Brownwood vs All Saints Live

[Txbroadcaster]

http://www.meridix.com/mbp/football/index.php?liveid=sportsgram8&recordid=14357&event_position=&event_type=football

Pre-Game 7 KO 7:30..come on and join us for a fun night of football


BTW 3ADL is a proud sponsor of this special game tonight

[Txbroadcaster]

Pre-Game is rolling

[bobcat1]

Listening but gonna be a blow out. :rolleyes: All Saints beat Callisburg 37-24. 1A Goldthwaite was beat by Callisburg 21-20 in week 2.

[BullBoy]

...Callisburg beat Goldthwaite 21-20, but yes it WILL be a BLOW OUT, Brownwood is too good.

[Txbroadcaster]

KICK OFF 3 mins away

[ccmom]

I had to change to a different webcast because I wasn't getting sound on your link, TXB....:confused: :(

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by BullBoy
...Callisburg beat Goldthwaite 21-20, but yes it WILL be a BLOW OUT, Brownwood is too good. OOPS You are right. I read the wrong score. Blow out nonetheless. They got me until it gets bad.

[Gsquared]

Originally posted by ccmom
I had to change to a different webcast because I wasn't getting sound on your link, TXB....:confused: :(
Should be fixed now

[pirate4state]

already a fumble?

[SintonFan]

Having trouble getting into the site.

[bobcat1]

Keep a defib ready. Terry is getting pumped!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[pirate4state]

i may have to puke if i listen to this much longer :D

[SintonFan]

Do I have to click on something or what?

[BullBoy]

:eek: shipley IS GOOD:eek:

[SintonFan]

nvm i got it

[Txbroadcaster]

press play on player

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Do I have to click on something or what?

I didn't have to ... just clicked on the link in the first post and I hear Terry & Grant

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
press play on player

Thanks, the player didn't show up until I refreshed. Same as last time.

[Matthew328]

score?? can't listen to the game in the pressbox....

[pirate4state]

7-0 BW up

[SintonFan]

FIRST DOWN ALL SAINTS!!!!!!!!!
:clap:

[SintonFan]

by a hair...

[SintonFan]

SCOTT HOLLIS!!!!!!!!
WOOOOO HOOOOO!
BIG PLAY!!!

[SintonFan]

All saint's coaches notice that the ends are scraping on the ends and are taking advantage of it...:nerd:

[SintonFan]

All Saints have sore feet...:(

[bobcat1]

All Saints not having a lot of trouble driving on Brownwood. No go for it.!!!!!!!!!!!

[bobcat1]

Dumb play! Gained 18 yards on a punt. Never would have gave it back until I had too in that position. And that is why.........

[SintonFan]

Shipley 21- All Saints 0
Dang...

[pirate4state]

:wave: and that's enough for me

[bobcat1]

I think I am gonna go watch Grey's Anatomy...... Jam them receivers at the line All Saints!

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Dumb play! Gained 18 yards on a punt. Never would have gave it back until I had too in that position. And that is why.........

Looked like a bad idea, for sure...

[garciap77]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Shipley 21- All Saints 0
Dang...

LOL Go Brownwood!!!!!

[garciap77]

28 -0 1st qtr WOW!!!! 1:37 to GO! WOW

[bobcat1]

Sign on All Saints side :helpme:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Sign on All Saints side :helpme:

LOL

[Txbroadcaster]

So strange All Saints can move it almost at will

[BullBoy]

It's gonna take a team with a really good offense to knock Brownwood off, no defense can contain their high powered attack.

[bobcat1]

They are out athleted and out coached.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by BullBoy
It's gonna take a team with a really good offense to knock Brownwood off, no defense can contain their high powered attack. I wouldn't say that. They haven't played a good defense yet but will hopefully. Not sure they have played a potent offense yet either. They have the studs though and a good coach.

[bobcat1]

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8708/yawnjs5.gif

They are never going to call a facemask on Brownwood. http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1402/newangryoldmanql8.gif


Laterhttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7484/wavenv4.gif

[BullBoy]

:thinking: come to think of it, they really havent right?:thinking:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by bobcat1
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8708/yawnjs5.gif

They are never going to call a facemask on Brownwood. http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1402/newangryoldmanql8.gif


Laterhttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7484/wavenv4.gif

you leave and All Saints scores...:D

[Txbroadcaster]

COMEBACK...TD Pass 35-6

[BullBoy]

dont know what to think of this game, is all saints moving the ball well due to brownwood relaxing on defense cus they're up by so many points?

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BullBoy
dont know what to think of this game, is all saints moving the ball well due to brownwood relaxing on defense cus they're up by so many points?

No. All Saints preaches an all out offense but they play only 5 on defense.:(

[BullBoy]

dang ol' brownwood:(

[BullBoy]

did i just hear a bullboy shout out?:clap:

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BullBoy
did i just hear a bullboy shout out?:clap:

I thought Terry said "bulb oy"?:confused:

[STANG RED]

Do they have any of the big screens up and running?

[IrishTex]

running in to the punter??? Gimme a break..

:rolleyes:


I'm surprised All Saints took this game...what a mismatch..

[BullBoy]

mistakes + more mistakes = a blowout loss to Brownwood.

just came up with that little equation, sound about right?:thinking:

[SintonFan]

Quick question:
How many Lions does it take to win a state championship?
Three.
That's only because the other team has Chuck Norris and Mike Ditka.:o

[STANG RED]

Thanks for answering my qestion about the big screens. I just figured they might be too expensive to operate for a game like this. Cool that they are running though.

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by STANG RED
Thanks for answering my qestion about the big screens. I just figured they might be too expensive to operate for a game like this. Cool that they are running though.

I swear that I heard the announcer say the down was 3rd and Shipley!

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by IrishTex
running in to the punter??? Gimme a break..

:rolleyes:


I'm surprised All Saints took this game...what a mismatch.. cake walk

[IrishTex]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
cake walk

:D :D :D :clap:

[hollywood]

Originally posted by STANG RED
Thanks for answering my qestion about the big screens. I just figured they might be too expensive to operate for a game like this. Cool that they are running though.

Thanks to All Saints. :D

[Txbroadcaster]

2nd Half we are taking Questions to the booth..post them here..any question about 3A

[SintonFan_inAustin]

audio?

[IrishTex]

I hear it ok..

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
audio?

??

[IrishTex]

Brownwood + Sinton = Super Bowl Champions

[SintonFan_inAustin]

good now

[BullBoy]

Brownwoods offense is obviously VERY GOOD, but their defense i dont know what to think about them. i mean yeah they're getting turnovers but All Saints seems to be moving the ball alright against them they just made too many mistakes and brownwood has made them pay for most of them. like that bobcat guy said, a team with a potent offense or good defense could give them trouble if they ever have to face one. i figured this would be a blow out but i never imagined it getting this ugly this fast.

[IrishTex]

Good game guys...by that I mean it must be kind of tough announcing a game and keeping it interesting while a blow out is going on...good job.

[IrishTex]

I'm gonna predict Estacado wins by 7 over Wylie...then,
magically Abilene Wylie brings the A team on the field for District play and runs the table.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

LOL at that commercial of the 3a downlow!

[Txbroadcaster]

start of 2nd half..remember ask questions here any and all things 3A we will answer on air

[Gsquared]

Ask me what color my underwear is

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by IrishTex
I'm gonna predict Estacado wins by 7 over Wylie...then,
magically Abilene Wylie brings the A team on the field for District play and runs the table.

I might agree with you on that most years, and I havent given up on Wylie yet, but they sure dont seem the same as usual this year. Maybe the odds just finally caught up to them. Everybody has to have a down year occasionally, and i cant even remember the last time Wylie had one. Maybe its just time.
Wonder what Terry and Grant think???????????????:D

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Gsquared
Ask me what color my underwear is

Are you wearing them on your head?:D

[bobcat1]

On a commercial break from Grey'a anatomey on DVR.

Grant and Terry, can a defense stop Brownwood by jamming their receivers at the line hard and eating the QB with pressure?

[IrishTex]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
start of 2nd half..remember ask questions here any and all things 3A we will answer on air

OK, I'll ask one.

As an "outsider" of south Texas football....what makes Sinton such a power house year in and year out...Can they be looked at as an Odessa Permian of south Texas?

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Gsquared
Ask me what color my underwear is

Ummm
brown streaks???:(

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
LOL at that commercial of the 3a downlow!

HomeoftheSlackers... lol

[SintonFan]

Legit question:

Is the Brownwood<bows head and curtsies> QB that good?
You can have the best receivers in the world but you have to have someone who can deliver it well.
How is the running game?

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by IrishTex
OK, I'll ask one.

As an "outsider" of south Texas football....what makes Sinton such a power house year in and year out...Can they be looked at as an Odessa Permian of south Texas?

Don't listen to him! Cuero and Hondo has had more success than Sinton in Region 4.(at least in football lol)

LOL
lol
Just heard you Grant! Shunny fit! Fuschia...:D :clap: :D

[IrishTex]

Even the refs are for Brownwood...

:D :D

:evilgrin:

[SintonFan]

What is the greatest weakness of the Brownwood defense?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Is Brownwood running game a threat also or is it just the passing game?

[TinyTim]

Okay guys,

I am hearing a lot about Brownwood's dominance. What does Wylie have to do against Brownwood and can they beat them in district play?

[SintonFan]

So an effective Wing-t/slot-t might be able to control the game? Has Brownwood played one of those teams this season?

[STANG RED]

Think I'll check out guys. Wookins sending me updates anyway. Good job guys!:2thumbsup

[BullBoy]

isn't llano a slot t team?

[jason]

Originally posted by TinyTim
Okay guys,

I am hearing a lot about Brownwood's dominance. What does Wylie have to do against Brownwood and can they beat them in district play? slash the tires on the bus so they cant go


ive seen wylie and brownwood...

brownwood will roll....

[IrishTex]

I predict Brownwood 35
Abilene Wylie 17

[SintonFan]

Did All Saints have success with rolling out the QB more or with the QB in the pocket?

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Doesnt have to be a slot team, just have to limit Brownwood chances on offense by having long drives that take up most of the quarter.

[TinyTim]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Did All Saints have success with rolling out the QB more or with the QB in the pocket?

Neither, they only have 6.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BullBoy
isn't llano a slot t team?

"effective" What is the Llano record, now?
Not putting them down, I just don't know.

[SintonFan]

How far can the Lion kicker kick a FG? How far has he kicked all those kick offs?

[IrishTex]

5A Score

Trinity 45
L.D. Bell 22

2:19 left in the 4th quarter

[BullBoy]

oops, sorry, i just kind of skimmed through all the posts, missed the word "effective". would you consider liberty hill an effective slot t offense?

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
Doesnt have to be a slot team, just have to limit Brownwood chances on offense by having long drives that take up most of the quarter.

Mathis is developing their passing game so they come become multi-dimensional.

[IrishTex]

Final

Texas Rangers 3
LA Angels 2

Rangers now lead by 11 games. Largest lead in franchise history.

[SintonFan]

Youbetcha!
Looking for your opinions. Just trying to help.

If '02 Everman was Rock, 2010 Brownwood was paper...
which team this year could be considered "scissors"? :nerd:

[IrishTex]

Final

Trinity 45
Bell 22

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BullBoy
oops, sorry, i just kind of skimmed through all the posts, missed the word "effective". would you consider liberty hill an effective slot t offense?

They do tend to run it better than most now(better than almost anyone a few years back). But they haven't played each other.

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Ranger tickets?

[Old Green]

4A Final

Boerne Champion 45
San Antonio Brennan 14

[IrishTex]

Ranger Pitching stats

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
C Lee 7.0 4 1 0 0 8 0 93-62 3.18
D O'Day
(W, 6-2; B, 2) 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 1 13-9 2.07
N Feliz
(S, 39) 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 22-13 2.77
Totals 9.0 5 2 1 1 9 1 128-84
PITCHING
First-pitch strikes/Batters faced: C Lee 15/25; D O'Day 3/4; N Feliz 2/4
Called strikes-Swinging strikes-Foul balls-In Play strikes: C Lee 18-11-16-17; D O'Day 3-0-2-4; N Feliz 1-3-7-2
Ground Balls-Fly Balls: C Lee 6-7; D O'Day 1-2; N Feliz 1-1
Game Scores: C Lee 75

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs445.snc4/49062_796888855_5497_n.jpg

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
Ranger tickets?

Dude! You won the jackpot!:D

[SintonFan_inAustin]

That first offer sounds good, dont know who John Denver is :D

[SintonFan]

Fairfield vs Mexia should be game of the week,
next week.:D








God finally became interested in the game now as All Saints scored.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by SintonFan_inAustin
That first offer sounds good, dont know who John Denver is :D

"Rocky Mountain High"!

[SintonFan]

Nasty illness. Hope Smoak makes a full recovery.

[SintonFan]

I was asked to jump on the bangwagon.:D
Why not? 5-0 for the first time in years.
They can beat Brownwood!

[IrishTex]

4th Quarter
5:19 left

Texas A&M 28
Ok State 35

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by IrishTex
4th Quarter
5:19 left

Texas A&M 28
Ok State 35

WTH?
A&M was up 21-7 at the half.:mad:

[Old Green]

Great Webcast Guys.

[IrishTex]

Originally posted by SintonFan
WTH?
A&M was up 21-7 at the half.:mad:

Yeah...I dunno what happened..

:mad:

[SintonFan_inAustin]

Originally posted by Old Green
Great Webcast Guys. yep, first time tuning in. GREAT Job!

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Old Green
Great Webcast Guys.

Ditto!
Great webcast.:cool:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Ditto!
Great webcast.:cool: I agree. Thanks Grant and Terry!:clap:

[bobcat4life]

I didnt catch the webcast. What was the final score/stats, etc.?

[Z-RO]

59-13 I believe

[Rocket]

Originally posted by IrishTex
I predict Brownwood 35
Abilene Wylie 17

Brownwood will score as many as they want on Wylie.

56-21

[Rocket]

Originally posted by SintonFan
So an effective Wing-t/slot-t might be able to control the game? Has Brownwood played one of those teams this season?

Brownwood beat the crap out of China Springs (a top 20 team) and they run the slot t.

You cannot turn the ball over against Brownwood. And you have to score every posession to just hang... That's the pattern...Brownwoods defense is plenty tough.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
I didnt catch the webcast. What was the final score/stats, etc.?

Brownwood dominated in all aspects. Shipley 165 yards 3 TDs and Brown 215 yards passing and 4 TDs.

Total offensive yards:
Brownwood 410
All Saints 204

[Tin Cup]

It's weird watching us bc I sometimes feel like we played bad at times and yet I look up and it's 42-6 or something. I can't see a team holding us under 35 points if we are at full strength health-wise. We can score at will at this point and I'm beginning to wonder if we are unstoppable on O or just haven't faced a lefit D. I know we are good but we can get a lot better. Our secondary is one pass away from an INT bc we have tons of skill in the secondary. We can improve certainly but until we face a really strong team I'm just not sure. We haven't played a full game except for sville so who knows our ceiling. I like our chances.

[wimbo_pro]

Brownwood <bows head> is completely and undeniably unstoppable. This is becoming more and more obvious as the season progresses.

[Txbroadcaster]

Game is now archived on sportsgram

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Rocket
Brownwood dominated in all aspects. Shipley 165 yards 3 TDs and Brown 215 yards passing and 4 TDs.

Total offensive yards:
Brownwood 410
All Saints 204

And our stats are basically half time stats. You guys think what you want to think. We show up and do the something to every team we've played. All Saints easily had the best O of any team we've played. Result, 6 points against our 1's and 7 against our 2's.




BEAST

[hollywood]

Well another one in the books. Congrats Lions on another great win. All Saints, that's one classy program and staff you got. They have some really good players that have some talent.
Here is my take on the game tonight. BW obviously out matched All Saints man for man, but appeared to play down tonight. They tried a lot of new things and looked to be bored at times on offense and slipped on D when they played very laxt. Give some credit to All Saints in that they had a good scheme with some trick plays and some sneaky delayed receiver routes. If I were an outsider and this was my first BW game to see, I really wouldn't know what to think other than they can score on any given play. IMHO, Stephenville is the ONLY team that has truly challenged BW this season. That being said, they rise to the occasion when called upon. This team will go very deep in the playoffs. Like someone else said, the only teams that can go toe to toe with this BW team are teams that can score a LOT of points with a decent defense. Bet o luck to All Saints from here on out.

GO LIONS! The time is now!

[GrTigers6]

I was very dissapointed in their offense. I wanted to see some long offensive drives but all I got was 5 play drives, 3 play drives 1 play drive. :D
All kidding aside it doesnt matter how long the other team keeps the ball when you have the capability to score at will. If you have a 10 play 9 min drive for a td and the wood has a one play drive for 40 seconds the score is still 7-7.

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by BEAST
And our stats are basically half time stats. You guys think what you want to think. We show up and do the something to every team we've played. All Saints easily had the best O of any team we've played. Result, 6 points against our 1's and 7 against our 2's.

BEAST

My boys and I went to the game to see what all of the fuss was about and I have to admit I was a little disappointed. Brownwood is essentially their 7 on 7 team offensively with a few other guys standing around to make it 11. If its 3rd down Shipley is going to get the ball and there is not a darn thing you can do about it. Just for fun they throw it to another guy and giggle. In 7 on 7 if Shipley was not getting the ball he would take the play off. Last night he ran every play like it was coming to him and he is a very good stalk blocker particularly against a kid that knows the he is get ready to be toasted.

The Oline is not particular big or fast and would not fare well against a good DL and well designed blitzes. You would have to disrupt the rhythm to get a stop as your not going to stop them from scoring.

Defensively, they can be beat in the air particularly at the corners. All Saints may be the best O you think you have played but they are far from it. Their QB either picked you apart or threw picks there was no in between. The game was over after the second pick 6 as his confidence was shattered and he still hung nearly 200 yards on you. without significant pressure he overthrew receivers resulting in turnovers and scores. Don't even get me started about their center rolling the ball back to him on each play. Their receivers had TD's dropped or it would have been worse.

The team that beats Brownwood will do so because they will have dominated the lines. Brownwood is very average across the lines and not particularly big. You pound them with the running game and make no mistakes and he who has the ball last will win the game. Shipley is great, Brown is good, Brownwood is beatable by the right 3A team.

I am not saying anyone will this year, because no one stands out as capable at this point, but for example, in my opinion, 08 Carthage would destroy this team for the reasons stated above.

[ctown]

Originally posted by GrTigers6
I was very dissapointed in their offense. I wanted to see some long offensive drives but all I got was 5 play drives, 3 play drives 1 play drive. :D
All kidding aside it doesnt matter how long the other team keeps the ball when you have the capability to score at will. If you have a 10 play 9 min drive for a td and the wood has a one play drive for 40 seconds the score is still 7-7.

A one play drive for 40 seconds would be a sight to behold. Since the clock wouldnt start till the snap, that leaves high school athletes trying to burn 40 seconds running around a field that would normally take 10 or 12 to cover.... Jus sayin....

[Louie13]

There have been other games this year that showed more balance between running and passing. And Shipley isn't the only good receiver. Maybe the coaches just didn't want to display all their weapons or perhaps they just wanted to "showcase" Shipley this week since the Lions were playing in this large venue and he did just get named to the Army squad. After all, he and all the other 7 receivers would catch squat if they weren't blessed with the outstand ability of Graylon Brown.
The Lions can and will improve as games get tougher, and WON'T THAT BE SCARY! GO LIONS...........

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
Brownwood <bows head> is completely and undeniably unstoppable. This is becoming more and more obvious as the season progresses. :clap: :clap:

[GrTigers6]

Originally posted by ctown
A one play drive for 40 seconds would be a sight to behold. Since the clock wouldnt start till the snap, that leaves high school athletes trying to burn 40 seconds running around a field that would normally take 10 or 12 to cover.... Jus sayin.... ok lets get technical why dont you. It was 6 am and I didnt go to bed till 1 am. Give me a break:D

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by gatordaze
My boys and I went to the game to see what all of the fuss was about and I have to admit I was a little disappointed. Brownwood is essentially their 7 on 7 team offensively with a few other guys standing around to make it 11. If its 3rd down Shipley is going to get the ball and there is not a darn thing you can do about it. Just for fun they throw it to another guy and giggle. In 7 on 7 if Shipley was not getting the ball he would take the play off. Last night he ran every play like it was coming to him and he is a very good stalk blocker particularly against a kid that knows the he is get ready to be toasted.

.

I think ur underselling their O..Last night all they had to do was throw it up to Shipley..Agianst China Springs they scored at will and Jaxon had 2 catches 9 yards.

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I think ur underselling their O..Last night all they had to do was throw it up to Shipley..Agianst China Springs they scored at will and Jaxon had 2 catches 9 yards.

Not underselling their O at all. 3rd down is 3rd and Shipley and nothing can be done to stop it.

If he did not do much against CS it was because they did not need him to. In a big game he will be the man and wont be stopped.

[Rocket]

Gatordaze-

Go look at Stephenville's size on the OLine. What you don't understand is the thought processes behind Brownwood's schemes and playcalling. I really don't expect anybody to. The defense has held their own, and like Beast said, Brownwood has done the same thing to every team they played.

If a team is in the game at halftime, Brownwood will come out with adjustments made and burn any team. The opposing defenses are not going to be able to keep up for 4 Qtrs with that many weapons covering that many weapons. And if Brownwood wants to, they will POUND the ball with the run.

What you saw last night would happen to Celina too. It's just the truth. ;)

[jason]

just a question...

any worries on the brownwood side about the team getting winded late in a game if they have to play effectively for 4 quarters to win?

i know they are in shape - but how many times have they played more than halfway through the 3rd qtr?

maybe vs stephenville was all?

[Ernest T Bass]

Final?

[hollywood]

Originally posted by jason
just a question...

any worries on the brownwood side about the team getting winded late in a game if they have to play effectively for 4 quarters to win?

i know they are in shape - but how many times have they played more than halfway through the 3rd qtr?

maybe vs stephenville was all?

Very realistic question from an outsider. The game against Sville proved that they are very capable of putting it away in the forth. What they do during the week takes care of that.

[Ernest T Bass]

Originally posted by hollywood
Very realistic question from an outsider. The game against Sville proved that they are very capable of putting it away in the forth. What they do during the week takes care of that.

Can't speak for Brownwood specificially, but just from my own experience. That usually boils down to the kids themselves. Some kids just have that killer instinct to finish off their opponent. Ive spent an ungodly amount of time trying to figure out how to coach that, but Im not sure you can. I think it's just called having "it".

[hollywood]

Originally posted by hollywood
If I were an outsider and this was my first BW game to see, I really wouldn't know what to think other than they can score on any given play. IMHO, Stephenville is the ONLY team that has truly challenged BW this season. That being said, they rise to the occasion when called upon.

Please refer to my statement above. Stephenville is the only team to have even come close to challenging this years Lions. Sville's O-line averages 260 and their D-line averages 245 with one helacious nose guard that is a beast at 275 lbs. Look what happened.

As I said before, if I were an outsider and this was my first BW game to see, I really wouldn't know what to think other than they can score on any given play. I can understand the point of view with some of you walking away thinking, I really wasn't that impressed. The thing you have to remember is that this was the weakest team they have faced so far with out a doubt. BW's 2's could have gone out and won this game. No disrespect to All Saints, but true.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Ernest T Bass
Can't speak for Brownwood specificially, but just from my own experience. That usually boils down to the kids themselves. Some kids just have that killer instinct to finish off their opponent. Ive spent an ungodly amount of time trying to figure out how to coach that, but Im not sure you can. I think it's just called having "it".

And a very good strength and conditioning program.;)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Rocket
Gatordaze-

What you saw last night would happen to Celina too. It's just the truth. ;) Really???? I hope we all get to see this game on the same field you played on last night. Depending on you Wylie to continue as you are!

[hollywood]

Originally posted by bobcat1 [i/]I wouldn't say that. They haven't played a good defense yet but will hopefully. Not sure they have played a potent offense yet either. They have the studs though and a good coach. [QUOTE]

Really??? Have you watched any of the other games BW has played? lol


[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bobcat1
Really???? I hope we all get to see this game on the same field you played on last night. Depending on you Wylie to continue as you are!

Me too. I'm glad you were able to watch this game. Keep thinking what you are thinking about this BW team and maybe your wish will come true.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by gatordaze
Not underselling their O at all. 3rd down is 3rd and Shipley and nothing can be done to stop it.

If he did not do much against CS it was because they did not need him to. In a big game he will be the man and wont be stopped.

Or, if Shipley is doubled or tripled it'll be Chastain, Harth, Ellis, Ratliff, Longoria, Perez, or even Brown on a QB keeper. Here's the key, this team plays well as a TEAM. Brown is the difference maker. He is very clutch.

Defensively, they had a few that were not 100%. They will be by next week. ;)

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by hollywood
Me too. I'm glad you were able to watch this game. Keep thinking what you are thinking about this BW team and maybe your wish will come true. I didn't watch this one. Just an observation from stats. Have you watched Celina play?

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by bobcat1
I didn't watch this one. Just an observation from stats. Have you watched Celina play?


We dont have to watch Celina play or even see the stats to know they are a very good team. We also know we have a very good team. Funny thing is you are making your observations from the stats on a game that our JV got to play in. Not just our 2nd and 3rd stringers but for people that were at the game, in the last quarter if you saw kids on the field that did not have the leaping lion on ther helment, they were JV kids that Coach Shipley put on the field last night.

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
We dont have to watch Celina play or even see the stats to know they are a very good team. We also know we have a very good team. Funny thing is you are making your observations from the stats on a game that our JV got to play in. Not just our 2nd and 3rd stringers but for people that were at the game, in the last quarter if you saw kids on the field that did not have the leaping lion on ther helment, they were JV kids that Coach Shipley put on the field last night. Contrare' my friend. After listening last night I pulled a few observations in the first quarter. The Lions can be driven on if you play mistake free ball. The Lions do make mistakes and have penalties.

Believe me I know how talented and well coached Brownwood is. They have a rich tradition and I respect that immensely. I would welcome an opportunity to see them play a well coached team that could eliminate costly mistakes and penalties. Will we see that this year, who knows. Sure would be a fun week though! Cheers!

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
We dont have to watch Celina play or even see the stats to know they are a very good team. We also know we have a very good team. Funny thing is you are making your observations from the stats on a game that our JV got to play in. Not just our 2nd and 3rd stringers but for people that were at the game, in the last quarter if you saw kids on the field that did not have the leaping lion on ther helment, they were JV kids that Coach Shipley put on the field last night.

I watched your starting CB get burned more than once in the first qtr. Thats enough to know that not ever player on th team plays mistake free ball. I like Celina's chances to move the ball on that D that played last night in the 1st qtr.

Bwood has weaknesses that MAY be exploitable. Their strengths may make up for those weaknesses.

[garciap77]

Congrats BW!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[hollywood]

Originally posted by gatordaze
I watched your starting CB get burned more than once in the first qtr. Thats enough to know that not ever player on th team plays mistake free ball. I like Celina's chances to move the ball on that D that played last night in the 1st qtr.

Bwood has weaknesses that MAY be exploitable. Their strengths may make up for those weaknesses.

Good observation. You saw that too. Brownwood's pass D still needs a little work. But, you have to give a little credit to All Saints as well. To defend, this is the first spread O they have seen this season. If All Saints had receivers that could catch, they might have scored more. But, it could have also been the INT's from the secondary that took a couple of TD's away as well.

As far as the run, there are very few teams that will be able to run on BW's D.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by garciap77
Congrats BW!!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:
:clap: :wave: :thumbsup: :2thumbsup :iagree:

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by hollywood
As far as the run, there are very few teams that will be able to run on BW's D. And that is all it takes is one.:p

[BEAST]

Originally posted by gatordaze
My boys and I went to the game to see what all of the fuss was about and I have to admit I was a little disappointed. Brownwood is essentially their 7 on 7 team offensively with a few other guys standing around to make it 11. If its 3rd down Shipley is going to get the ball and there is not a darn thing you can do about it. Just for fun they throw it to another guy and giggle. In 7 on 7 if Shipley was not getting the ball he would take the play off. Last night he ran every play like it was coming to him and he is a very good stalk blocker particularly against a kid that knows the he is get ready to be toasted.

Gatordaze,
I remember you telling me there was no way we would the State 7 on 7 Champoinship using our normal offense, well we did. See, we use 7 on 7 for practice. I think its paid off. You saw last night Shipley putting his show on. Last week, not so much from Shipley. 2 for 9 and 0 Tds and we still hung 65. We havent really started using our real running game yet, we hadnt had to. Been to easy to go 7 on 7 style and score in bunches.

Maybe you guys should try using 7 on 7 to actually practice the pass plays you will be using in real football. I think you'd be surprised how much it helps.




BEAST

[BEAST]

Originally posted by gatordaze


The team that beats Brownwood will do so because they will have dominated the lines. Brownwood is very average across the lines and not particularly big. You pound them with the running game and make no mistakes and he who has the ball last will win the game. Shipley is great, Brown is good, Brownwood is beatable by the right 3A team.

If a ball control offense is going to beat us, they had better score every time they have the ball, and not have 1 turnover. If they fail to score, they will be down by 2 tds. If they add a turnover in there, they'll be down 3 tds. The ball control O can be your own worst enemy if you are not very careful.




BEAST

[BEAST]

Originally posted by gatordaze


Defensively, they can be beat in the air particularly at the corners. All Saints may be the best O you think you have played but they are far from it. Their QB either picked you apart or threw picks there was no in between. The game was over after the second pick 6 as his confidence was shattered and he still hung nearly 200 yards on you. without significant pressure he overthrew receivers resulting in turnovers and scores. Don't even get me started about their center rolling the ball back to him on each play. Their receivers had TD's dropped or it would have been worse.


At the end of the first half, we had right at 300 yards of O and 45 points. They had right 100 yards of O and 6 points. Im not going to count the 2nd half when literally our JV kids got playing time. Im not real sure Id call those stats picking us apart. They had 1 play where Vacarro and Longoria each thought the other had the coverage and neither did. If you want to take your chances throwing on those two, be my guest.




BEAST

[95mustang]

Originally posted by BEAST
At the end of the first half, we had right at 300 yards of O and 45 points. They had right 100 yards of O and 6 points. Im not going to count the 2nd half when literally our JV kids got playing time. Im not real sure Id call those stats picking us apart. They had 1 play where Vacarro and Longoria each thought the other had the coverage and neither did. If you want to take your chances throwing on those two, be my guest.




BEAST

:D

[garciap77]

BW is going to win state! Only lost will be to Wylie!:D

[95mustang]

Originally posted by garciap77
Only lost will be to Wylie!:D

Better give Nobogey his beverage back Garcia. :D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by 95mustang
Better give Nobogey his beverage back Garcia. :D

LOL


:D

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BEAST
If a ball control offense is going to beat us, they had better score every time they have the ball, and not have 1 turnover. If they fail to score, they will be down by 2 tds. If they add a turnover in there, they'll be down 3 tds. The ball control O can be your own worst enemy if you are not very careful.




BEAST

Beast, if you're team doesn't get the ball until two minutes left in the first quarter and is down 7-0...:nerd:

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Beast, if you're team doesn't get the ball until two minutes left in the first quarter and is down 7-0...:nerd:

Then with 1:30 left in the first it will be tied at 7

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Beast, if you're team doesn't get the ball until two minutes left in the first quarter and is down 7-0...:nerd:

It will be 7-7 at the 1:56 mark in the 1stQ. :nerd: :nerd:

[Tin Cup]

Beat me to it lookin

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
It will be 7-7 at the 1:56 mark in the 1stQ. :nerd: :nerd:


Originally posted by Looking4number8
Then with 1:30 left in the first it will be tied at 7


Then your team gets the ball back with four minutes left in the half... down 14-7.

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
Beat me to it lookin

sorry, it was just too easy

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
sorry, it was just too easy

Sorry, L4n8... I didn't see your post. Same thing, though.:p

[Tin Cup]

Originally posted by SintonFan
Sorry, L4n8... I didn't see your post. Same thing, though.:p

You fumbled the kickoff we got it back and scored. Now you're playing catchup and we get the ball to start the half. We go up 21-7 and the game is over lol. The end

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Tin Cup
You fumbled the kickoff we got it back and scored. Now you're playing catchup and we get the ball to start the half. We go up 21-7 and the game is over lol. The end




Originally posted by SintonFan
Then your team gets the ball back with four minutes left in the half... down 14-7.

Sorry buddy.
I know you don't like where this is going, so you just change the rules.:p

[BEAST]

No. You're being hypothetical. So are they. Nobodys going to mount a 10:00 dive on us.




BEAST

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BEAST
No. You're being hypothetical. So are they. Nobodys going to mount a 10:00 dive on us.




BEAST

Never say never...
didn't Rome fall in a day???:p

[bobcat1]

Originally posted by BEAST
No. You're being hypothetical. So are they. Nobodys going to mount a 10:00 dive on us.




BEAST Really? Nobody? Are you saying it doesn't take that long to score or what?:p

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by bobcat1
Really? Nobody? Are you saying it doesn't take that long to score or what?:p

No, I don't think he was saying that. I think Celina is ranked number two and CELINA SUCKS.... Dude, dont you have an orange game to watch or something.

[BEAST]

There isn't a team in 3A capable of going 10:00 against us with out being either stopped, have a turnover, or yes score. 10:00 minute drives?? Oh yes, they happen all the time. What, you get 3 yards every play and go for it on 4th down. Think about it. You guys are grasping at straws.




BEAST

[cowboyandchrist]

Can Not wait until Brownwood plays the speed from the east, we will see how often you score against East Texas speed. To bad my Tatum Eagles will not get a shot at the Brownwood Lions. Don't know if we are as good as our 05 team yet, but we are much faster, rotate 11 linemen and four tail backs. Wishful thinking, it would be a great ball game.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by BEAST
There isn't a team in 3A capable of going 10:00 against us with out being either stopped, have a turnover, or yes score. 10:00 minute drives?? Oh yes, they happen all the time. What, you get 3 yards every play and go for it on 4th down. Think about it. You guys are grasping at straws.




BEAST

The bigger they are...:o

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by SintonFan
The bigger they are...:o

......the more butt they kick.......

[95mustang]

Originally posted by SintonFan
The bigger they are...:o

Yep the smaller the other team looks. :D

[BEAST]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
Can Not wait until Brownwood plays the speed from the east, we will see how often you score against East Texas speed. To bad my Tatum Eagles will not get a shot at the Brownwood Lions. Don't know if we are as good as our 05 team yet, but we are much faster, rotate 11 linemen and four tail backs. Wishful thinking, it would be a great ball game.

I can't wait either. East may have speed but IQ?? Anyway, we will handle that little situation when we get there.




BEAST

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by 95mustang
Yep the smaller the other team looks. :D


Originally posted by Looking4number8
......the more butt they kick.......

lol
I should have known.:doh:

I AM NOT anti-Brownwood, btw. It is just that the arrogance is becoming a little like 3rd day French Bread.:doh:

...and the harder they fall.:nerd:

[hollywood]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
Can Not wait until Brownwood plays the speed from the east, we will see how often you score against East Texas speed. To bad my Tatum Eagles will not get a shot at the Brownwood Lions. Don't know if we are as good as our 05 team yet, but we are much faster, rotate 11 linemen and four tail backs. Wishful thinking, it would be a great ball game.

LOL. speed from East Texas? What speed? You don't think Brownwood has speed? Do you know anything about Brownwood? You are clueless! Oh my...

[hollywood]

Originally posted by SintonFan
lol
I should have known.:doh:

I AM NOT anti-Brownwood, btw. It is just that the arrogance is becoming a little like 3rd day French Bread.:doh:

...and the harder they fall.:nerd:

Seriously? We're just enjoying this ride these kids are giving us fans. They are doing all the work. We just get to talk smack about it. :D

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by SintonFan
lol
I should have known.:doh:

I AM NOT anti-Brownwood, btw. It is just that the arrogance is becoming a little like 3rd day French Bread.:doh:

...and the harder they fall.:nerd:


i can understand that but you guys have to understand some of us that have tried to be less arrogant are getting pretty sick and tired of all the haters. You cant expect us not to defend the team we love.

[BEAST]

Originally posted by hollywood
LOL. speed from East Texas? What speed? You don't think Brownwood has speed? Do you know anything about Brownwood? You are clueless! Oh my...

Hey Hollywood, did LaMarque have speed when The Ville was spanking that a$$ in the title games?




BEAST

[95mustang]

Originally posted by SintonFan
lol
I should have known.:doh:

I AM NOT anti-Brownwood, btw. It is just that the arrogance is becoming a little like 3rd day French Bread.:doh:

...and the harder they fall.:nerd:

What do you expect to happen when you call us out?

[hollywood]

Originally posted by BEAST
Hey Hollywood, did LaMarque have speed when The Ville was spanking that a$$ in the title games?




BEAST

LOL. That's exactly what I was thinking when I first read his post. That's all LaMarque could talk about. How much speed they had. Sville vs LaMarque... 3-0! LOL

[cowboyandchrist]

Let me see, Speed from the east= 03,04,05,06,08,09, state champs. All within 50 miles of each other, I would say speed helps. Brownwood is ranked number1 for a reason. They are good, just look at the scores they have been putting up. I just think it would be a great ball game to see an East Texas team play Brownwood.

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
Let me see, Speed from the east= 03,04,05,06,08,09, state champs. All within 50 miles of each other, I would say speed helps. Brownwood is ranked number1 for a reason. They are good, just look at the scores they have been putting up. I just think it would be a great ball game to see an East Texas team play Brownwood.

I'll agree east Texas is loaded with speed, but so is this Brownwood team... fastest team we've put on a field since I've been alive.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by 95mustang
What do you expect to happen when you call us out?

I didn't think I was calling out anything. Just thought I was addressing the "elephant" bigger than Texas.:nerd:

[Txbroadcaster]

Look for most it is not about hating on Bwood..it is about Bwood being one of if not the best team in 3A..so people want to know IF they can be beat how will it happen.


Same thing happen last year with Gilmer, people were trying to find chinks in the armor...Same with carthage...Same with LH during their run.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by SintonFan
lol
I should have known.:doh:

I AM NOT anti-Brownwood, btw. It is just that the arrogance is becoming a little like 3rd day French Bread.:doh:

...and the harder they fall.:nerd:

And if we lose do you think that changes anything? You people are so emotional. It's just like the Sideline to Sideline guys said on their Brownwood Edition Show, "if we were Brownwood fans, we would be talking smack like none other."

I have talked smack since Day 1 on this board. At the same level as I am now. 3-7, 10-3. Did it change my faith in the Lions? Nope.

So if Brownwood loses I know I won't slow down and it won't humble my belief that we are going to win. Never. A bad night does not constitute a bad team or even a weaker team. It's just who was better that night.

You emotional little girls need to get over it. Quit trying to put us in check. Until a team stops Brownwood, guess what, they are unstoppable. All you East Texas fans are crying cuz you aren't the cream of the crop. Let's play it by this year, quit quoting what you did do, its 2010. Man up...

[50 yard line fan]

Good morning Rocket.

[Trashman]

Originally posted by Rocket
And if we lose do you think that changes anything? You people are so emotional. It's just like the Sideline to Sideline guys said on their Brownwood Edition Show, "if we were Brownwood fans, we would be talking smack like none other."

I have talked smack since Day 1 on this board. At the same level as I am now. 3-7, 10-3. Did it change my faith in the Lions? Nope.

So if Brownwood loses I know I won't slow down and it won't humble my belief that we are going to win. Never. A bad night does not constitute a bad team or even a weaker team. It's just who was better that night.

You emotional little girls need to get over it. Quit trying to put us in check. Until a team stops Brownwood, guess what, they are unstoppable. All you East Texas fans are crying cuz you aren't the cream of the crop. Let's play it by this year, quit quoting what you did do, its 2010. Man up...

:clap: :eek: :clap: :eek: :doh: :devil:

[cowboyandchrist]

Good morning Rocket, you are a true Brownwood supporter no doubt about that, but remember there is a storm brewing in the east and it should reach the Brownwood area sometime in December. It comes with speed you have not seen yet. You may weather the storm and come through with a championship, but I would make sure all windows and doors are closed tight and you have a generator handy.

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Rocket
And if we lose do you think that changes anything? You people are so emotional. It's just like the Sideline to Sideline guys said on their Brownwood Edition Show, "if we were Brownwood fans, we would be talking smack like none other."

I have talked smack since Day 1 on this board. At the same level as I am now. 3-7, 10-3. Did it change my faith in the Lions? Nope.

So if Brownwood loses I know I won't slow down and it won't humble my belief that we are going to win. Never. A bad night does not constitute a bad team or even a weaker team. It's just who was better that night.

You emotional little girls need to get over it. Quit trying to put us in check. Until a team stops Brownwood, guess what, they are unstoppable. All you East Texas fans are crying cuz you aren't the cream of the crop. Let's play it by this year, quit quoting what you did do, its 2010. Man up...

AMEN Brother, I applaud your dedication to the LIONS!!!! I don't know if B Wood will win the SC but they'll get the chance. They are the real deal.

[Tin Cup]

I completely understand why east Texas has the stance that they will win it all again. What I don't understand is who the team from east Texas will be. For example, last year we knew it was Carthage and Gilmer as the favorites. This year, I'm clueless on who the team to beat is. My point is that we know how good east Texas has been in the past, but this isn't the past. I don't know for certain who will win it all and neither does anyone else. But typically there is without question a favorite just like Gilmer last year. I just don't see that dominant team out east this year. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
Good morning Rocket, you are a true Brownwood supporter no doubt about that, but remember there is a storm brewing in the east and it should reach the Brownwood area sometime in December. It comes with speed you have not seen yet. You may weather the storm and come through with a championship, but I would make sure all windows and doors are closed tight and you have a generator handy.

" It comes with speed you havent seen yet", You east texas guys need to batten down your hatches, Brownwood is going to sink your boat!Their windows are open and their doors ajar, and they don't need a generator they are playing lights out!! Been their done that have the stinking tee shirt!!

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Rocket
And if we lose do you think that changes anything? You people are so emotional. It's just like the Sideline to Sideline guys said on their Brownwood Edition Show, "if we were Brownwood fans, we would be talking smack like none other."

I have talked smack since Day 1 on this board. At the same level as I am now. 3-7, 10-3. Did it change my faith in the Lions? Nope.

So if Brownwood loses I know I won't slow down and it won't humble my belief that we are going to win. Never. A bad night does not constitute a bad team or even a weaker team. It's just who was better that night.

You emotional little girls need to get over it. Quit trying to put us in check. Until a team stops Brownwood, guess what, they are unstoppable. All you East Texas fans are crying cuz you aren't the cream of the crop. Let's play it by this year, quit quoting what you did do, its 2010. Man up...

lol
:rolleyes:

[Rocket]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
Good morning Rocket, you are a true Brownwood supporter no doubt about that, but remember there is a storm brewing in the east and it should reach the Brownwood area sometime in December. It comes with speed you have not seen yet. You may weather the storm and come through with a championship, but I would make sure all windows and doors are closed tight and you have a generator handy.

East Texas hasn't seen a team like Brownwood. WAY TOO MANY WEAPONS to stop Brownwood. It will take a good team, and that good team isn't in 3A... ;)

[Tromboneking]

I hope Brownwood enjoys this season...because they are going to graduate a ton of great players this year...and they will be a young inexperienced team next year.

I will say this...there was a post on this board earlier about Bwood and Bridgeport...who was better. I have seen both teams this year..and Brownwood would not have too much of a problem with the Bulls.

[cowboyandchrist]

I will make it point to go see Brownwood this year. I love to watch teams that no one can beat in 3a. Rocket have you seen any team from the east play this year. There is another Lion team from Henderson that could be a stumbling block. We will see.

[bigwood33]

Won't Henderson be Division 1? If so, they will not meet. Carthage or Gilmer appear to be the big boys out east that will make late noise in the playoffs but don't discount Argyle. I didn't think they could be better this year than last but I may just be wrong. We play them week after next and I will have a better handle on how they stack up with last years team.

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by Tromboneking
I hope Brownwood enjoys this season...because they are going to graduate a ton of great players this year...and they will be a young inexperienced team next year.

I will say this...there was a post on this board earlier about Bwood and Bridgeport...who was better. I have seen both teams this year..and Brownwood would not have too much of a problem with the Bulls.

While we will graduate a lot, we will return our stud running back, backup QB (who started and won 2 games last year as a soph), and vaccaro is back on the defense. While we probably won't be anywhere near like we are this year, we will be talented enough to be a playoff team. We also have a couple of other underclassmen junior RBs who are pretty good.

[Tin Cup]

Argyle DII? Sorry don't know who is in their district but I thought they were DI

[bigwood33]

Sanger and Gainesville are both bigger. Of course it depends on who make the playoffs but I would think that at least 1 of them would. That would put Argyle in D-II

[Tin Cup]

Thanks

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Been their done that have the stinking tee shirt!! Does it say runner up??:D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by hollywood
LOL. speed from East Texas? What speed? You don't think Brownwood has speed? Do you know anything about Brownwood? You are clueless! Oh my... Didn't Bwood finish a distant 8th out of 8 teams in the 4x100 in Austin:confused: :confused:

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Didn't Bwood finish a distant 8th out of 8 teams in the 4x100 in Austin:confused: :confused:

True we did. of course one of the runners was trying to both play in the baseball playoff game and the State track meet but because of weather delays in baseball did not make the track meet. I belive Longoria ( who was at the state tournament for shot put) ran his leg. Longoria is no slow poke but not world class speed... Also, they made the state meet.. thats plenty good right there

[LionKing]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Didn't Bwood finish a distant 8th out of 8 teams in the 4x100 in Austin:confused: :confused: The state meet time they ran if I remember correctly was almost a second slower than the best time they ran during track season.

[Bosqueville]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Didn't Bwood finish a distant 8th out of 8 teams in the 4x100 in Austin:confused: :confused:

LE... Are you trying to find fault in the relay team for making it to state? Really?

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Bosqueville
LE... Are you trying to find fault in the relay team for making it to state? Really? Please read the post to which I replied. Then read my reply in it's context. That was a good comparison of East vs West speed... Nothing more nothing less.:)

[BEAST]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Please read the post to which I replied. Then read my reply in it's context. That was a good comparison of East vs West speed... Nothing more nothing less.:)

First off, we are not West Texas. We are in the dead center of Texas. Next, track fast and football fast are 2 different things. We have football speed. Let me explain, we can run just as fast with the pads on as we can with the pads off. Give or take a tenth or two. Again, I see y'all grasping at straws. We will spread all those fast boys out and do work. We fear you not.



BEAST

[zebrablue2]

posts about track and next season for the wood!! what has this thread come to?

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by zebrablue2
what has this thread come to?

Hopefully a close

[Ranger Mom]

Ahhhh!! That "famous" East Texas speed!!

I remember back in 2002 (yes, I have to go back that far because that was the last time we made it far enough to play an East Texas team....but I digress) all I heard on THIS board is how our slow West Texas boys had never seen the speed we were going to get hit with....blah blah blah.

Yeah....Greenwood had a great run, but they were gonna be stopped DEAD in their tracks by a team with speed from Daingerfield.

Let me think.....oh yeah...it was a Greenwood SHUT OUT against "speed".

What?? you say?? A West Texas team was actually able to stay on the same field with a team "with speed" from East Texas?? Surely you jest!!!!

That was my first "taste" of East Texas speed....and I wasn't really all that impressed!!! I sure wasn't impressed with the little "melee" they started with 34 seconds left while Greenwood was trying to take a knee causing the refs to call the game then. I must say though, they didn't go down with without fight...literally :hand:

GO BROWNWOOD!!!

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Rocket
And if we lose do you think that changes anything? You people are so emotional. It's just like the Sideline to Sideline guys said on their Brownwood Edition Show, "if we were Brownwood fans, we would be talking smack like none other."

I have talked smack since Day 1 on this board. At the same level as I am now. 3-7, 10-3. Did it change my faith in the Lions? Nope.

So if Brownwood loses I know I won't slow down and it won't humble my belief that we are going to win. Never. A bad night does not constitute a bad team or even a weaker team. It's just who was better that night.

You emotional little girls need to get over it. Quit trying to put us in check. Until a team stops Brownwood, guess what, they are unstoppable. All you East Texas fans are crying cuz you aren't the cream of the crop. Let's play it by this year, quit quoting what you did do, its 2010. Man up...

Wylie will beat Brownwood!:D

[Rocket]

Originally posted by garciap77
Wylie will beat Brownwood!:D

In volleyball :rolleyes:

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Ahhhh!! That "famous" East Texas speed!!

I remember back in 2002 (yes, I have to go back that far because that was the last time we made it far enough to play an East Texas team....but I digress) all I heard on THIS board is how our slow West Texas boys had never seen the speed we were going to get hit with....blah blah blah.

Yeah....Greenwood had a great run, but they were gonna be stopped DEAD in their tracks by a team with speed from Daingerfield.

Let me think.....oh yeah...it was a Greenwood SHUT OUT against "speed".

What?? you say?? A West Texas team was actually able to stay on the same field with a team "with speed" from East Texas?? Surely you jest!!!!

That was my first "taste" of East Texas speed....and I wasn't really all that impressed!!! I sure wasn't impressed with the little "melee" they started with 34 seconds left while Greenwood was trying to take a knee causing the refs to call the game then. I must say though, they didn't go down with without fight...literally :hand:

GO BROWNWOOD!!!


Growing up in East Texas we always heard about the strength of the West Texas teams..That when u played a West Texas team they would grind you down

In 1988 we played Permian and we were expecting these 6'5 300 pound monsters because again we heard all West Texas teams were scary strong. We were shocked when we saw game film and they were actually not that big lol.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Growing up in East Texas we always heard about the strength of the West Texas teams..That when u played a West Texas team they would grind you down

In 1988 we played Permian and we were expecting these 6'5 300 pound monsters because again we heard all West Texas teams were scary strong. We were shocked when we saw game film and they were actually not that big lol.

I honestly don't think you can tell how 2 teams are gonna line up...until they line up!!

Yeah...on paper, Daingerfield should have beat us, just like we should have beat Bandera the next week for all the marbles.....but, we know how that turned out!!!

There are just way too many variables, IMO!

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by BEAST
Gatordaze,
I remember you telling me there was no way we would the State 7 on 7 Champoinship using our normal offense, well we did. See, we use 7 on 7 for practice. I think its paid off. You saw last night Shipley putting his show on. Last week, not so much from Shipley. 2 for 9 and 0 Tds and we still hung 65. We havent really started using our real running game yet, we hadnt had to. Been to easy to go 7 on 7 style and score in bunches.

Maybe you guys should try using 7 on 7 to actually practice the pass plays you will be using in real football. I think you'd be surprised how much it helps.
BEAST

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Celina has more passing yards this season than i think they've ever had in six games. The leading receiver in NT in 3A and under (yards, receptions) is a Bobcat.

It seems to me at least that some lessons have been learned from 7-on-7.

But of course you already knew that, right?

[cowboyandchrist]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Ahhhh!! That "famous" East Texas speed!!

I remember back in 2002 (yes, I have to go back that far because that was the last time we made it far enough to play an East Texas team....but I digress) all I heard on THIS board is how our slow West Texas boys had never seen the speed we were going to get hit with....blah blah blah.

Yeah....Greenwood had a great run, but they were gonna be stopped DEAD in their tracks by a team with speed from Daingerfield.

Let me think.....oh yeah...it was a Greenwood SHUT OUT against "speed".

What?? you say?? A West Texas team was actually able to stay on the same field with a team "with speed" from East Texas?? Surely you jest!!!!

That was my first "taste" of East Texas speed....and I wasn't really all that impressed!!! I sure wasn't impressed with the little "melee" they started with 34 seconds left while Greenwood was trying to take a knee causing the refs to call the game then. I must say though, they didn't go down with without fight...literally :hand:

GO BROWNWOOD!!!

You are correct, but even you know some times a team just plays better and wins even if they were not suppose too. You did have to go back a long ways to prove your point. I will take team speed over size any day. One play and it is to the house for six.
Good example is this year, I hear Brownwood has the fastest team thay have ever had. I wish we were 3a this year. We have what we have never had at Tatum before and that is size, depth, and by far the fastest team we have put on the field. We have always been fast, just never had depth. This year we rotate 11 linemen and four tail backs. We are very very good. Are we good enough, we will find out. I would love to play Brownwood, It would be a great ball game.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Ahhhh!! That "famous" East Texas speed!!

I remember back in 2002 (yes, I have to go back that far because that was the last time we made it far enough to play an East Texas team....but I digress) all I heard on THIS board is how our slow West Texas boys had never seen the speed we were going to get hit with....blah blah blah.

Yeah....Greenwood had a great run, but they were gonna be stopped DEAD in their tracks by a team with speed from Daingerfield.

Let me think.....oh yeah...it was a Greenwood SHUT OUT against "speed".

What?? you say?? A West Texas team was actually able to stay on the same field with a team "with speed" from East Texas?? Surely you jest!!!!

That was my first "taste" of East Texas speed....and I wasn't really all that impressed!!! I sure wasn't impressed with the little "melee" they started with 34 seconds left while Greenwood was trying to take a knee causing the refs to call the game then. I must say though, they didn't go down with without fight...literally :hand:

GO BROWNWOOD!!!

Awesome post. So true.

[Rocket]

I don't care about speed alone, or D1 athletes. How good are the coaches? How good is the QB? Do they EXECUTE well? Are they football smart? Or are they just running around fast? Lol shuttup about speed. Speed under control is better. That's why Gilmer spanked Dfield. It's not about D1s or speed, it's about coaching and execution.

[Daddy D 11]

Most East Texas teams I have seen play lack discipline and/or the ability to actually execute whatever it may be they are wanting to do.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Most East Texas teams I have seen play lack discipline and/or the ability to actually execute whatever it may be they are wanting to do.

I have to ask..what east texas teams are you talking about? I have not heard many say East Texas teams play with lack of discipline.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Rocket
I don't care about speed alone, or D1 athletes. How good are the coaches? How good is the QB? Do they EXECUTE well? Are they football smart? Or are they just running around fast? Lol shuttup about speed. Speed under control is better. That's why Gilmer spanked Dfield. It's not about D1s or speed, it's about coaching and execution.
Let's see...

Gilmer Carthage and LE HCs all have 2 SCs.... How bout ya'lls:thinking: :D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Most East Texas teams I have seen play lack discipline and/or the ability to actually execute whatever it may be they are wanting to do. You need to start watching different ET teams then.:p :D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by garciap77
Wylie will beat Brownwood!:D :D

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Most East Texas teams I have seen play lack discipline and/or the ability to actually execute whatever it may be they are wanting to do.

Lol

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Rocket
I don't care about speed alone, or D1 athletes. How good are the coaches? How good is the QB? Do they EXECUTE well? Are they football smart? Or are they just running around fast? Lol shuttup about speed. Speed under control is better. That's why Gilmer spanked Dfield. It's not about D1s or speed, it's about coaching and execution.


I think we all agree your basic idea..but I do disagree abou why Gilmer beat D-Field..it was as much DEPTH and execution as it was coaching and execution

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Rocket
In volleyball :rolleyes:

:D :D :D

[Rocket]

Oh look, Wylie wins and guess who shows up. Garcia. The Garcia Theory in full effect.

Good to taste victory again huh, Garcia? Been a while... Lol

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Rocket
Oh look, Wylie wins and guess who shows up. Garcia. The Garcia Theory in full effect.

Good to taste victory again huh, Garcia? Been a while... Lol

It's great to taste victory!!!!LOL

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
You are correct, but even you know some times a team just plays better and wins even if they were not suppose too. You did have to go back a long ways to prove your point. I will take team speed over size any day. One play and it is to the house for six.
Good example is this year, I hear Brownwood has the fastest team thay have ever had. I wish we were 3a this year. We have what we have never had at Tatum before and that is size, depth, and by far the fastest team we have put on the field. We have always been fast, just never had depth. This year we rotate 11 linemen and four tail backs. We are very very good. Are we good enough, we will find out. I would love to play Brownwood, It would be a great ball game.

As I stated, I HAD to go back that far because that was the last time we (Greenwood) have made it far enough to play an East Texas team!!

My point was....for a solid week I heard how there was NO way we would make it past the next week.....NO WAY!!!

We are the ones who stopped that East Texas speed IN IT'S TRACKS!!! We weren't big, we weren't as fast, but we had tons of discipline and heart.

You are going into depth trying to convince me of something you never will be able to.....I saw that famed East Texas speed that for an entire week 98% of this board didn't think we would be able to stop...but we did. I wasn't impressed with it!!!

I am glad Tatum is doing so well, I hope they continue to do so....but that still has zero to do with the point I was trying to convey!!

[hollywood]

Who does All Saints have next week? Oh, sorry, thought this was a Brwonwood/All Saints thread. Lol

[ccmom]

Originally posted by hollywood
Who does All Saints have next week? Oh, sorry, thought this was a Brwonwood/All Saints thread. Lol :fnypost:

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by hollywood
Who does All Saints have next week? Oh, sorry, thought this was a Brwonwood/All Saints thread. Lol

Hey!! In a round about way, I was talking about Brownwood!! I did say "GO BROWNWOOD" in my first post!!:D

I don't have a clue who All Saints have next week, had never even heard of them until yall played them!!

On the other hand, I am going to the Snyder/Brownwood game in 2 weeks...I am excited!!

[bwdlionfan]

Originally posted by hollywood
Who does All Saints have next week? Oh, sorry, thought this was a Brwonwood/All Saints thread. Lol

lol

but to answer your question... All Saints plays at Ft Worth Trinity Valley... which is their big rival game according to their coach when Sideline to Sideline interviewed him.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
Hey!! In a round about way, I was talking about Brownwood!! I did say "GO BROWNWOOD" in my first post!!:D

I don't have a clue who All Saints have next week, had never even heard of them until yall played them!!

On the other hand, I am going to the Snyder/Brownwood game in 2 weeks...I am excited!!

Lol. Couldn't resist. Same here.

Snyder should actually be a really good game. Hope to make it out there. It'll be a late night for sure.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
lol

but to answer your question... All Saints plays at Ft Worth Trinity Valley... which is their big rival game according to their coach when Sideline to Sideline interviewed him.

Lol. It's so funny how threads get of subject sometimes. Good stuff.

[garciap77]

Originally posted by hollywood
Lol. It's so funny how threads get of subject sometimes. Good stuff.

GO Wylie Bulldogs!!!!!!!!!!!

[ccmom]

Originally posted by hollywood
Lol. Couldn't resist. Same here.

Snyder should actually be a really good game. Hope to make it out there. It'll be a late night for sure.

I think that will be a good game, too. Wylie is off that week, and I thought about making the trip to watch this game...since that's my favorite town and all. :D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by ccmom
I think that will be a good game, too. Wylie is off that week, and I thought about making the trip to watch this game...since that's my favorite town and all. :D :kiss: :kiss: You just want to check out the new powder room. :D :D

[hollywood]

Originally posted by garciap77
GO Wylie Bulldogs!!!!!!!!!!!


Whaaaaaa? :hand:

Okay, GO BULLDOGS!:clap:

[hollywood]

Originally posted by ccmom
I think that will be a good game, too. Wylie is off that week, and I thought about making the trip to watch this game...since that's my favorite town and all. :D

Not a bad trip, eh? Maybe you can talk GP77 to come out of the dog house and support the Lions, unless he's too sceered! :D

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by hollywood
Maybe you can talk GP77 to come out of the dog house and support the Lions! :D :dispntd: :dispntd: :dispntd: :dispntd:

[cowboyandchrist]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Most East Texas teams I have seen play lack discipline and/or the ability to actually execute whatever it may be they are wanting to do.
I can understand if the only East Texas teams you watched lack discipline. You may not keep up with 3a state champions. Just in case you did not know. I will list a few.
2003-Dangerfield (five time sc)
2004-Gilmer (two time sc)
2005-Tatum (two time sc)
2006-Liberty E (two time sc)
2008-Carthage (two time time sc)
2009-Carthage
2009-Gilmer
There are a few East Texas teams with discipline. This year may bring another.

[cowboyandchrist]

Sorry about that it was Alanta in 2003 and not Dangerfield.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by cowboyandchrist
I can understand if the only East Texas teams you watched lack discipline. You may not keep up with 3a state champions. Just in case you did not know. I will list a few.
2003-Dangerfield (five time sc)
2004-Gilmer (two time sc)
2005-Tatum (two time sc)
2006-Liberty E (two time sc)
2008-Carthage (two time time sc)
2009-Carthage
2009-Gilmer
There are a few East Texas teams with discipline. This year may bring another.

There's a new sheriff in town, boys. First name Brown, last name Wood. And he's coming, and Hell's coming with him.

[Gsquared]

Dang, I went and listened to the archive, we need to re-name the halftime show the Butcher Shop. I killed those stats.