LH vs Llano

[Super_R]

Well its the 2nd week in a row for the Panthers to face a Slot-T team...and same goes for the Yellowjackets.

Both the Panthers and the Yellowjackets came away with a close win last week. LH beat Taylor 10-6 and Llano beat Lampasas 21-20.

The Panthers and the Yellowjackets are both 5-2 overall 2-0 in district. The LH, Llano, and Burnet(6-1) are all undefeated in district play.

LH should win this one if they don't lose the turn-over battle.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Super_R
LH should win this one if they don't lose the turn-over battle.

This will be the key for sure in this one. Offensive consistency would help as well. ;)

[runtowin]

last year LH lost to Llano because of 6 turnovers. Last week LH almost lost to Taylor because of 2 big dropped passes and drive killing penalties. Repeat either and LH is in trouble. BTW, Llano is not slot T. They have sold out to the community and their 6-5 quarterback is the offense.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by runtowin
last year LH lost to Llano because of 6 turnovers. Last week LH almost lost to Taylor because of 2 big dropped passes and drive killing penalties. Repeat either and LH is in trouble. BTW, Llano is not slot T. They have sold out to the community and their 6-5 quarterback is the offense.



saw them earlier...when they go to their old offense...they are a lot better....not saying would of beat brownwood and don't know if it would been a good game...but stick with the slot t and they don't allow Brownwood to score like they did...shorten the game by playing keep away.

[Tin Cup]

Nasty you and I both know it would not have mattered what Llano did/tried against us, they were just outmatched. Give me liberty hill by 14

[sandmaster]

I'll take Llano in this one, purely because everybody counted them out all year long and they continue to suprise people. Either way this is a HUGE game for both teams, as it looks like Burnet, Llano, and LH will be the playoff teams out of this district, and the loser of the LH/Llano game would more than likely end up playing Wimberley(If i understand everything correctly). And I don't think anybody wants to play those guys in the first round of the playoffs.

Yellowjackets by 3

[LHdog]

I think it boils down to which team throws the ball better. Last week, if Taylor had started passing earlier, it could have made the difference. Since the Yellowjackets seem pass the ball more effectively than the Panthers, I have to pick Llano.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Nasty you and I both know it would not have mattered what Llano did/tried against us, they were just outmatched. Give me liberty hill by 14

Right...I wasn't trying say Llano would have won ...that game was so one sided....saying sticking to what Llano did in past and did well would have made the game a more competitive one.

I have not seen anyone this season as good as Brownwood.
Wimberley is next best team I have seen and they aren't healthy.....I posted last week I would like to see Wimberley and Brownwood match up.

[Daddy D 11]

This is off topic and sure to ruin this thread with Brownwood homerism, but:
A healthy Wimberley team beats a healthy Brownwood team if they face in the state championship. If Wimberley gets back Smith, Blackmore and the other 2 starters they will beat Brownwood and keep the streak of Shipley being runner-up intact. Mark it down that I said it now, that way y'all can all give me my credit.


On the topic at hand, if LH wants to win this week they need to probably score more points than Llano.

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
This is off topic and sure to ruin this thread with Brownwood homerism, but:
A healthy Wimberley team beats a healthy Brownwood team if they face in the state championship. If Wimberley gets back Smith, Blackmore and the other 2 starters they will beat Brownwood and keep the streak of Shipley being runner-up intact. Mark it down that I said it now, that way y'all can all give me my credit.


On the topic at hand, if LH wants to win this week they need to probably score more points than Llano.

Wimberley had all of those players there last year plus their QB that graduated and it took a kick return for TD and 4 fourth quarter turnovers by Bwood for Wimberley to pull it out. They played us without our starting or even our backup QB. All of our guys are pretty much back and we are healthy. If we are healthy, we roll Wimberley... whether they are healthy or not.

But to keep this thread on topic...

This week I don't know who to take... I hope Llano wins but my gut says Liberty Hill.

[Cam]

Best defense wins this one. Not sure who that is.....

[Super_R]

Originally posted by Cam
Best defense wins this one. Not sure who that is.....

Llano's D has been giving up just under 26 ppg.

LH's D has been giving up just under 20 ppg.

[Cam]

there you go....LH wins with the D....

[lange4]

My resources tell me Wimberley will have their injured players back by playoffs.

By the way this will be Llano's third straight game against a slot-T team. We will only run about 5-6 plays out of the slot a game.
By the end of the Lampasas game 21.4% of the team was on the sideline with injuries. We will have to see how many of those will be able to play this week. Defensivly we played a great game against Lampasas but offensively we have not hit our stride in any game yet. If we play def like last week then Llano wins, if we don't then who knows.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by lange4

By the end of the Lampasas game 21.4% of the team was on the sideline with injuries.

OK. I have to ask. How did you come up with 21.4% of the team? LMAO :D

[lange4]

6 out of 28

[LH_Tuff]

Makes sense now. :)

This brings up another question. You say Llano has 28 on the varsity roster? How many play both ways? If any. Just curious.

[lange4]

there are several. Do not know exact #. Several more play situational 2-way if you know what i mean.

[BullBoy]

The Liberty Hill panthers are the masters of the slot-t! they will show Llano how it's done properly!:D

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by lange4
there are several. Do not know exact #. Several more play situational 2-way if you know what i mean.

Understand. LH does not have any 2 way starters. But they do have some situational players like you mention.

[lange4]

sounds like ours are probably in for more situations than ya'lls are.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by BullBoy
The Liberty Hill panthers are the masters of the slot-t! they will show Llano how it's done properly!:D

No. The 'Master' of the slot-T is now the HC/AD at 2A Rogers.

[BullBoy]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
No. The 'Master' of the slot-T is now the HC/AD at 2A Rogers.

dang, really? you guys were like an unstoppable little machine last time i saw LH in person! (Liberty Hill vs Bridgeport in 2008)

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by BullBoy
dang, really? you guys were like an unstoppable little machine last time i saw LH in person! (Liberty Hill vs Bridgeport in 2008)

The coach I am referring to left after the 2007 championship season. He was the OC. In 08, there were a lot of players left from the '07 team.

Don't get me wrong. LH is still very good at running the slot-t. The previous OC seemed to have a knack for putting the players in the right position. Something I see lacking these days.

[LHdog]

I agree 100%. Coach Walker was a key part of the LH championship runs. He has not been successfully replaced.

[sandmaster]

Originally posted by BullBoy
The Liberty Hill panthers are the masters of the slot-t! they will show Llano how it's done properly!:D


Llano's coach knows a thing or two about the Slot T as well...

[lange4]

but Llano does not run it now.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by runtowin
last year LH lost to Llano because of 6 turnovers.
That and other reasons... :doh:

[LH Panther Mom]

I said it last year and I'm saying it again. Walker's gone. Get over it!

[runtowin]

Just curious. It has been said that walker had a knack for personnel placement. What would he do personnel wise that is not being done. Btw can't bring back escamilla kociuba allman bode perrin gonzales or lattimore!

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by runtowin
Just curious. It has been said that walker had a knack for personnel placement. What would he do personnel wise that is not being done. Btw can't bring back escamilla kociuba allman bode perrin gonzales or lattimore!

Won't even go there. Not productive to speculate.

I have a question for LH fans to ponder - Who do you think has been the best QB over the last 8 or so years? The QB is the key to the slot-t. He runs the offense and 'hides' the ball. I give kudos to Perrin and Fickle since they won championships. But, for me Hansen was the best I saw at running the offense. He was the best at hiding the ball. Thoughts?

[Super_R]

+1 on Hansen. I wish they ran some of the option with him like they did with the Perrin/Bode combination. Imagine Hansen and Kociuba running it.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Super_R
+1 on Hansen. I wish they ran some of the option with him like they did with the Perrin/Bode combination. Imagine Hansen and Kociuba running it.

Yeah, that would have been great. However, the '228' pitch to Kociuba was pretty potent. Almost guaranteed 6. I'lll always remember that lineman (#72 I think) that could not have weighed more than 150lbs running down the sideline with Kociuba looking for someone to clock. He always seemed to be the escort. :D

[Super_R]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
Yeah, that would have been great. However, the '228' pitch to Kociuba was pretty potent. Almost guaranteed 6. I'lll always remember that lineman (#72 I think) that could not have weighed more than 150lbs running down the sideline with Kociuba looking for someone to clock. He always seemed to be the escort. :D

Mike Cole #56 and Logan Fletcher #74 were the 2 pulling guards. They were fast and head hunters.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Super_R
Mike Cole #56 and Logan Fletcher #74 were the 2 pulling guards. They were fast and head hunters.

Yeah, Fletcher is the one. He always escorted Casey to the endzone.:D

[Super_R]

He often would beat Casey there.

[runtowin]

Hansen was probably the best, with Perrin a close second. Fletcher was a very unique individual. What would be your dream LH backs (qb included) and guards.

Mine
QB- Hansen (competitor with speed and toughness)
FB- Winstead (see above, could run power and traps)
HB- Escamilla (unbelievable vision and awareness)
TB- tough to call, Kociuba, Bode or Gonzales. I will take Kociuba
Strong Guard- John Miller (former back turned guard)
Quick Guard- Dillon Hoerster (size edge over Fletcher)

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by runtowin
Hansen was probably the best, with Perrin a close second. Fletcher was a very unique individual. What would be your dream LH backs (qb included) and guards.

Mine
QB- Hansen (competitor with speed and toughness)
FB- Winstead (see above, could run power and traps)
HB- Escamilla (unbelievable vision and awareness)
TB- tough to call, Kociuba, Bode or Gonzales. I will take Kociuba
Strong Guard- John Miller (former back turned guard)
Quick Guard- Dillon Hoerster (size edge over Fletcher)

I would agree with these guys. At FB I would throw Lawhorn and Allman in there. Both were good size, tough and fast.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by runtowin
Hansen was probably the best, with Perrin a close second. Fletcher was a very unique individual. What would be your dream LH backs (qb included) and guards.

Thanks for leaving off the tackles & TE's. :tongue: :tongue: :p



Here's my thoughts on the game. Penalties, especially those 3rd down ones, have to get better! Shooting ourselves in the foot with them is no bueno. All sides (offense, defense & special teams) need to be ready for all 4 quarters of smashmouth football.


Panthers RULE! Yellowjackets...uhm, do they drool? :D

[Daddy D 11]

Both Escamillas were players.
If Walker was here, Thompson wouldn't be the QB. He'd be on defense. And our HB and FB would actually line up next to each other and not crooked every play. And our FB wouldn't tip when he is getting the ball or not. Also, Walker would run the best play in the offense more than once a game.

In 04 when they set a national record or whatever for rushing yards in a season has got to be the best offense ever. I wouldn't change a single thing about that offense. Cole and Fletcher were the nastiest and if Lawhorn didn't barrel down your throat, Kocuiba would run you over on the outside. And Escamilla would just make you miss and take it to the house, not to mention Dex was the freaking man.
That's still my favorite team of all time with Tony just mauling boys on defense all year.

[SintonFan]

Subject:
Who wins this Friday night.

"Who is Liberty Hill by a Touchdown, Alex?":nerd:

[Tx Challenge]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Both Escamillas were players.
If Walker was here, Thompson wouldn't be the QB. He'd be on defense. And our HB and FB would actually line up next to each other and not crooked every play. And our FB wouldn't tip when he is getting the ball or not. Also, Walker would run the best play in the offense more than once a game.

In 04 when they set a national record or whatever for rushing yards in a season has got to be the best offense ever. I wouldn't change a single thing about that offense. Cole and Fletcher were the nastiest and if Lawhorn didn't barrel down your throat, Kocuiba would run you over on the outside. And Escamilla would just make you miss and take it to the house, not to mention Dex was the freaking man.
That's still my favorite team of all time with Tony just mauling boys on defense all year.

Stats prove 04 was the best offense for LH. Tony also was on offense that year as well, playing TE. Dexter was the man at hiding the ball. BTW, was not a national record, maybe 3rd or 4th? Still the best we have seen

[runtowin]

Lhpm. No argument on the tackles. Terry boys and Canady end of discussion

[Tx Challenge]

LH by 10

[Super_R]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
I would agree with these guys. At FB I would throw Lawhorn and Allman in there. Both were good size, tough and fast.

That 04 year Lawhorn had 45 td's or so. That has to rank up there in Texas High School Football.

The O that year rushed for over 7000 yards.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by Super_R
That 04 year Lawhorn had 45 td's or so. That has to rank up there in Texas High School Football.

The O that year rushed for over 7000 yards.

Yes. 2004 was an exciting year. I believe that was the year Manor came to LH with the #1 ranking. And what a game it was. No defense that night. :D

As far as this weeks game - I say LH wins 28-17.

[lange4]

I will say Llano's O steps it up a notch and comes out on top 28-21.

[Tx Challenge]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
Yes. 2004 was an exciting year. I believe that was the year Manor came to LH with the #1 ranking. And what a game it was. No defense that night. :D

As far as this weeks game - I say LH wins 28-17.

I ran the chains that night...Talk about a workout!

[runtowin]

The Panther D may have something to say about that.

[lange4]

something like which way did they go

[runtowin]

You are indicating that they may actually go back to the slot T?

[lange4]

for 5-6 plays

[runtowin]

Llano v LH games have always been tough games. Should be another good one this week.

[greendawg84]

Jackets by 14 + if they throw the ball

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by greendawg84
Jackets by 14 + if they throw the ball

I hope Llano does come out throwing. That 6'5" QB will get a chance to meet Mr. Bates and Mr. Bishop. They are the defensive ends and they love to meet at the QB. ;)

Now that I think about it, I see why Llano abandoned the slot-t. It is pretty hard for a 6'5" QB to hide the ball. :p

[lange4]

you ought to see him try to squat behind the center.

[LHPfactory]

LH in a hard fought one down to the wire....

And as for the glory days, We have some kids in the wings in elementary, intermediate, and Junior High that will fill the shoes of the ones mentioned in this thread. Ive coached the youth leagues for 5 years now and we have youth linemen that blast the line of scrimmage like Terry used to, along with backs that will lay a lick and run hard. These Kids can play with any one and usually win. The thunder is coming back.....

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
LH in a hard fought one down to the wire....

And as for the glory days, We have some kids in the wings in elementary, intermediate, and Junior High that will fill the shoes of the ones mentioned in this thread. Ive coached the youth leagues for 5 years now and we have youth linemen that blast the line of scrimmage like Terry used to, along with backs that will lay a lick and run hard. These Kids can play with any one and usually win. The thunder is coming back.....

I think it is great that we have some kids coming up that will be good players. However, they will not 'fill the shoes' of the ones mentioned. I say this because the ones mentioned above got this program on the map. They were the ones that created The Purple Thunder. They set the stage for the championship seasons. So, they have a place all their own in Panther history. The kids coming up will have their own identity and hopefully great accomplishments.

[LHPfactory]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
I think it is great that we have some kids coming up that will be good players. However, they will not 'fill the shoes' of the ones mentioned. I say this because the ones mentioned above got this program on the map. They were the ones that created The Purple Thunder. They set the stage for the championship seasons. So, they have a place all their own in Panther history. The kids coming up will have their own identity and hopefully great accomplishments.

You read to much in to it, Simply using the outstanding accomplishments of the past players as a benchmark to reference the great group that will be under the lights a few years down the road. The future players will likely be blazing their own trail as they fight through a 4a schedule.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by LHPfactory
You read to much in to it, Simply using the outstanding accomplishments of the past players as a benchmark to reference the great group that will be under the lights a few years down the road. The future players will likely be blazing their own trail as they fight through a 4a schedule. :thumbsup:

[sandmaster]

Llano 7-0 1st qtr

[sandmaster]

10-0 Llano!!!

[sandmaster]

10-7 Llano 2 mins left before half

[SintonFan]

Come on LH!:clap:

[Tin Cup]

Wow liberty hill must be way down this year.

[44INAROW]

Half
Llano 10
LH 7

[SintonFan]

LH will come back.

:clap:

[sandmaster]

Lets go Llano!!! Need another strong half!!!

[sandmaster]

21-10 LH two turnovers by Llano in the second half gave LH two short fields. Llano has moved the ball all night. Just hurting themselves!!

[LH_Tuff]

LH wins 31-24.

[sandmaster]

Heard it turned into a crazy game in the 4th. Details plz

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by sandmaster
Heard it turned into a crazy game in the 4th. Details plz
Defenses had a little down time. lol ;)

[Super_R]

Originally posted by sandmaster
21-10 LH two turnovers by Llano in the second half gave LH two short fields. Llano has moved the ball all night. Just hurting themselves!!

2 turnovers in the 2nd half by the yellow jackets. both ints. Several 3 and outs. The Panther D stepped it up.

THe Panthers went up 24-10 with 4 minutes left to play. Stratton hits a 55 yard field goal. That is when it got crazy.

On the 1st play after the Panthers kicked off Llano scores on an 80 yard pass. (24-17) now its 3 and some change left.

LH takes the ball 70 yards of so on 3 plays for the score. (31-17) now there is 2:18 left to play.

Llano goes 80 yards in 2 plays. (31-24) 1:59.

Llano tries the onside kick and fails to recover. LH runs the clock down to :07 b4 Llano gets the ball back.

Ball game!

LH wins 31-24.

Llano had more offense in the last 3 minutes of the game than they had in the previous 45.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Super_R
Stratton hits a 55 yard field goal.
I might be wrong, but I think that's the longest FG I remember from an LH kicker...and it was awesome!

[sinton66]

Congrats Panthers!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LH_Tuff
LH wins 31-24.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Super_R]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I might be wrong, but I think that's the longest FG I remember from an LH kicker...and it was awesome!

It is for sure in recent history. I haven't seen one. It might be the longest FG of the season in all of 3A.

It definitely excited the Panther side of the field.