'83 Daingerfield vs. '10 Brownwood

[Snotbubbles]

Not sure B'wood would even score on this team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9owTM9SyH0

[BwdLion73]

Noooooooooooo! Just like our team we have many weapons on this board. :D but 10 to 15 active threads is just too much. :mad: :eek: :doh:

[Old Tiger]

already a thread about this

[Snotbubbles]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
Noooooooooooo! Just like our team we have many weapons on this board. :D but 10 to 15 active threads is just too much. :mad: :eek: :doh:

LOL. Sorry. I was reading all them other BW cupcake opponent threads. Thought I'd put up one with the states best 3A team of all time and see how this year's BW team matched up.

[Snotbubbles]

Originally posted by Old Tiger
already a thread about this

Not in regards to if BW could score on them.


http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?T=932&S=1983

[Pendragon13]

I can't decide which is my favorite part of that video..

A) the 80's porn-stache and hairspray combover on the reporter

B) the two drunk hillbillies in front of the convenience store

[Gobbler Fan]

Sorry but Brownwood would get smashed like a grape and made into wine in this matchup . :devil:

[Old Tiger]

Are we playing modern day offensive rules or back then rules?


Give me whichever set of rules we are using for the winner.


Modern: Bwood
Old School: daingerfield

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by Snotbubbles
LOL. Sorry. I was reading all them other BW cupcake opponent threads. Thought I'd put up one with the states best 3A team of all time and see how this year's BW team matched up.



:confused: :wave: :wave:

[Snotbubbles]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
I can't decide which is my favorite part of that video..

A) the 80's porn-stache and hairspray combover on the reporter

B) the two drunk hillbillies in front of the convenience store

LOL. Classic huh? I like Coach Alexanders cap too. Man times sure seem easy back then. I heard that reporter was David Smoak. He the creator of Smoaky.com, the Smokehouse Forum. This was his first gig I believe.

[Rocket]

Brownwood would give them all they could handle and some. Not saying they would win, but Daingerfield would be doing some chasing, that's for sure.

[Snotbubbles]

Originally posted by Rocket
Brownwood would give them all they could handle and some. Not saying they would win, but Daingerfield would be doing some chasing, that's for sure.

Dunno Rocket. To me, this '83 team was the best ever. 15 shutouts, 8 points allowed all year. Dayuuum. Not too sure ya'll could hang with the '09 DFLD Tiger 2A team.

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by Snotbubbles
Dunno Rocket. To me, this '83 team was the best ever. 15 shutouts, 8 points allowed all year. Dayuuum. Not too sure ya'll could hang with the '09 DFLD Tiger 2A team. Not to mention that back then slobberknockers drew cheers from the crowd and not flags..

[Snotbubbles]

I seen that '83 and '09 Tiger team play several times. Have not seen BW ever play, so---really can't say who would win.

Must be fair here.

[BLACK ATTACK]

Seen BW play.

Offense is everything that they say it is. Defense is an average, quality 3A defense. Don't know if a team can outscore them, but they can certainly score on them.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Seen BW play.

Offense is everything that they say it is. Defense is an average, quality 3A defense. Don't know if a team can outscore them, but they can certainly score on them.

Our defense is good enough to get 4 stops a game on any 3A team...that is all it takes...lights out...buh bye :)

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by Rocket
Our defense is good enough to get 4 stops a game on any 3A team...that is all it takes...lights out...buh bye :)


In your homer opinion, which actually means absolutely nothing.

If BW wins it, and they certainly might, it will have everything to do with offense, and very little to do with defense. It's an average, OK defense, nothing more. There are plenty of teams in 3A that can score a ton of points on BW. Just because they haven't played any of them coming out of that part of the state, leaves only your opinion, which once again means nothing. Didn't take long to figure that out watching the IP game. They were one dimensional, with one player. I've told everyone that has asked about BW, that you will be hard pressed to find an offense that is better, but defense, not so much. Beat Aledo....hardly. Jonathan Gray would gut your d-line and linebackers like a pig.

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Jonathan Gray would gut your d-line and linebackers like a pig.

What would he do to the team you support?

Better yet, what would Brownwood's O do to the team you support?

People on this board start threads about "such and such would kill Brownwood".... maybe they would, maybe they won't... but what would they do to your team?

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
What would he do to the team you support?

Better yet, what would Brownwood's O do to the team you support?

People on this board start threads about "such and such would kill Brownwood".... maybe they would, maybe they won't... but what would they do to your team?


Well....if you would pay attention.....they would score on us in bunches, no doubt. But that average defense would find it difficult to prevent the same from happening to them. You might load up and stop the run, you might spread out and stop the pass, but cross a team that does both well and your defense is in a mess. Say what you want (and I know you will) to convince me otherwise, but I've seen it for myself now.

As far as Jonathan Gray goes, I have no doubt that he would eat us up, but then again, I haven't been the one on here saying my team would destroy Aledo, '83 Dangerfield, Euless Trinity, Bama, or anyone else that dare step on the field with the mighty Lions.

You guys have a great football team, maybe one of the best 3A offenses that I have ever seen, and have a great shot to win it all. One of the greatest ever, hardly. Defensively simply not good enough.

[Txbroadcaster]

I saw both play..alot of people say well D-Field did not face spread teams..and that is true, but the thing is, the strength of that D might very well have been the back part of that D with Rodney Mims, Johnny Hendrix, and Eric Everett in the secondary and Ladd Freeman at LB...then add Victor Edmond on the DL with Guy Searcy..this defense was as special as Bwood' offense is now...but here is the thing that gets lost..the D-Field O was pretty damn good as well

they had a great OL led by Willie Everett and Mike McCurdy( both All State

their offense scored 631 points for a team that was more about defense..

I just think as much as I love Bwood's team this year, that 1983 team is still in a little bit higher level

[griff]

Brownwood hasn't won the state title. Daingerfield did. If and until they do, THEN would be the time to begin making comparisons like this.

[RPF2666]

But the comparison will always fall short, favoring D'83 because of the defensive stats...you cannot argue it!

[RPF2666]

Check that...

You could argue it, but you'd look like a total
Rocket-hole!!!

;)

[hollywood]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
In your homer opinion, which actually means absolutely nothing.

If BW wins it, and they certainly might, it will have everything to do with offense, and very little to do with defense. It's an average, OK defense, nothing more. There are plenty of teams in 3A that can score a ton of points on BW. Just because they haven't played any of them coming out of that part of the state, leaves only your opinion, which once again means nothing. Didn't take long to figure that out watching the IP game. They were one dimensional, with one player. I've told everyone that has asked about BW, that you will be hard pressed to find an offense that is better, but defense, not so much. Beat Aledo....hardly. Jonathan Gray would gut your d-line and linebackers like a pig.

BLACK ATTACK, I respect your view since you have watched Brownwood against Iowa Park. The Lions' offense is very good this year and the defense is good. Iowa Park basically was pulling out all the stops against Brownwood's D as desperation being in a sudden death playoff situation. I would say that any other situation, say if they would have played in the regular season, IP would have been lucky to score 7. And one of Brownwood's best DB didn't even play in the game. I know I've referenced this before, but just in case you missed it, Brownwood was able to shut down Sville's running attack that gave Aledo trouble as far as yardage goes. Sville's RB out gained Aledo's Gray. I watched that game between Aledo and Sville and although you differ in opinion, Brownwood could give Aledo all they wanted and then some more. Brownwood's D would hold Gray, I could almost guarantee you that.

But, what does it really matter? Here we are talking about things that are not going to happen. Speculation. I will tell you this, the defense you witnessed last Thursday night, was not Brownwood's 100% defense.

[roos]

Cosidering brownwood's current enrollment is about 4 times larger than Dangerfields was, it would be difficult to pick Dangerfield.

How does a town with 18,000 population make it into 3A again?

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by roos
Cosidering brownwood's current enrollment is about 4 times larger than Dangerfields was, it would be difficult to pick Dangerfield.

How does a town with 18,000 population make it into 3A again?

It's not 18,000.... it's actually a hair over 20,000

And it makes it due to there being 6 other public high schools in the county plus 1-2 private schools (the rest of the county is only 18,000)

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK

As far as Jonathan Gray goes, I have no doubt that he would eat us up, but then again, I haven't been the one on here saying my team would destroy Aledo, '83 Dangerfield, Euless Trinity, Bama, or anyone else that dare step on the field with the mighty Lions.


I would NOT want to go up against Euless Trinity... I must have missed where someone said we would destroy them, or Bama for that matter.

If we want to say we could beat Aledo and 83 Dangerfield, who knows. I don't think we'd destroy either one, but it'd be a heck of a game. With that said, this entire thread is stupid. In fact, I think the FIRST post brought up about 83 Dangerfield vs 10 Bwood (month or more ago) was brought up by someone not from Brownwood. Just like most posts about us. If you guys would quit bringing us up in 90% of your posts, you wouldn't hear about us so much, and probably wouldn't hate us so much.

[steers2]

WHO CARES!!!!! We obviously will never find out

[dirtysouth]

How can you even compare the two? Dangerfield won state and was the best defenense/team of all time in 3A. If Brownwood actually wins the state championship then you can ask the question. But it will still have no validity at all. Dangerfield didnt get scored on all year other than a punt return or kickoff return and a safety. To me the two do not even belong in the same category!!

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by griff
Brownwood hasn't won the state title. Daingerfield did. If and until they do, THEN would be the time to begin making comparisons like this. Go somewhere else with that logic! :D

[BwdLions]

I don't know fellow Lions' fans, let's just be happy to be in the same discussion with the 83 Daingerfield team. Who knows what the outcome of a game between these two teams would be. As much as some of the people on this board like to think that Daingerfield team would spank us, no one will ever know. :p

[DDBooger]

It's hilarious to see people who AREN'T BW fans ask this and then people come on here and say they're tired of BW fans comparing themselves to these teams and saying they can beat Euless Trinity etc etc. :rolleyes: :p

[LeonJr]

http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=107038

[buckeyebob]

This has been an eye opener...thought Brownwood was invicable. Shoot, we had a pretty good team last year and they could crush The Wood.

[LeonJr]

this thread should be merged

[bwdlionfan]

I bet those guys from 83 D'field are mostly out of shape... I say bring em on

[waterboy]

As the old saying goes, "Offense wins games, but DEFENSE wins championships!" '83 Daingerfield had the most dominate defense I've ever seen at ANY level, bar none. That Tiger team was big, fast, mean, nasty, and had the most talent I've ever seen on a 3A team. I honestly don't have a doubt in my mind...........;)

[waterboy]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
I bet those guys from 83 D'field are mostly out of shape... I say bring em on
One of the players from that team is one of my customers. He's still in pretty good shape for an old fart....:D

[marler1972]

D'field would crush them no question. I saw the D'field team play the state championship game that year. I think PA SFA would had scored on them had they not gotten beat by Sweeny on penatrations..lol I was on the sidelines for The PA SFA/ Sweeny game....No really I dont think they would have scored on them even though they had a great coach.......biased alittle......

[vet93]

I have seen both teams play...only a few posters on here can say that. In my opinion...Daingerfield wins this game hands down. The athleticism on that defense, especially in the defesive backfield was off of the charts. They were the most talented 3a team I have ever seen. It is staggering the number of players off of that team that went on to play college ball. Their offense was also very potent. It seems like they ran I formation, maybe tandem eye (that was many years ago) and they would just overwhelm you at the line of scrimmage. Their backs were fast and athletic but it was the offensive line that was the most impressive. As a matter of fact in the state championship game a couple of their lineman were playing running back in mop up duty and they were averaging about 6 yards per carry. Having said all of this...I think that Brownwood, more than any team in 1983 would have presented a challenge for D-field. They are an incredibly explosive offense. They would have scored more than once in my opinion but would in the end would have lost by several td's.

[Snotbubbles]

One thing I hate about great, dominating teams. Their games are very boring to go watch. I watched DFLD's playoff games last year, and all the 1983 games. They stunk as a fan of great games. Sounds like what BW is going through this year.

Now that Gilmer/Cuero game last year in Huntsville, was a classic. Daingerfield played earlier at San Jac, so I made both games.

I hope someone can atleast give these two teams (Daingerfield/BW) some competition. I don't see it happening against Daingerfield .

[marler1972]

BW has not even won state yet so there really is no reason to compare let them win then maybe you can compare the teams.

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by hollywood
BLACK ATTACK, I respect your view since you have watched Brownwood against Iowa Park. The Lions' offense is very good this year and the defense is good. Iowa Park basically was pulling out all the stops against Brownwood's D as desperation being in a sudden death playoff situation. I would say that any other situation, say if they would have played in the regular season, IP would have been lucky to score 7. And one of Brownwood's best DB didn't even play in the game. I know I've referenced this before, but just in case you missed it, Brownwood was able to shut down Sville's running attack that gave Aledo trouble as far as yardage goes. Sville's RB out gained Aledo's Gray. I watched that game between Aledo and Sville and although you differ in opinion, Brownwood could give Aledo all they wanted and then some more. Brownwood's D would hold Gray, I could almost guarantee you that.

But, what does it really matter? Here we are talking about things that are not going to happen. Speculation. I will tell you this, the defense you witnessed last Thursday night, was not Brownwood's 100% defense.


Well, you didn't hold Lee Clubb, I can guarantee you that. Clubb is not on the same universe with Gray. We have played against Clubb several times, and I have seen Gray play several times. Not even close boys and girls.
Leaving your game the other night; Guys, I was impressed. Offense is unbelievable. Defense, not so much.
However, I was equally impressed watching Gilmer last year, and Carthage the year before that. '83 Dangerfield, well...the best of all time, no doubt. Seen enough old video to know that.
I think it's great how much you guys support your team. Hell, I wish there were a hundred Argyle poster's on here pumping up the Eagles. But, after seeing it for my self, you guys have to get a little perspective. Best team in 3A this year...most likely, Best team in 3A ever.....no way (the Vernon teams with Derrick Richardson and Dexter Butler would beat you and the SLC teams with Dane Johnson in 3A beat them), middle of the pack in 4A.....absolutely.

[buckeyebob]

Originally posted by Snotbubbles
One thing I hate about great, dominating teams. Their games are very boring to go watch. I watched DFLD's playoff games last year, and all the 1983 games. They stunk as a fan of great games. Sounds like what BW is going through this year.

Now that Gilmer/Cuero game last year in Huntsville, was a classic. Daingerfield played earlier at San Jac, so I made both games.

I hope someone can atleast give these two teams (Daingerfield/BW) some competition. I don't see it happening against Daingerfield .

We gave them more than they wanted....in the last 3 seasons, Daingerfiel has 3 defeats (1 / season) & guess to who....Go Bucks!!

[Deuce]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Well, you didn't hold Lee Clubb, I can guarantee you that. Clubb is not on the same universe with Gray. We have played against Clubb several times, and I have seen Gray play several times. Not even close boys and girls.
Leaving your game the other night; Guys, I was impressed. Offense is unbelievable. Defense, not so much.
However, I was equally impressed watching Gilmer last year, and Carthage the year before that. '83 Dangerfield, well...the best of all time, no doubt. Seen enough old video to know that.
I think it's great how much you guys support your team. Hell, I wish there were a hundred Argyle poster's on here pumping up the Eagles. But, after seeing it for my self, you guys have to get a little perspective. Best team in 3A this year...most likely, Best team in 3A ever.....no way (the Vernon teams with Derrick Richardson and Dexter Butler would beat you and the SLC teams with Dane Johnson in 3A beat them), middle of the pack in 4A.....absolutely.

Richardson and Butler were STUDS!

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by Deuce
Richardson and Butler were STUDS!

Amen.

[BwdLions]

Daingerfield may be the best defensive team in the history of high school football. My guess is they were really good at stopping a running team, or a balanced offense. To my knowledge most teams back in the early 80s couldn't throw it like some of the teams these days. So before some of you who "think you know" who would win this game, don't have a clue. No one does.

[Pendragon13]

If you could get the 10 Lions in a time machine and go back to play the 83 Daingerfield team with 80's era refs and rules....I'm not sure BW would survive. Keep in mind that helmet to helmet was only flagged back then if it occured after the whistle....and concussions were called "getting your bell rung" and most players would go back in after a few plays and rounds of smelling salts.;) Players today may be more skilled in the nuances of the game...but I'm not sure they are as tough as players back then.

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
If you could get the 10 Lions in a time machine and go back to play the 83 Daingerfield team with 80's era refs and rules....I'm not sure BW would survive. Keep in mind that helmet to helmet was only flagged back then if it occured after the whistle....and concussions were called "getting your bell rung" and most players would go back in after a few plays and rounds of smelling salts.;) Players today may be more skilled in the nuances of the game...but I'm not sure they are as tough as players back then.

There's no doubt that players from that era (83 Daingerfield team) would be tougher than most players of today. I know because I played back then. :D

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by BwdLions
Daingerfield may be the best defensive team in the history of high school football. My guess is they were really good at stopping a running team, or a balanced offense. To my knowledge most teams back in the early 80s couldn't throw it like some of the teams these days. So before some of you who "think you know" who would win this game, don't have a clue. No one does. The best way to disrupt an awesome passing team is to disprupt the passes before they even get started. It appears that 83 Daingerfield was very good at blowing into the backfield less than 2 seconds after the snap...not enough time for even good Qb's and recievers to hook up.

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by BwdLions
There's no doubt that players from that era (83 Daingerfield team) would be tougher than most players of today. I know because I played back then. :D I didn't play back then, but I've been told that concussions were treated that way, and shoulders and other appendages were often popped back into place on the sidelines and players sent back in. True or legend?

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
I didn't play back then, but I've been told that concussions were treated that way, and shoulders and other appendages were often popped back into place on the sidelines and players sent back in. True or legend?

As far as I know, there was no such thing as holding a player out for concussions, and I don't remember anyone ever being tested for a head injury. You just went back in the game a few plays later. Unless you had something broken or was just not able to walk, you kept going back in the game. I don't know about Brownwood, but heard many times of players getting shots in knees (and other joints) so they couldn't feel pain. Of course when the medicine wore off later in the day, you really felt it.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BwdLions
Daingerfield may be the best defensive team in the history of high school football. My guess is they were really good at stopping a running team, or a balanced offense. To my knowledge most teams back in the early 80s couldn't throw it like some of the teams these days. So before some of you who "think you know" who would win this game, don't have a clue. No one does.


I said it earlier

I saw both play..alot of people say well D-Field did not face spread teams..and that is true, but the thing is, the strength of that D might very well have been the back part of that D with Rodney Mims, Johnny Hendrix, and Eric Everett in the secondary and Ladd Freeman at LB...then add Victor Edmond on the DL with Guy Searcy..this defense was as special as Bwood' offense is now...but here is the thing that gets lost..the D-Field O was pretty damn good as well

they had a great OL led by Willie Everett and Mike McCurdy( both All State

their offense scored 631 points for a team that was more about defense..

I just think as much as I love Bwood's team this year, that 1983 team is still in a little bit higher level

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I said it earlier

I saw both play..alot of people say well D-Field did not face spread teams..and that is true, but the thing is, the strength of that D might very well have been the back part of that D with Rodney Mims, Johnny Hendrix, and Eric Everett in the secondary and Ladd Freeman at LB...then add Victor Edmond on the DL with Guy Searcy..this defense was as special as Bwood' offense is now...but here is the thing that gets lost..the D-Field O was pretty damn good as well

they had a great OL led by Willie Everett and Mike McCurdy( both All State

their offense scored 631 points for a team that was more about defense..

I just think as much as I love Bwood's team this year, that 1983 team is still in a little bit higher level
I'll definitely have to agree with you on this. It would definitely be hard to beat that defense even with today's spread offenses. It would be extremely hard to pass the ball when you have 2 or 3 players in your face as soon as the ball gets to the QB. That, coupled with the fastest, best cover corners I've ever seen on a high school team would make it next to impossible to have any consistent success offensively against them. I had a chance to ask somebody who played on that team (a starting LB) if he thought today's offenses would've scored on them, and true to form, he just laughed and said, "No!" While I didn't necessarily agree with him, I still believe that defense would've shut down 95% of today's offenses 95% of time.

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I said it earlier

I saw both play..alot of people say well D-Field did not face spread teams..and that is true, but the thing is, the strength of that D might very well have been the back part of that D with Rodney Mims, Johnny Hendrix, and Eric Everett in the secondary and Ladd Freeman at LB...then add Victor Edmond on the DL with Guy Searcy..this defense was as special as Bwood' offense is now...but here is the thing that gets lost..the D-Field O was pretty damn good as well

they had a great OL led by Willie Everett and Mike McCurdy( both All State

their offense scored 631 points for a team that was more about defense..

I just think as much as I love Bwood's team this year, that 1983 team is still in a little bit higher level

That Daingerfield team was great. I'm just glad we're not playing that team tonight. No offense Bridgeport. :D

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by Deuce
Richardson and Butler were STUDS!


No doubt!

[cowboyandchrist]

Originally posted by Snotbubbles
I seen that '83 and '09 Tiger team play several times. Have not seen BW ever play, so---really can't say who would win.

Must be fair here.
I did see the 83 Dangerfield Tigers play, believe me no team will ever be that good not just 3a but any class. Here is something to chew on. There were 560 offensive plays run against that Defense in 16 games for a grand total of 560 FEET, that's right folks every play run only gained 12 inches. 4A Kilgore got 2 points on a safety when ball snapped over the punters head into the end zone. Carthage scored on an interception. No team scored on that Defense. Brownwood would not score on the Dangerfield D. The team was a freak of highschool football nature. 2010 Brownwood would beat the 09 Tigers easy.

[waterboy]

Actually, I hate to correct you on that Carthage TD, but it was actually a pass play by Carthage on a fake punt that was tipped by the Tiger corner (almost intercepted, probably should've been) and landed in the hands of the receiver. That was also early in the year (3rd game), and was the only TD, and the last team to score against them that season. They proceeded to shut out the last thirteen opponents en route to the state championship. They shut out 14 of their 16 opponents.

[cowboyandchrist]

Originally posted by waterboy
Actually, I hate to correct you on that Carthage TD, but it was actually a pass play by Carthage on a fake punt that was tipped by the Tiger corner (almost intercepted, probably should've been) and landed in the hands of the receiver. That was also early in the year (3rd game), and was the only TD, and the last team to score against them that season. They proceeded to shut out the last thirteen opponents en route to the state championship. They shut out 14 of their 16 opponents.
Your are correct, I ask one of the players(now a coach) at Tatum and that is what happened. Carthage that year had Roscoe Tatum running the ball. He is the same guy that beat Carl Louis in the 100 meters in Dallas. Carthage played in the 83 4A simi finals.

[91 lion]

Originally posted by griff
Brownwood hasn't won the state title. Daingerfield did. If and until they do, THEN would be the time to begin making comparisons like this.

+1
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by Gobbler Fan
Sorry but Brownwood would get smashed like a grape and made into wine in this matchup . :devil: I concur.