality and talent.

I would like to also say that I am proud of Celina. It is a very good place full of good people (mostly). It is a good place to raise children, and experience a lot of things that may be missed at larger 4A and 5A schools. I am thankful for their openness to faith, and I am thankful the coaches pray with the boys and often talk scripture and the Bible.

Like Celina or not, the success of their football team is unquestioned. My wife and I often talk about how these boys simply do not understand how special and unique it is to go the playoffs every year...and to typically go deep... and to honestly have the expectation of going to State. They simply think that is how it's supposed to be and they work their tails off to achieve. EVERY BOY, AND COACH, on the team worked incredibly hard for a very long time for this season and I hope we concentrate on thanking them for their efforts, and show them our appreciation while they are hurting. That is what a good town does, and that is what good people do.

I hope God Blesses each one of you who reads this, and I hope all the boys who are remaining in the playoffs stay healthy.

Happy and Safe Thanksgiving.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[bobcat1]

Stephenson,

People like you are Celina. Thanks!

[trojandad]

sittin & fishin and stephenson.....top rung, men.......

some people forget things can always be worse.....like 10-2.....or 9-3.....maybe 8-4......:thinking: :thinking:

[NTFan]

I edited my reply to "move-in dad"......because it wasn't suitable or appropriate for this site.......there is no place for that attitude in high school sports. this man obviously doesn't have kids that play a main part of sports teams. if he did, he would never have posted what he did. js is a class individual and did a great job this year. congrats on a great senior year and good luck the rest of the year in your other endeavors.