Dal Vs Nyg

[eagleqb_14]

will the boys go 1-5

[Bull's-eye]

Good read about the Cowboys and their penalty problems. Dallas is on pace to set a record for most penalties, but their opponents are on pace for the fewest. Those 5 teams average over 7 penalties a game, but were only called for 4.2 penalties against the Cowboys. One former official thought the celebration penalties shouldn't of been called. The last one was called against Miles Austin, but later we were told it was against Sam Hurd for doing the Hook'em Horns sign.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/editorial.cfm?id=D62876CC-956E-FCD5-E269A52FC70892D6&page=1&endPoints=4352%2C8697%2C10138

[crzyjournalist03]

Vegas likes the Cowboys for no apparent reason.

I've got a serious inkling that all the money is coming in on the Giants. On ESPN.com, it's 64% for the Giants. Granted, that's not people betting money, but the money in Vegas probably isn't far from that

Vegas has been making money doing this for decades, so I think they know what they're talking about.

I'm taking the Cowboys to cover. The line is just too weird. I think Vegas knows something.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

i wont be suprise when the Cowboys completely handle the Giants tonight to get the playoff hopes going again

[carter08]

Bradshaw runs for 230 and 4 TD's. I manage a come from behind win in my fantasy league this week.

[neck_06]

COWBOYS!! COWBOYS!! COWBOYS!! :mad: :foul: :mad: :foul:

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by carter08
Bradshaw runs for 230 and 4 TD's. I manage a come from behind win in my fantasy league this week. Yeah...I've got M. Austin and B. Jacobs left to go and am 30pts behind. :(

[neck_06]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Yeah...I've got M. Austin and B. Jacobs left to go and am 30pts behind. :(

Jacobs has gotten most of the goal line carries the past few weeks...you've got a chance!!

[zebrablue2]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
i wont be suprise when the Cowboys completely handle the Giants tonight to get the playoff hopes going again


:iagree: Cowboys by 10!!

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Yeah...I've got M. Austin and B. Jacobs left to go and am 30pts behind. :(

ha...I'm down 70 with Romo and Austin...so unless Austin repeats Kenny Britt's performance from yesterday, I'm screwed.

[Farmersfan]

So far so good! Newman drops a sure int and then turns around and gets one on the next play! Maybe the 'boys luck is changing.

[coach]

Finally Dallas's D creates a Turnover and Dallas' O scores without any problems.

[GrTigers6]

Again? WOW!!!

[GrTigers6]

Come on Barber stop running out bounds

[GrTigers6]

:doh: :doh: :doh:

[Txbroadcaster]

amazing how much better the O looks when D gives em short fields

Austin should made that catch

[GrTigers6]

yep. That ball was right on the money but farmersfan would say that romo missed and austin had to make a great adjustment just to touch it. :D

[Farmersfan]

We have to have TD's 'boys! FGs won't get it done! Ecspecially when you are handed the ball inside the 20................

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
We have to have TD's 'boys! FGs won't get it done! Ecspecially when you are handed the ball inside the 20................


yep Austin usually makes that one and has to right there

[Farmersfan]

Newman FINALLY makes a play and then gets hurt.

[GrTigers6]

yep thats about right!

[GrTigers6]

That was an aweful spot!

[Farmersfan]

Replay is not doing it's job a lot these days! It was pretty obvious he didn't make the 1st down...........

[GrTigers6]

Absolutely

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Replay is not doing it's job a lot these days! It was pretty obvious he didn't make the 1st down...........


it was close..the problem is where he was hit, not where he ended up because of forward mo..very close

[coach]

bs call cost dallas once again....

[Txbroadcaster]

and the game is on..D got beat on the ground and the air on that drive

[GrTigers6]

well at least we get to see the offense now

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
and the game is on..D got beat on the ground and the air on that drive


I didn't see the Giants do anything on the ground.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I didn't see the Giants do anything on the ground.

20 yards of the 76 yd drive was rushing

[Txbroadcaster]

ok Miles twice now

[GrTigers6]

nice!!!

[coach]

catch the damn ball miles...holy crap

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by coach
catch the damn ball miles...holy crap Amen

[eagles_victory]

too high? too high? Come on Jaws that is a good throw it must be caught.

[Txbroadcaster]

THANK U D

this is wht turovers are so big..when a D cant make stops they can forces the turnovers instead

Giants 4 drives..3 Turnovers 1 TD

[coach]

come on O lets get a td out of this....

[eagles_victory]

Miles cant catch... bring back that Owens guy. :D

[Txbroadcaster]

Farmer will be happy now

[coach]

you happy now farmersfan and all the romo haters....if hes done for a while then dallas is def. done.....

[SintonFan_inAustin]

there goes my fantasy points

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by coach
you happy now farmersfan and all the romo haters....if hes done for a while then dallas is def. done..... Come on lets give Kitna a chance he is a solid backup much better than ole checkdown.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by coach
you happy now farmersfan and all the romo haters....if hes done for a while then dallas is def. done.....

I like Kitna for a game or two, he can still fling it..but ur right if this is a 4-5 game deal then Dallas might be done

[coach]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I like Kitna for a game or two, he can still fling it..but ur right if this is a 4-5 game deal then Dallas might be done

i guess hes better than checkdown

[SintonFan_inAustin]

is that 5 qbs Giants have knock out this season?

[coach]

Originally posted by coach
i guess hes better than checkdown

nevermind....

[Txbroadcaster]

anyone want to claim Romo is not tough needs to watch him trying to get back in the game

[coach]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
anyone want to claim Romo is not tough needs to watch him trying to get back in the game

hes not a leader....blah blah blah.... kid gets hurt and he has to be pulled back not to play.....

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
anyone want to claim Romo is not tough needs to watch him trying to get back in the game Unless its like Greg Goldberg against Italy having no intentions of going back in just telling the coaches/fellow players to hold him back so it looks good.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I like Kitna for a game or two, he can still fling it..but ur right if this is a 4-5 game deal then Dallas might be done


And how is that different than when Romo was in there??????????? Remember Romo is 1-4 right now.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And how is that different than when Romo was in there??????????? Remember Romo is 1-4 right now.

ok Farmer whatever

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
hes not a leader....blah blah blah.... kid gets hurt and he has to be pulled back not to play.....

He's not a kid! He's older than you are Coach!!!!!

[Keith7]

Romo is garbage .. cowgirls are better off with Kitna

[GrTigers6]

We needed that!!

[Txbroadcaster]

This game might be over if not for the two Austin drops

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
He's not a kid! He's older than you are Coach!!!!!

lol i call everyone kid esp. sports players

[Farmersfan]

That's Dez's second return for a TD! The other was called back on a penalty but still very impressive.............

[coach]

Originally posted by Keith7
Romo is garbage .. cowgirls are better off with Kitna

better than filly.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Keith7
Romo is garbage .. cowgirls are better off with Kitna Boy you really have no clue do you. Lorna sucks or he wouldn't have been a starter and now a back up for two years

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
This game might be over if not for the two Austin drops



Both drops were drive killers!

Correction: The first one cost them 4 points.

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And how is that different than when Romo was in there??????????? Remember Romo is 1-4 right now.

and after tonight he will be 2 -4 and he has the 6th best passer ratin in the league right now. if you seriously think they are better off with kitna than you might be the stupidest person ive ever known

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
That's Dez's second return for a TD! The other was called back on a penalty but still very impressive.............

yep he would have THREE punt returns for TDs if not for a penalty..he is not flashy like Dante Hall or Devin Hester but dang he is effective

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And how is that different than when Romo was in there??????????? Remember Romo is 1-4 right now. no. 1 rated QB nfc this season.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And how is that different than when Romo was in there??????????? Remember Romo is 1-4 right now. Yeah and Kitna is 0- for how many?

[Txbroadcaster]

Dallas D lets Giants off the mat

[coach]

the boys d is awful...they cant stop anyone....they have had 3 to's fall in their lap, which i am very thankful for, but the giants have done whatever and whenever they have wanted tonight.

[Txbroadcaster]

The Dallas secondary just does not make plays..the two ints were gifts..other than that no faith in them when ball is in the air

[Txbroadcaster]

Calling it now..Game is done unless Romo can come back in

[eagles_victory]

The way this defense is playing it may not matter. Can't stop them.

[coach]

again dallas' defense sucks

[Txbroadcaster]

Giants are averaging 7 yards a play..Dallas D not stopping the run or the pass

[coach]

dallas is done....romo has a fractured clavicle...you are about to see why romo was and should be the starter

[MesquiteFan]

I would love to see some Stephen McGee in there, but rules dictate that since he's the third QB, if he comes in, neither of the first two QB's are eligible to return. And then if the Giants knocked out McGee, then we're screwed. Stupid rule.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
dallas is done....romo has a fractured clavicle...you are about to see why romo was and should be the starter




I think Kitna will probably be able to win 1 of the next 5 games to keep pace with Romo!!!!!

[coach]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
I would love to see some Stephen McGee in there, but rules dictate that since he's the third QB, if he comes in, neither of the first two QB's are eligible to return. And then if the Giants knocked out McGee, then we're screwed. Stupid rule.

no they can return if he gets hurt

[Keith7]

They could always run the wild hog or whatever that dumb formation is they used to run with Choice taking the direct snap.. LOLOLOLOLOL

[MesquiteFan]

Cowboys season is over, folks.

:clap:

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I think Kitna will probably be able to win 1 of the next 5 games to keep pace with Romo!!!!!

Farmer..really dude? I know we debate and have fun battling, but if you honestly first think the reason Dallas is 1-4 is Romo and 2nd think Kitna can lead this team the rest of the season then I dont know what to say

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by coach
no they can return if he gets hurt

Yeah, you're right. Forgot that part of the rule.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
I would love to see some Stephen McGee in there, but rules dictate that since he's the third QB, if he comes in, neither of the first two QB's are eligible to return. And then if the Giants knocked out McGee, then we're screwed. Stupid rule.



The Cowboys were done with or without Romo! Looks like the defense has decided to play like the offense has played for over a year now. I would love them to get McGee some playing time to see if he might be the QB of the future.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
The Cowboys were done with or without Romo! Looks like the defense has decided to play like the offense has played for over a year now. I would love them to get McGee some playing time to see if he might be the QB of the future.

Or you mean the D has decided to play basically how they have played all year..not making big plays..and dont give me two ints, those were gifts that the D did nothing but happen to catch off of tips

just look at Jay Cutler's season..now look at what he did agianst the supposed dominant D of Dallas

Sad thing was..if this D was as dominant as they are supposed to be they could actually get thru the rest of season without Romo, but sadly they cant

[eagles_victory]

Cant play Stephen Mcgee that is the point in having a veteran backup. If you planned on putting Mcgee in when Romo got hurt without giving Kitna a chance why even waste the money to have him on the roster. At least give the guy a chance Vince Young or Mike Vick couldnt of avoided that last sack and now he is a "statue".

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
The Cowboys were done with or without Romo! Looks like the defense has decided to play like the offense has played for over a year now. I would love them to get McGee some playing time to see if he might be the QB of the future.

I don't understand the hate for Romo? The guy won the first playoff game in 13 years in Dallas and is one of the best, if not the best, QBs in the NFC. Can you really say the Cowboys would be better off with a QB the LIONS didn't even want? C'mon, the LIONS didn't want him!!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

6 point,7 point, 6 points and 3 points losses with Romo and now i dont see anymore close games.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Farmer..really dude? I know we debate and have fun battling, but if you honestly first think the reason Dallas is 1-4 is Romo and 2nd think Kitna can lead this team the rest of the season then I dont know what to say



Romo is PART of the reason Dallas is 1-4! Just like Kitna will be part of the reason Dallas will go 1-4 the next 5 games! What's to understand?

[Keith7]

Really as an Eagles fan, Kitna scares me. I mean with Romo you knew the cowgirls were going to falter. They just aren't that good with him at QB but Kitna is a bit of a wildcard. He makes the team more talented.

[coach]

Originally posted by Keith7
Really as an Eagles fan, Kitna scares me. I mean with Romo you knew the cowgirls were going to falter. They just aren't that good with him at QB but Kitna is a bit of a wildcard. He makes the team more talented.

so are you saying he faltered 3 times last year?

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by Keith7
Really as an Eagles fan, Kitna scares me. I mean with Romo you knew the cowgirls were going to falter. They just aren't that good with him at QB but Kitna is a bit of a wildcard. He makes the team more talented.

Sorry, but this post makes no sense to me. Kitna couldn't start for the Detroit Lions. Romo is a winner. The problem with Dallas is defense and penalties.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Cant play Stephen Mcgee that is the point in having a veteran backup. If you planned on putting Mcgee in when Romo got hurt without giving Kitna a chance why even waste the money to have him on the roster. At least give the guy a chance Vince Young or Mike Vick couldnt of avoided that last sack and now he is a "statue".

Kitna is here as a short-term fill-in. Broken clavicles generally aren't short-term deals. It's highly possible that Romo is out for the season. Kitna might be adequate for 1-2 games, but if Romo is done, there's no since in using Kitna because the season is done. Might as well see if the kid has anything in him.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
6 point,7 point, 6 points and 3 points losses with Romo and now i dont see anymore close games.



That's just my point! What the hell difference does it make if they lose by 40 points or if they lose by 1 point? It's still a loss and they are still 1-5 after tonight.

[MesquiteFan]

The worst part of losing Romo might be that Jerry Jones won't admit that the Cowboys are at rock bottom now. The injury might have saved Wade Phillips.

[Keith7]

Originally posted by coach
so are you saying he faltered 3 times last year?

typical cowgirl fan living in the past :doh: :doh:

[Keith7]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
The worst part of losing Romo might be that Jerry Jones won't admit that the Cowboys are at rock bottom now. The injury might have saved Wade Phillips.

But but but everything is bigger in Texas!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Txbroadcaster]

No one will call out Witten..but he has sucked this year IMO with penalties and just does not seem to be in the game

[coach]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
No one will call out Witten..but he has sucked this year IMO with penalties and just does not seem to be in the game

i have been saying this the last 2 years...and imo he is the main reason TO was cut

[GrTigers6]

So Keith7 and Farmersfan, Did Romo sleep with your wives or what because that is the only explanation for your hatred for Romo. :D :D
Seriously if you two think Kitna is better than Romo than why didnt the 0-16 lions want him?

[95mustang]

Get ready for punts, punts, and more punts. Might even mix around an interception or two. Kitna is not the answer.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
No one will call out Witten..but he has sucked this year IMO with penalties and just does not seem to be in the game I agree TX

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
No one will call out Witten..but he has sucked this year IMO with penalties and just does not seem to be in the game


agreed but that last throw was out of his reach. He is not the weapon he once was though

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
So Keith7 and Farmersfan, Did Romo sleep with your wives or what because that is the only explanation for your hatred for Romo. :D :D
Seriously if you two think Kitna is better than Romo than why didnt the 0-16 lions want him?

Thank you!! This is what I've been saying :clap:

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by 95mustang
Get ready for punts, punts, and more punts. Might even mix around an interception or two. Kitna is not the answer. Neither was Romo this year obviously. 1-4?

[coach]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Neither was Romo this year obviously. 1-4?

how are you blaming romo for the 1-4 start lol...

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Neither was Romo this year obviously. 1-4? Romo is no where near the reason the cowboys are 1-4

[MesquiteFan]

That was atrocious tackling..

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by coach
how are you blaming romo for the 1-4 start lol... That missed tackle right there was Romo's fault. Duh :rolleyes:

LoL. :D

[GrTigers6]

Nice block in the back noncall! typical if the cowboys would have done it then they would have thrown the flag

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
So Keith7 and Farmersfan, Did Romo sleep with your wives or what because that is the only explanation for your hatred for Romo. :D :D
Seriously if you two think Kitna is better than Romo than why didnt the 0-16 lions want him?




Did you just wake up GrTigers6? This has been explained at least a million times! And it's not hatred of Romo! It's simply recognizing the truth. Romo is better than Kitna! But that's kind of like claiming to be the smartest person on the short bus! It just don't mean much.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
Romo is no where near the reason the cowboys are 1-4 no...but he's part of the equation.

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Did you just wake up GrTigers6? This has been explained at least a million times! And it's not hatred of Romo! It's simply recognizing the truth. Romo is better than Kitna! But that's kind of like claiming to be the smartest person on the short bus! It just don't mean much.

or like claiming i am smarter than farmersfan

[95mustang]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
Neither was Romo this year obviously. 1-4?

His stats prove otherwise. I do not believe for a second that the blame lies directly on him. Sorry, but he doesn't play on defense, and he isn't the one getting all the flags. Nice try though. :rolleyes:

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Did you just wake up GrTigers6? This has been explained at least a million times! And it's not hatred of Romo! It's simply recognizing the truth. Romo is better than Kitna! But that's kind of like claiming to be the smartest person on the short bus! It just don't mean much. No but apparently you are stuck in a time where Kitna was good although I cant even remember that time and i'm 41:D

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by 95mustang
His stats prove otherwise. I do not believe for a second that the blame lies directly on him. Sorry, but he doesn't play on defense, and he isn't the one getting all the flags. Nice try though. :rolleyes: LOL!! defensive Romo loving Cowboy fan is the funniest fan in the NFL. :clap:

[MesquiteFan]

This might get ugly...

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
Romo is no where near the reason the cowboys are 1-4



And yet everyone is saying Kitna will be the reason Dallas goes 1-4 the next 5 games!!!

[GrTigers6]

this conservative crap is ridiculous.

[GrTigers6]

BOY KITNA IS FREAKING AWESOME:doh:

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
BOY KITNA IS FREAKING AWESOME:doh:

I seriously can't understand why the Lions cut him before they went 0-16..

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And yet everyone is saying Kitna will be the reason Dallas goes 1-4 the next 5 games!!!


no what people are saying is without Romo there is NO CHANCE to win..unless something turns around Dallas might start losing a bunch of games 35-7

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And yet everyone is saying Kitna will be the reason Dallas goes 1-4 the next 5 games!!! no Kitna will be the reason the cowboys dont win another game till romo comes back

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
no what people are saying is without Romo there is NO CHANCE to win..unless something turns around Dallas might start losing a bunch of games 35-7 Are you planning on a defensive score or some more punt returns by Bryant? :D

[95mustang]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
LOL!! defensive Romo loving Cowboy fan is the funniest fan in the NFL. :clap:

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but I am not a Romo loving fan. I am a Cowboys fan, and Romo is their best chance of winning. Love him or hate him I don't care but blaming him for this crap we have shoved down our throat by the Cowboys this year I don't agree with. I will agree to disagree with you.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

put in that 3a QB, this game is lost get him some playing time even if he gets sacked or intercepted.

[Txbroadcaster]

This might be the worst Defense Dallas has had since the 5-11 days

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
put in that 3a QB, this game is lost get him some playing time even if he gets sacked or intercepted.

The more I think about it, the more I think that would be the wrong move for the Cowboys. It would be admitting they don't really know what to do with Romo out. At least they can unite around Kitna and maybe somehow come together. Putting McGee in would show uncertainty and create controversy.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
This might be the worst Defense Dallas has had since the 5-11 days yet some how they were rank 3rd :doh:


they look like the 30th rank team right now.l

[GrTigers6]

they cant cover anything

[MesquiteFan]

Hey farmer, were those missed tackles Romo's fault too?

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
No but apparently you are stuck in a time where Kitna was good although I cant even remember that time and i'm 41:D


What is your malfunction? I have NEVER said Kitna was good! All I said was that even Kitna could led this team to a 1-4 record the next 5 games just like Romo has the past 5 games. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
yet some how they were rank 3rd :doh:


they look like the 30th rank team right now.l

one of the reasons they ranked 3rd was Dallas even with lack of scoring held on to the ball and led the league with TOP..that kept the D off the field

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
The more I think about it, the more I think that would be the wrong move for the Cowboys. It would be admitting they don't really know what to do with Romo out. At least they can unite around Kitna and maybe somehow come together. Putting McGee in would show uncertainty and create controversy. 1-4 and soon to be 1-5 the season is over without a 1st string qb, i understand what your saying but they're not 3-3 with a chance to make the playoffs.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
Hey farmer, were those missed tackles Romo's fault too? stop throwing more logs into the fire, hes loving that you keep bringing up Romo name.

[GrTigers6]

I am now on the band wagon of firing the coaches and starting over because they have no desire to play at all and the season is over anyway so start over early for next year

[eagleqb_14]

well 1-5:(

[crzyjournalist03]

The Cowboys quit tonight. Plain and simple.

Romo went down and took the heart of the team with him. Maybe he was more of a leader than anybody ever gave him credit for.

What I'm watching right now is pure garbage. Pathetic, gutless, effortless garbage.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
This might be the worst Defense Dallas has had since the 5-11 days




And where does this offense rank that has scored just 13 points off of turnovers in the Giants Red Zone?????????

Dallas offense: 28 plays for 78 total yards.

[95mustang]

Man when is Romo going to start covering the receivers and tackling?

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And where does this offense rank that has scored just 13 points off of turnovers in the Giants Red Zone?????????

Dallas offense: 28 plays for 78 total yards.

hard to tell now because of Romo being out..and actually it was 10 points on turnovers in RZ( with Austin dropping what should have been a TD)..the other drive started at the 40( Romo completed the pass he was hit on).

I know this..if the Dallas D was soooo good, the 20 points Dallas scored in the game should have been enough

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And where does this offense rank that has scored just 13 points off of turnovers in the Giants Red Zone?????????

Dallas offense: 28 plays for 78 total yards. yeah that is playcalling and dropped passes. not romo.
and what has kitna done but get sacked and miss recievers

[3afan]

cowboys have quit - wade needs to go

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
The Cowboys quit tonight. Plain and simple.

Romo went down and took the heart of the team with him. Maybe he was more of a leader than anybody ever gave him credit for.

What I'm watching right now is pure garbage. Pathetic, gutless, effortless garbage. kind of like the Giants towards the end of last year. It'll be interesting to see what Jerry has to say about the rest of the season.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by 3afan
cowboys have quit - wade needs to go For the first time i agree

[SintonFan_inAustin]

think i heard, Lets go Rangers!


Rangers delivered the knock out punch to the high profile Yankees and the Giants have delivered the knockout punch to the high profile Cowboys :(

[sinfan75]

Dallas problem is not ONE player is steppin up tryin to be a leader. Tell me I'm wrong!!

[MesquiteFan]

Originally posted by 3afan
cowboys have quit - wade needs to go

I agree but who do you bring in to be the coach that Jerry will actually let coach?

[skins4life]

Is it too late to vote in this poll?:devil:

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by skins4life
Is it too late to vote in this poll?:devil: I dont know can I change mine? :D

[skins4life]

Originally posted by MesquiteFan
I agree but who do you bring in to be the coach that Jerry will actually let coach?

He needs a Mini-Me. That's the only way he'll be happy.

[IHStangFan]

Originally posted by 95mustang
Sorry to burst your bubble here, but I am not a Romo loving fan. I am a Cowboys fan, and Romo is their best chance of winning. Love him or hate him I don't care but blaming him for this crap we have shoved down our throat by the Cowboys this year I don't agree with. I will agree to disagree with you. let me repeat myself, as you must have missed it the first time.....I'm not BLAMING Romo solely, but he IS part of the multifaceted equation that has lead to the Cowturds being 1-4. Simple fact of the matter is...they were in disarray BEFORE he went down w/ injury..and now they're REALLY screwed. The problems in Dallas start at the tip top and trickle downward.

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by IHStangFan
let me repeat myself, as you must have missed it the first time.....I'm not BLAMING Romo solely, but he IS part of the multifaceted equation that has lead to the Cowturds being 1-4. Simple fact of the matter is...they were in disarray BEFORE he went down w/ injury..and now they're REALLY screwed. The problems in Dallas start at the tip top and trickle downward. problem is disipline and the lack of leadership in coaching defense offense, you name it. they have no leadership anywhere. not even in mangement.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

would a comeback help have faith for the rest of the season or is it over even if they comeback in this game?

[95mustang]

So much for that drive. Oh and comeback. :spitlol:

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by 95mustang
So much for that drive. Oh and comeback. :spitlol:

shame is if Kitna could have done anything tonight, Dallas could have still won this game. The Giants let Dallas have way too many chances tonight.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
shame is if Kitna could have done anything tonight, Dallas could have still won this game. The Giants let Dallas have way too many chances tonight.


or if the D would not have given up 500 yards of offense and 38 points

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
shame is if Kitna could have done anything tonight, Dallas could have still won this game. The Giants let Dallas have way too many chances tonight. Offensive line was horrible he did what he could putting this on Kitna is just plain dumb.

[Eagle 1]

I guess the only bright side tonight was the special teams play.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Offensive line was horrible he did what he could putting this on Kitna is just plain dumb.

not putting it all on Kitna...but he had some horrible throws throughout the third quarter. He didn't even pick up a first down until the Giants went into a prevent D.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
not putting it all on Kitna...but he had some horrible throws throughout the third quarter. He didn't even pick up a first down until the Giants went into a prevent D. Give up 41 points there is only one way to point the finger.

[Txbroadcaster]

the 20 points Dallas had in the first half should have been enough for this supposed dominant dallas D

[95mustang]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
Offensive line was horrible he did what he could putting this on Kitna is just plain dumb.

As is puting it all on Romo.

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by 95mustang
As is puting it all on Romo. Agreed you will never hear me blaming it on Romo.

[slpybear the bullfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
shame is if Kitna could have done anything tonight, Dallas could have still won this game. The Giants let Dallas have way too many chances tonight.

Maybe he could have played Defensive end. Or safety.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
Maybe he could have played Defensive end. Or safety.

maybe if he wouldn't have gone 3 and out on every single possession from the time he entered until the fourth quarter, the defense might have had a break and could have played a little better.

Let's not forget that the defense did come up with three turnovers in the first half.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
the 20 points Dallas had in the first half should have been enough for this supposed dominant dallas D Zactly! I personally don't see why anyone would even want Phillips as a DC after this season. Campo is useless as well. Scandrick is a wash out too.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
maybe if he wouldn't have gone 3 and out on every single possession from the time he entered until the fourth quarter, the defense might have had a break and could have played a little better.

Let's not forget that the defense did come up with three turnovers in the first half.

Crzy..did u not see the ole ole the D played in that 3rd Q?..yes I can see them being tired, but there was NO EFFORT, the coaches and players even admit that

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Crzy..did u not see the ole ole the D played in that 3rd Q?..yes I can see them being tired, but there was NO EFFORT, the coaches and players even admit that




What did the offense do in the 3rd quarter TX????? You limit your criticism to the defense but the truth is the offense was just as bad if not worst than the defense! For every single failing that you can come up with for the defense I can come up with at least 2 for the offense!!!! The real problems for this defense has been pretty sporatic. but the offense has under-performed pretty consistently for over a year now!

[bobcat1]

The argument was that bringing in a new coach NOW would hurt the rest of the season. What about now? I say fire them all and hire a goodun!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
What did the offense do in the 3rd quarter TX????? You limit your criticism to the defense but the truth is the offense was just as bad if not worst than the defense! For every single failing that you can come up with for the defense I can come up with at least 2 for the offense!!!! The real problems for this defense has been pretty sporatic. but the offense has under-performed pretty consistently for over a year now!


The offense/special team put 20 points on the board in the first half..that should have been enough plain and simple

The problems for the defense has not been "sporadic" they have been a theme this year

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The offense/special team put 20 points on the board in the first half..that should have been enough plain and simple

The problems for the defense has not been "sporadic" they have been a theme this year





This defense held Washington, Chicago, Houston and Minny below their offensive averages for the season! That was with 6 offensive TO in the Dallas zone against just Chicago and Minny! (THATS 6) The only two team that had more success against this defense than they have every week is Tennesee (by just 19 yards) and the Giants. The defense had to overcome 5 turnovers in those 2 games. So by my count that is 4 out of the 6 games that the defense held their own! But the offense on the other hand gave up 11 short field advantages in 4 of those games. The only 2 games that the offense didn't turn the ball over in was Washington and Houston and the defense gave up 13 pts to each of those teams!!!! Take away the offensive turnovers and this defense has beaten every team they have played except for the Giants and for some reason the Giants offense has owned this Dallas defense for a couple of years now it seems!

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
What did the offense do in the 3rd quarter TX????? You limit your criticism to the defense but the truth is the offense was just as bad if not worst than the defense! For every single failing that you can come up with for the defense I can come up with at least 2 for the offense!!!! The real problems for this defense has been pretty sporatic. but the offense has under-performed pretty consistently for over a year now! Ok, a sporadic offense that beat an eagles team three times in one year. plus the super bowl champs

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
This defense held Washington, Chicago, Houston and Minny below their offensive averages for the season! !

Chicago is scoring 18 points a game scored 27 agianst Dallas

Minny scoring 18.5 a game...scored 24 agianst Dallas

Tennesee scoring 27 a game..scored 34

Giants scoring 25 a game scored 41

So ur right...out of 6 games Dallas D has held two teams below their ppg

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
Ok, a sporadic offense that beat an eagles team three times in one year. plus the super bowl champs



And I guess the defense stayed at home during those wins?????

In the 3 wins against Philly the defense gave up 30 total points!
In the win aginst the superbowl champs this defense gave up 17 points to the #1 ranked offense in the NFL! There is NO possible way to show this defense as not the biggest reason the Cowboys went 11-5 last season. The defense carried this team more often than not. This season? Not so much!

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Chicago is scoring 18 points a game scored 27 agianst Dallas

Minny scoring 18.5 a game...scored 24 agianst Dallas

Tennesee scoring 27 a game..scored 34

Giants scoring 25 a game scored 41

So ur right...out of 6 games Dallas D has held two teams below their ppg



WITH 11 TURNOVERS BY THE OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!

The two games that the offense didn't turn the ball over were the two games the defense didn't give up yards or points! I guess your statement about how important turnovers are for an offense doesn't apply when it's YOUR offense turning it over the other team? You claim the offense couldn't score because the defense didn't get turnovers because turnovers make it so much easier on the offenses but then you claim the defense is bad because they can't overcome the dallas offenses turnovers! You are certainly a peice of work TX.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
WITH 11 TURNOVERS BY THE OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!

The two games that the offense didn't turn the ball over were the two games the defense didn't give up yards or points! I guess your statement about how important turnovers are for an offense doesn't apply when it's YOUR offense turning it over the other team? You claim the offense couldn't score because the defense didn't get turnovers because turnovers make it so much easier on the offenses but then you claim the defense is bad because they can't overcome the dallas offenses turnovers! You are certainly a peice of work TX.


And check the yardage in those games! Short field scores added up a lot of those points!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
You are certainly a peice of work TX.


whatever..just debating

Look at a team like Chicago..they have turned the ball over 18 times..yet their D is 2nd in ppg

Tenn turned it over 13 times yet only given up 16 ppg

Baltimore turned it over 11 times..only 18 ppg

The Giants have turned thr ball over 21 times...yet give up less points then Dallas does



Dallas is 6th in the NFC in turnovers by offense..meaning 10 teams have turned the ball over more than Dallas has

of those 10..only ONE D is giving up more ppg than Dallas

so 9 of 10 team teams who turn the ball over more than Dallas still are giving up less points per game

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And I guess the defense stayed at home during those wins?????

In the 3 wins against Philly the defense gave up 30 total points!
In the win aginst the superbowl champs this defense gave up 17 points to the #1 ranked offense in the NFL! There is NO possible way to show this defense as not the biggest reason the Cowboys went 11-5 last season. The defense carried this team more often than not. This season? Not so much! it doesnt matter what your defense holds them too. if you cant score more than the other team you won't win. Its that simple. Yes the defense was good and absolutely a big part of why the team had a better season than the past. But you cant say the offense was mediocre with the numbers they put up.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
WITH 11 TURNOVERS BY THE OFFENSE!!!!!!!!!

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You do know that the 7 ints is 5th least in the NFC and the fumbles are the 3rd least...yes every team wants to control the TOs but you keep screaming 11 like they lead the league

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
whatever..just debating

Look at a team like Chicago..they have turned the ball over 18 times..yet their D is 2nd in ppg

Tenn turned it over 13 times yet only given up 16 ppg

Baltimore turned it over 11 times..only 18 ppg

The Giants have turned thr ball over 21 times...yet give up less points then Dallas does



Dallas is 6th in the NFC in turnovers by offense..meaning 10 teams have turned the ball over more than Dallas has

of those 10..only ONE D is giving up more ppg than Dallas

so 9 of 10 team teams who turn the ball over more than Dallas still are giving up less points per game


Would like to see Farmer's thoughts

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Would like to see Farmer's thoughts




I'm not real sure what point you are trying to make TX! What "thoughts are you after"? Nothing you posted disproves anything I said. All you showed is that this defense is allowing more points than the other defenses in the NFC you mentioned. I never said they weren't! The two teams that Dallas didn't give turnovers to scored just 13 points each. This defense is allowing the exact amount of rushing yards as it averaged last year and about 1 touchdown more per game. Guess what! The offense is giving up 1 turnover per game more than it did last year. The 1-5 record is a result of that. The defense this season certainly isn't as good as they were last season and I have said that many, many times. But I can't keep up with the number of flip flops that you are doing in your logic. You blame the defense if our offense can't score! You blame the defense if the other offenses can score! You blame the defense if our offense turns the ball over to them and they score and you blame our defense if they turn the ball over to us and we can't score ! You claim the defense should get turnovers because it makes it easier to score more points yet when the other team's defense gets turnovers from our offense and their offense scores then it's bad defense on the Cowboys! You are so dead-set on proving your point about Romo being a good QB that you attempt to deflect all blame off the offense completely! The fact remains that this offense was barely average last season (#14) in scoring points and the defense carried this team! Now the defense is struggling and this SAME team is 1-5!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I'm not real sure what point you are trying to make TX! What "thoughts are you after"? Nothing you posted disproves anything I said. All you showed is that this defense is allowing more points than the other defenses in the NFC you mentioned. I never said they weren't! The two teams that Dallas didn't give turnovers to scored just 13 points each. This defense is allowing the exact amount of rushing yards as it averaged last year and about 1 touchdown more per game. Guess what! The offense is giving up 1 turnover per game more than it did last year. The 1-5 record is a result of that. The defense this season certainly isn't as good as they were last season and I have said that many, many times. But I can't keep up with the number of flip flops that you are doing in your logic. You blame the defense if our offense can't score! You blame the defense if the other offenses can score! You blame the defense if our offense turns the ball over to them and they score and you blame our defense if they turn the ball over to us and we can't score ! You claim the defense should get turnovers because it makes it easier to score more points yet when the other team's defense gets turnovers from our offense and their offense scores then it's bad defense on the Cowboys! You are so dead-set on proving your point about Romo being a good QB that you attempt to deflect all blame off the offense completely! The fact remains that this offense was barely average last season (#14) in scoring points and the defense carried this team! Now the defense is struggling and this SAME team is 1-5!

The D is giving up 117 yards rushing..last year 90...not sure how that is the same in anyway

so Dallas has lost games by 6, 7, 3, and 6 the Dallas D is givng 10 points more this year than last year..the Dallas O? Scoring the exact same amount( which makes it a top 15 scoring offense in the NFL)

And I have never defended the Dallas O has a whole..I have said MANY MANY times the penalties and mistakes kill this offense

What I have said is the Dallas D does not help as much as you claim..yes it can put together some nice on paper games, but the simple fact when the Dallas D HAS to make a play it rarely does.


And my whole point was..u claim the Dallas turnovers are killing the Dallas D..I showed two things..first off the turnovers are one of the least in the NFC..and the fact 9 out of ten teams who have turned the ball over more times in the NFC still allow less points.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The D is giving up 117 yards rushing..last year 90...not sure how that is the same in anyway

so Dallas has lost games by 6, 7, 3, and 6 the Dallas D is givng 10 points more this year than last year..the Dallas O? Scoring the exact same amount( which makes it a top 15 scoring offense in the NFL)

And I have never defended the Dallas O has a whole..I have said MANY MANY times the penalties and mistakes kill this offense

What I have said is the Dallas D does not help as much as you claim..yes it can put together some nice on paper games, but the simple fact when the Dallas D HAS to make a play it rarely does.


And my whole point was..u claim the Dallas turnovers are killing the Dallas D..I showed two things..first off the turnovers are one of the least in the NFC..and the fact 9 out of ten teams who have turned the ball over more times in the NFC still allow less points.




So 9 out of the 10 teams that turned over the ball more have better defenses than Dallas does this year!!!!!!!!! So, What's your point? The additional points per game given up by this defense is directly proportional to the numbers of additional turnovers by the offense!
Nobody ever said the defense was good this season. Nobody ever said the defense was not responsible! But I think everyone acknowledges that the offense is as least equally responsible for this team's poor play. All I ever said was that the defense carried this team last season and now that the defense is struggling they are 1-5. I think the defense will be fine with a few minor adjustments or some confidence but they don't seem to have the character needed to overcome the turnovers in their own zone. The offense is a little more difficult to diagnose. They have the talent at most positions but it isn't showing in their performance. I think you know where I put most of the blame but only time will tell. I won't make a prediction but I think you could be very surprised at how effective Kitna will be with this offense! He is old and can't move but he was once a very productive QB in this league. Or maybe not! :D :D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
So 9 out of the 10 teams that turned over the ball more have better defenses than Dallas does this year!!!!!!!!! So, What's your point? The additional points per game given up by this defense is directly proportional to the numbers of additional turnovers by the offense!
Nobody ever said the defense was good this season. Nobody ever said the defense was not responsible! But I think everyone acknowledges that the offense is as least equally responsible for this team's poor play. All I ever said was that the defense carried this team last season and now that the defense is struggling they are 1-5. I think the defense will be fine with a few minor adjustments or some confidence but they don't seem to have the character needed to overcome the turnovers in their own zone. The offense is a little more difficult to diagnose. They have the talent at most positions but it isn't showing in their performance. I think you know where I put most of the blame but only time will tell. I won't make a prediction but I think you could be very surprised at how effective Kitna will be with this offense! He is old and can't move but he was once a very productive QB in this league. Or maybe not! :D :D

Dallas's problem on offense is simple..their O-line is not good..they are playing the wrong RB(Barber)

I have said from the moment Romo went down Kitna is a solid back up..AS LONG AS HE IS PROTECTED...If he gets rushed as much as Romo does , the Cowboys are in trouble..if SOME HOW the O line provides some protection, Kitna is capable of making the throws..also I think we will see Garrett find a new love for the running game

the one extra turnover u say Dallas giving away per game does not equal 10 points more which is the difference in Dallas D ppg last year and this year..but your right about one thing..the Dallas D does not have character and sadly we saw that for sure in 3rd Q of the Giants game

And for the record..last year Dallas O averaged 1.2 turnovers a game..this year 1.8

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster

What I have said is the Dallas D does not help as much as you claim..yes it can put together some nice on paper games, but the simple fact when the Dallas D HAS to make a play it rarely does.
.




DALLAS D WAS #2 in the NFL in Points Allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dallas D was #7 in sacks in the NFL!!!!!!
Dallas D was #9 in Yards per game allowed!!!!!!
Dallas D was #9 in Time of Possession allowed!!!!
I think the Dallas D made plenty of stops.


Why was the Dallas D in a position to "Have to make a play" whenever it did happen last season???? It was because the offense had failed to score points. For about the millionth time, You can't expect the defense to stop the other team 100% of the time. This defense stopped the other teams 90% of the time but you disrespect them because they don't get the stop the other 10% of the time. It's nonsense!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
DALLAS D WAS #2 in the NFL in Points Allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dallas D was #7 in sacks in the NFL!!!!!!
Dallas D was #9 in Yards per game allowed!!!!!!
Dallas D was #9 in Time of Possession allowed!!!!
I think the Dallas D made plenty of stops.


Why was the Dallas D in a position to "Have to make a play" whenever it did happen last season???? It was because the offense had failed to score points. For about the millionth time, You can't expect the defense to stop the other team 100% of the time. This defense stopped the other teams 90% of the time but you disrespect them because they don't get the stop the other 10% of the time. It's nonsense!

I can list the games when Dallas did not make the game changing plays if you would like

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I can list the games when Dallas did not make the game changing plays if you would like



Name one?????

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Name one?????

You want just this year? or last year as well? Actually I will do both..give me a few

[Txbroadcaster]

2009

Giants win 33-31...as bad as Romo played( and it was bad) Dallas took the lead with 3:40 to go in the game...Giants drive 11 plays for 56 yards to kick the GW FG as time expires

Denver..Game tied..Denver goes 73 yards in THREE plays with 1:01 left to win the game

Chiefs..Dallas actually wins this game but Dallas D allows Chiefs to drive 74 yards in 10 plays to score the tying TD with 24 seconds left

SD game...Dallas scores to tie the game on a 99 yd drive..SD takes over to begin the 4th Q..proceed to go 75 yards in 11 plays to take the lead

2010
Washington..Dallas is down 3 Washington proceeds to drives 10 plays for 46 yards in 4thQ and kicks the FG that made the last drive have to be a TD for Dallas

Chicago..Dallas scores on two striaght possesions..problem is The D turns around on the VERY NEXT POSSESION AFTER and allows two scoring drives as well...Game is tied 4th Q..Chicago drives 66 yards in only FOUR plays for the go ahead TD

Now this does not even take in account the lack of game changing turnovers last year and this year as well...or the fact Dallas the last two years have the worst starting position of any team in the NFL( BTW you claim not that big of a deal, yet I loved how Troy Aikman described what that does to an offense and how it affects the game plan and game itself)

The Dallas D plays great when they start out great..but as soon as they have to make a game changing drive, they have not done it enough( I can think of one off top of head..the Saints game last year)

I was listening on Satelite radio and the stat they gave was Dallas last year and this was the worst Defense in shut down drives..meaning stopping the opponent on the first drive after your offense scores.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
2009

Giants win 33-31...as bad as Romo played( and it was bad) Dallas took the lead with 3:40 to go in the game...Giants drive 11 plays for 56 yards to kick the GW FG as time expires

Denver..Game tied..Denver goes 73 yards in THREE plays with 1:01 left to win the game

Chiefs..Dallas actually wins this game but Dallas D allows Chiefs to drive 74 yards in 10 plays to score the tying TD with 24 seconds left

SD game...Dallas scores to tie the game on a 99 yd drive..SD takes over to begin the 4th Q..proceed to go 75 yards in 11 plays to take the lead

2010
Washington..Dallas is down 3 Washington proceeds to drives 10 plays for 46 yards in 4thQ and kicks the FG that made the last drive have to be a TD for Dallas

Chicago..Dallas scores on two striaght possesions..problem is The D turns around on the VERY NEXT POSSESION AFTER and allows two scoring drives as well...Game is tied 4th Q..Chicago drives 66 yards in only FOUR plays for the go ahead TD

Now this does not even take in account the lack of game changing turnovers last year and this year as well...or the fact Dallas the last two years have the worst starting position of any team in the NFL( BTW you claim not that big of a deal, yet I loved how Troy Aikman described what that does to an offense and how it affects the game plan and game itself)

The Dallas D plays great when they start out great..but as soon as they have to make a game changing drive, they have not done it enough( I can think of one off top of head..the Saints game last year)

I was listening on Satelite radio and the stat they gave was Dallas last year and this was the worst Defense in shut down drives..meaning stopping the opponent on the first drive after your offense scores.


All that stuff you mentioned is fluff and padding and isn't relevant! The Dallas D allowed 111 points (7 per game) less than the Dallas offense scored and the Dallas offense was average at best in points scored. You say they didn't make game changing plays but in almost every single game they held their opponents to a low enough score for the offense to outscore! In 3 of the 5 loses they BEAT their opponents but didn't get help from the offense. In the other two loses (Giants 2 games) they played to a stalemate. You expect a "Game Saving" stop at the end of the game but there would be no "Game Saving" play needed if the offense could score earlier in the game. The Dallas defense was #2 in points allowed and the Dallas offense was #14 in points scored. Besides the Giants 2 games the only team to score more against the Cowboys D than their season average was Tampa Bay in the very first game. If the Dallas offense just scores the average points allowed vs the Packers, Denver, and Chargers game Dallas goes 14-2 on the season.

Both Giants games last season were not normal games for this team. Like I said earlier in the week it seems NY owns this defense recently.



Denver: The Denver offense averaged 20 points a game. They scored 17 against the Dallas D. The Denver defense allowed 20 points per game last season and Dallas scored 10!

Chargers: Averaged 28 points a game. Dallas D allowed 20. Gave up 20 points a game. Dallas offense scored 17!

Packers: Averaged 29 points a game. Scored 17 against Dallas. Gave up 19 points a game. Dallas scored 7.

Giants: Averaged 25 per game. Scored 33 & 31 against Dallas. Averaged giving up 27 points per game and Dallas scored 31 & 24.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
2009



Now this does not even take in account the lack of game changing turnovers last year and this year as well...or the fact Dallas the last two years have the worst starting position of any team in the NFL( BTW you claim not that big of a deal, yet I loved how Troy Aikman described what that does to an offense and how it affects the game plan and game itself)





We have already discussed this and determined the difference was only 2 yards!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
All that stuff you mentioned is fluff and padding and isn't relevant! The Dallas D allowed 111 points (7 per game) less than the Dallas offense scored and the Dallas offense was average at best in points scored. You say they didn't make game changing plays but in almost every single game they held their opponents to a low enough score for the offense to outscore! In 3 of the 5 loses they BEAT their opponents but didn't get help from the offense. In the other two loses (Giants 2 games) they played to a stalemate. You expect a "Game Saving" stop at the end of the game but there would be no "Game Saving" play needed if the offense could score earlier in the game. The Dallas defense was #2 in points allowed and the Dallas offense was #14 in points scored. Besides the Giants 2 games the only team to score more against the Cowboys D than their season average was Tampa Bay in the very first game. If the Dallas offense just scores the average points allowed vs the Packers, Denver, and Chargers game Dallas goes 14-2 on the season.

Both Giants games last season were not normal games for this team. Like I said earlier in the week it seems NY owns this defense recently.



Denver: The Denver offense averaged 20 points a game. They scored 17 against the Dallas D. The Denver defense allowed 20 points per game last season and Dallas scored 10!

Chargers: Averaged 28 points a game. Dallas D allowed 20. Gave up 20 points a game. Dallas offense scored 17!

Packers: Averaged 29 points a game. Scored 17 against Dallas. Gave up 19 points a game. Dallas scored 7.

Giants: Averaged 25 per game. Scored 33 & 31 against Dallas. Averaged giving up 27 points per game and Dallas scored 31 & 24.


Again..When u hand the "ball" to your defense with a lead or tie in the 4thQ and especially under 4 mins a great D HAS to make the stops..the Dallas D falls short WAY to many time

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
We have already discussed this and determined the difference was only 2 yards!


Well I guess ole Aikman dont know a thing went he talked about 5 mins how if you make a teamn drive 75 plus yards drive in and drive out even if talented they will struggle to score alot of TDs