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Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Can the Cowboys beat the Redskins at home in the opener?
I say Cowboys by 10 because they will be fired up to perform and Washington is still trying to figure things out. If the Cowboys are flat in this one and lose badly, there will be a media firestorm in Dallas.

SintonFan_inAustin
09-12-2010, 02:08 PM
1-0 after tonight for the Cowboys

GrTigers6
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Can the Cowboys beat the Redskins at home in the opener?
I say Cowboys by 10 because they will be fired up to perform and Washington is still trying to figure things out. If the Cowboys are flat in this one and lose badly, there will be a media firestorm in Dallas. If there is ever a game to be fired up for a division rival on opening day should be at the top of the list. Let's hope the coaches have them ready and fired up

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
I think Dallas wins..something like 24-10..close until late.

Now if they do lose..I dont think the team lets the media bother them..they went thru the firestorm last year after losing to the Giants in home opener, losing to Broncos and their 0-2 startin December..each toime they bounced back

Keith7
09-12-2010, 03:01 PM
Redskins by 14

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
Redskins by 14

What a surprise...:rolleyes: You really believe that prediction or is this just a hope?

sinton66
09-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
What a surprise...:rolleyes:

But, but, but.... Washington has Donovan McDrabb now.:D

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm a Cowboy fan, but I'm not sure if we are going to win.
As bad as it ills me to say this,,,,,Go Packers...:doh:

Trashman
09-12-2010, 03:32 PM
Cowboys by 10.:D

Keith7
09-12-2010, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
What a surprise...:rolleyes: You really believe that prediction or is this just a hope?

I believe it.. The cowgirls look weak this year

D4C
09-12-2010, 04:59 PM
cowboys win by a touchdown, the offensive coordinator needs to RUN the ball at the goal line, and the D needs to step up but still Washington on paper is a pretty good team, should be a good game

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
I believe it.. The cowgirls look weak this year

how bout them eagles, they're looking like real contenders

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
I believe it.. The cowgirls look weak this year

I like our chance against dog killer. :p

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
how bout them eagles, they're looking like real contenders

Vick looks good, I retract my previous post

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Vick looks good, I retract my previous post

Dallas defense is much faster than Green Bay's.
I hope he is the starting qb when we play them. :evil:

Keith7
09-12-2010, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Eagle 1
Dallas defense is much faster than Green Bay's.
I hope he is the starting qb when we play them. :evil:

If you really think the cowgirls defense is better than green bay's, you are dilusional

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
If you really think the cowgirls defense is better than green bay's, you are dilusional

Our run defense is definately better, the pass defense is still questionable.
Vick dont pass the ball well, so yea I guess I'm just dilusional.
TD GREEN BAY....made it look easy!

Keith7
09-12-2010, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Eagle 1
Our run defense is definately better, the pass defense is still questionable.
Vick dont pass the ball well, so yea I guess I'm just dilusional.
TD GREEN BAY....made it look easy!

Do you play on the team now?

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
Do you play on the team now?

weak....

Phil C
09-12-2010, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Vick looks good, I retract my previous post

Plus he's such a great example of being a model citizen unlike some pro athletes.

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 06:51 PM
Hey Keith....Cowboys game hasn't started yet---how did Philly do today? :D

Keith7
09-12-2010, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Hey Keith....Cowboys game hasn't started yet---how did Philly do today? :D

Almost beat everyone's pick to go to the super bowl despite 4 starters leaving the game to injury.. Did you not get to see the game?

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 07:01 PM
Green Bay is over rated, if Vick starts then its a totally different game, saw flashes of his Atlanta days and it looks good. Philly would be smart to keep Vick at the helm IMO

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
Almost beat everyone's pick to go to the super bowl despite 4 starters leaving the game to injury.. Did you not get to see the game?

Nope, NFL Sunday Ticket costs too much to watch the 2nd tier teams play...although GB may have been worth the time.

Keith7
09-12-2010, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Nope, NFL Sunday Ticket costs too much to watch the 2nd tier teams play...although GB may have been worth the time.

Lucky for you the cowgirls game is on national tv tonight so you won't need Sunday ticket

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
If you really think the cowgirls defense is better than green bay's, you are dilusional


yea I do think Dallas D is better than Green Bay's...in fact the main weakness everyone has said that the Pack has is their D.

Eagle 1
09-12-2010, 07:07 PM
Mean while back at the ranch.....

How many sacks will Dallas D have on McNabb tonight?

Keith7
09-12-2010, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
yea I do think Dallas D is better than Green Bay's...in fact the main weakness everyone has said that the Pack has is their D.

lol lol lol lol lol they only say that because thier offense is so good.. :doh:

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 07:10 PM
Keith who do you think should be starting Kolb or Vick?

Keith7
09-12-2010, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
Keith who do you think should be starting Kolb or Vick?

Vick.. The Eagles' line is weak, they need a mobile QB if we want to pass the ball like they always have

Keith7
09-12-2010, 07:44 PM
*crickets*:) ;)

99IHSMustang
09-12-2010, 07:45 PM
Washington looking good on their first drive.

coach
09-12-2010, 07:47 PM
what was garrett/romo thinking of when they killed the drive with basically the same play call two plays in a row

sinton66
09-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by coach
what was garrett/romo thinking of when they killed the drive with basically the same play call two plays in a row

Just trying to ease Dez into the game. Don't give up yet.

Old Tiger
09-12-2010, 07:52 PM
the redskin uniforms are ugly

Daddy D 11
09-12-2010, 07:55 PM
jesus are we gonna give up on that bryant screen play or what?

99IHSMustang
09-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Is Romo trying to get Dez Bryant killed... what are these stupid flats passes they keep doing.

Keith7
09-12-2010, 07:56 PM
refs clearly on the girls side

coach
09-12-2010, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by coach
what was garrett/romo thinking of when they killed the drive with basically the same play call two plays in a row

and 3rd time is not a charm throw that out of the playbook

Old Tiger
09-12-2010, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by 99IHSMustang
Is Romo trying to get Dez Bryant killed... what are these stupid flats passes they keep doing. confidence builders?

Daddy D 11
09-12-2010, 07:58 PM
romo left roy williams out to dry big time too lol

Keith7
09-12-2010, 08:01 PM
too soon to call bryant a bust?

Daddy D 11
09-12-2010, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
too soon to call bryant a bust?

lol:stirpot:

coach
09-12-2010, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
Just trying to ease Dez into the game. Don't give up yet.

lol ease himm into the game. if i was dez i would be mad if thats the way i was being eased into the game

coach
09-12-2010, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
too soon to call bryant a bust?

too soon to call philly a nonplayoff team?

Old Tiger
09-12-2010, 08:05 PM
Haynesworth is pissed!

coach
09-12-2010, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Old Tiger
Haynesworth is pissed!

lol just a little

Keith7
09-12-2010, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by coach
too soon to call philly a nonplayoff team?

LOL LOL the redskins are no green bay :doh:

cowgirls fans :doh:

coach
09-12-2010, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
LOL LOL the redskins are no green bay :doh:

cowgirls fans :doh:

never said they were just said that philly wont make the playoffs this year

orange machine
09-12-2010, 08:51 PM
you have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Blastoderm55
09-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Ahahahahaha Cowboys! Shades of Texas/Alabama last year!

gobbler grad
09-12-2010, 08:52 PM
Bad-Choice...:dispntd: :dispntd:




I would have rather seen Romo chunk a interception...:(

coach
09-12-2010, 08:52 PM
just fall down you are not going to break a tackle a run for 70 yards

STANG RED
09-12-2010, 08:52 PM
gotta put that stuped bs square on romo's shoulders. he should have just chunked it out of bounds, or just took a knee.:mad:

forum_guy
09-12-2010, 08:53 PM
yeah choice should have held on to it but that was a stupid play call. Why even run a play?

Daddy D 11
09-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by STANG RED
gotta put that stuped bs square on romo's shoulders. he should have just chunked it out of bounds.:mad:

hard to blame him for his 4th string running backs fumble

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 08:55 PM
Wow--what a thrilling first half. Very apparent the Cowboys cannot run their entire offense because of the weak "O" line. They better come up with some answers in the 2nd half. Quick outs and dinks hoping for a missed tackle are not going to get the job done without a working vertical game. Silly last play call.

pirate4state
09-12-2010, 08:57 PM
pathetic

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Wow--what a thrilling first half. Very apparent the Cowboys cannot run their entire offense because of the weak "O" line. They better come up with some answers in the 2nd half. Quick outs and dinks hoping for a missed tackle are not going to get the job done without a working vertical game. Silly last play call.


I like what Collinsworth said..Dallas is so worried about O-line, at some point they have to just run their plays and the O line has to block

coach
09-12-2010, 09:01 PM
im tired of seeing a drive come to a complete hault after stupid penalties

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I like what Collinsworth said..Dallas is so worried about O-line, at some point they have to just run their plays and the O line has to block

You got my vote, TXB---PLAY the game and quit thinking and worrying about it so dang much...

Phil C
09-12-2010, 09:08 PM
Dallas has blown it again as usual and it started when they fired Jimmy Johnson. They had time to get ready to make a run to host the super bowl in their own city but they have blown it.

STANG RED
09-12-2010, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
hard to blame him for his 4th string running backs fumble

If romo hadnt put it in that 4th string running backs hands in the first place, the fumble would have never happened.

Keith7
09-12-2010, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
Dallas has blown it again as usual and it started when they fired Jimmy Johnson. They had time to get ready to make a run to host the super bowl in their own city but they have blown it.

good point Phil :clap:

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
its sad that Washington using 2 time outs early in the 2nd half is a highlight for Cowboy fans:(

CHS_89
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
Cowboys are still in preseason mode. We couldn't score in preseason, and still can't. I think Dallas is in for a very long and frustrating season.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 09:16 PM
Somebody want to tell me now that Preseason doesn't matter??????

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 09:22 PM
well that worked out better than expected

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Phil C
Dallas has blown it again as usual and it started when they fired Jimmy Johnson. They had time to get ready to make a run to host the super bowl in their own city but they have blown it.

Phil, is that you??? :D :(

STANG RED
09-12-2010, 09:25 PM
Dang, do you guys throw in the towel this early when other things start out a little rough in your lives? Get a grip guys! Its game one of a very long season for crying out load.

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by STANG RED
Dang, do you guys throw in the towel this early when other things start out a little rough in your lives? Get a grip guys! Its game one of a very long season for crying out load.


lol yep..Cowboy fans think they should go 16-0

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
lol yep..Cowboy fans think they should go 16-0

no we just think they should go 1-0 on a weekly basis:D

jason
09-12-2010, 09:30 PM
they're not looking great - they should have gone for it on that last 4th and 2.....

skins4life
09-12-2010, 09:34 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Go 'Skins

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by STANG RED
Dang, do you guys throw in the towel this early when other things start out a little rough in your lives? Get a grip guys! Its game one of a very long season for crying out load.


Of offense! A touchdown has been gift wrapped for you! NOW GET IT DONE!!!!!

skins4life
09-12-2010, 09:37 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

sinton66
09-12-2010, 09:38 PM
Geez. Finally!

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 09:38 PM
Better.....

sinton66
09-12-2010, 09:38 PM
Thank you Miles Austin.

STANG RED
09-12-2010, 09:39 PM
There now. See, the sky isnt falling after all.;)

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 09:39 PM
Good execution all the way! Thank God Garrett didn't call a receiver screen.........:D

charlesrixey
09-12-2010, 09:46 PM
man i hate the redskins!

reminds of the fall i got to DC (07) and had the pleasure of listening to all of the post-game analysis when the Patriots beat the redskins 52-7. that was a fun week

charlesrixey
09-12-2010, 09:47 PM
that's our boy Romo---playing just well enough to win, but not good enough for us to enjoy the win

sinton66
09-12-2010, 09:48 PM
Woo-Hoo, thank God for defense.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 09:50 PM
I just saw the Troy Barkman commercial. Great commercial........:D

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
I just saw the Troy Barkman commercial. Great commercial........:D

I like the Eagle/Cowboy one as well

sinton66
09-12-2010, 09:52 PM
I like the diswater in the ice tea one.:D

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
I like the diswater in the ice tea one.:D


that is the Eagle/Cowboy one..greatness

skins4life
09-12-2010, 09:54 PM
Thank GOD for the ATM player

sinton66
09-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
that is the Eagle/Cowboy one..greatness

LOL, I thought it was but wasn't sure.;)

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 09:56 PM
I 100% support the Cowboys going with the quick hitting passes when the Skins blitz!!!!! BUT THROW IT FORWARD!!!! Sideways hardly ever works..........

skins4life
09-12-2010, 09:58 PM
Has Whitten been covered up all night??

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 09:59 PM
once again..penalties killing Dallas more than opponent

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 10:02 PM
Cowboys get rid of the 2nd most penalized player in the league and pick-up the 1st. I know thre are few good "O" linemen available, but surely there are some better younger players than #71.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:06 PM
Did Dez return punts in college?????
Seems pretty stupid to risk one of your stud recievers for minimal gain.

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Did Dez return punts in college?????
Seems pretty stupid to risk one of your stud recievers for minimal gain.

yes he did

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Did Dez return punts in college?????
Seems pretty stupid to risk one of your stud recievers for minimal gain.

Yes he did and was a beast

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:08 PM
The play calling has regressed from bad to little league

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Maybe next Dallas possession Garrett will faint and somebody else will have to call the plays.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Time for a turnover...

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:10 PM
That pass hit nearly James in the belly

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:11 PM
Defense is tired that might be ball game

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
Maybe next Dallas possession Garrett will faint and somebody else will have to call the plays.

LOL

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:12 PM
Wow..Ware hurt that neck again

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The play calling has regressed from bad to little league I'm not even a big Cowboy fan and it's frustrating.

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:13 PM
That was a pretty bad hit the way Ware took it on the shoulder/head area

orange machine
09-12-2010, 10:13 PM
Thats a concussion for ware.

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:14 PM
probably a stinger

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:16 PM
Didn't he have something like that happen last year?

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:16 PM
Awful lot of holding not being called......

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:17 PM
Cooley just did it again and it wasn't called.

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:17 PM
This game falls on Garrett IMO..he called great plays from 20 to 40 then would pucker up and come up with utter crap

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
Cooley just did it again and it wasn't called.

Yea, I even saw that one!

SHSBulldog00
09-12-2010, 10:19 PM
Go Skins Go!!!!!

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:20 PM
This is bad, bad loss for the Cowboys. The Redskins are NOT that good and right now I don't see much fire in the defense. Perhaps the defense is FINALLY tired of holding the opponents to the 2nd fewest points in the NFL and still losing!

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Perhaps the defense is FINALLY tired of holding the opponents to the 2nd fewest points in the NFL and still losing!


yea cause Dallas has lost so much the last 3 years :confused:

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:21 PM
Still a chance!

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:23 PM
cut it out you two! :mad:

lol j/k :D

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:29 PM
Williams with the ball landed out of bounds, why didn't the clock stop?

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:29 PM
So far very impressive.... Keep it going Dallas!

charlesrixey
09-12-2010, 10:30 PM
wow dallas

please can you please get to the sideline inside two minutes?

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:30 PM
need a little luck

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 10:30 PM
Nothing like throwing into triple coverage lol good thing nobody at all for Washington can catch a ball lol

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by BaseballUmp
Nothing like throwing into triple coverage lol good thing nobody at all for Washington can catch a ball lol +1 wth was that?

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:31 PM
Hey TX! Did Garrett just throw two bad passes in a row in crunch time???

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:31 PM
oh well

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Hey TX! Did Garrett just throw two bad passes in a row in crunch time??? Romo just threw that :cool:

:p

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:32 PM
10 sec......two plays maybe......just get it in one.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:33 PM
Austin scores if that ball doesn't force him to stop and turn around............... Dang it!

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 10:33 PM
sweet fog action

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:34 PM
was that a duck?

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:36 PM
Guess u will blame Romo for that to huh Farmer

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:37 PM
are you kidding me a hold.

orange machine
09-12-2010, 10:37 PM
time to get rid of Barron!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Blastoderm55
09-12-2010, 10:37 PM
Holding! Game over! And just when Roy finally made a catch!

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 10:37 PM
way to end the dang game Cowboys...
:doublefacepalm

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 10:38 PM
"Im not sure Barron is on the team by the time the plane lands" possibly the most accurate statement of the night

sandmaster
09-12-2010, 10:38 PM
Cut Alex Barrons now!!!!!!!

Dogman_1969
09-12-2010, 10:38 PM
71 for the Cowboys needs to be cut, fired or what ever pro's do to get the guys out of the locker room. He's terrible.....

navscanmaster
09-12-2010, 10:39 PM
We get rid of one fat stupid penalty magnet for a worse one. Fail.:mad: :doh: :mad: :doh: :mad:

charlesrixey
09-12-2010, 10:39 PM
ugh

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 10:39 PM
i dont think I have ever been so disappointed with a opening season loss

navscanmaster
09-12-2010, 10:40 PM
I say it again, get rid of the idiot now. He is cancer already.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Guess u will blame Romo for that to huh Farmer



Naw, not that one! But Romo was a BIG reason they had to have that ONE!!!!!! And the 3 attempts before that one were just horrible...........

Bullaholic
09-12-2010, 10:41 PM
Not-a-good---the Cowboys have got more probs than they let on. I thought they would play a solid game tonight, but not so much---they do not look like a Super Bowl candidate team at this point.

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by navscanmaster
We get rid of one fat stupid penalty magnet for a worse one. Fail.:mad: :doh: :mad: :doh: :mad:

Leave his fat butt in Washingtion! He's the best player on their team.

navscanmaster
09-12-2010, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Naw, not that one! But Romo was a BIG reason they had to have that ONE!!!!!! And the 3 attempts before that one were just horrible...........

Wow. Just go away.

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Naw, not that one! But Romo was a BIG reason they had to have that ONE!!!!!! And the 3 attempts before that one were just horrible...........

ok dude whatever

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by navscanmaster
I say it again, get rid of the idiot now. He is cancer already.



What bothers me the most is the Cowboy players aren't even upset with this performance. I saw at least 5 Cowboys laughing and cutting up with Redskin players after the game. They should be pissed right now!

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
What bothers me the most is the Cowboy players aren't even upset with this performance. I saw at least 5 Cowboys laughing and cutting up with Redskin players after the game. They should be pissed right now!


sadly that is every team now days

DDBooger
09-12-2010, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
What bothers me the most is the Cowboy players aren't even upset with this performance. I saw at least 5 Cowboys laughing and cutting up with Redskin players after the game. They should be pissed right now! Dude I've been wondering this since I was a kid. It happens after every game. It's pro ball.

TheDOCTORdre
09-12-2010, 10:46 PM
why does this have to happen on Sunday night...there is no dang way I can drink near enough beer and be over it by work Monday morning:D

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 10:46 PM
This must be what a Brownwood loss looks like....cuz the Cowboys definitely beat themselves tonight lol

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:46 PM
A comedy of errors that wasn't too damn funny.

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
What bothers me the most is the Cowboy players aren't even upset with this performance. I saw at least 5 Cowboys laughing and cutting up with Redskin players after the game. They should be pissed right now!


they re pro s the first game of the season doesn't mean jack to them and if they clinch a spot later in the season...the last one or two won't mean jack to them.

what gets me the most is scoring seven stinking points.

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
Leave his fat butt in Washingtion! He's the best player on their team.

Now, Now!! That's not right ;) They should leave Choice, I believe he is the one that cost the 'Boys the TD in the first half. ;)

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by skins4life
Now, Now!! That's not right ;) They should leave Choice, I believe he is the one that cost the 'Boys the TD in the first half. ;)

No sir, that was on Garrett. What a stupid call!

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
why does this have to happen on Sunday night...there is no dang way I can drink near enough beer and be over it by work Monday morning:D

I hear ya Dr. That's the way I felt last year! A LOT:)

SintonFan_inAustin
09-12-2010, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
What bothers me the most is the Cowboy players aren't even upset with this performance. I saw at least 5 Cowboys laughing and cutting up with Redskin players after the game. They should be pissed right now! its week 1, sun comes up tommorrow and look to week 2. Its the NFL not college and they'll be few more losses just like the rest of the teams in the NFL.

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 10:50 PM
i missed that play...was at dinner. From what i saw they should of chunk down field or taken a knee....what were they hoping to accomplish with the play they ran.

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
No sir, that was on Garrett. What a stupid call!

You are correct. The call was on Garrett but the fumble was on Choice.

Farmersfan
09-12-2010, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
why does this have to happen on Sunday night...there is no dang way I can drink near enough beer and be over it by work Monday morning:D



I don't even drink much but feel like I could use some 80 proof right now! I guess I'll go put out the wife and kiss the dog goodnight and try to get some sleep before 5:00am gets here! Good night all!

coach
09-12-2010, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by skins4life
You are correct. The call was on Garrett but the fumble was on Choice.

i just dont understand why he was fighting for extra yards...whats the damn point?

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by skins4life
You are correct. The call was on Garrett but the fumble was on Choice.

But it wouldn't have been possible if they just took a knee. DUMB ass call. Nothing positive could have happened on that play call. There was no way they were going to score on it, and that's the ONLY reason it should EVER be called in that situation.

raider red 2000
09-12-2010, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by NastySlot
i missed that play...was at dinner. From what i saw they should of chunk down field or taken a knee....what were they hoping to accomplish with the play they ran.
romo was trying to pad his fantasy stats

skins4life
09-12-2010, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by coach
i just dont understand why he was fighting for extra yards...whats the damn point?

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why didn't they just kneel the ball and go in down 3?

sinton66
09-12-2010, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by raider red 2000
romo was trying to pad his fantasy stats

By handing the ball off to Choice? Huh?

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by sinton66
By handing the ball off to Choice? Huh?
It was technically a dump pass

4x100jackets
09-12-2010, 11:04 PM
I LOVE ME SOME SKINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS ???????????????

NastySlot
09-12-2010, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by BaseballUmp
It was technically a dump pass

like i said i missed the play before half.....did it look like a called dump off or did Romo look deep not find anything and just dump it off?

BaseballUmp
09-12-2010, 11:05 PM
Naw, that was to 66 that it wasnt a handoff and romo got pressured and stepped up in the pocket and all he saw was choice about 5 yards to his right and just basically pitched it to him

slpybear the bullfan
09-12-2010, 11:06 PM
This game tonight reminds me again why I love college ball and get a little less in love with the NFL each passing year.

The Boys looked disinterested... And the coaches looked unprepared. Wade says the play before half was supposed to be called off after the penalty... But word did't get to the field. They have radios in the helmets! Sheesh...

The line is the reason this team goes 8-8. Jimmy wouldn't have even let Barron or Choice fly home with the team.

sinton66
09-12-2010, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by NastySlot
like i said i missed the play before half.....did it look like a called dump off or did Romo look deep not find anything and just dump it off?

Doesn't matter.either way it was stupid play call on Garrett's part. I did see one positive in this. I like what I saw from Dez Bryant in a two minute offense.

coach
09-12-2010, 11:12 PM
the play before half was not a dumb call...choice was a safety man...i dont like kneeling bc what happens if they grab his facemask or a PA? its a free play. the dump pass was not a called play it was just in case romo gets into trouble. now when you know you are getting hit in that situation fall down. thats all i ask. i thought the boys played a solid game. take away the penalties and they win easily. remember we missed a chip shot field goal which changes the game drastically and romo had a helluva game. he continues to grow before our eyes. now we gotta take it to the bears and be 2-1 before our bye.

Emerson1
09-12-2010, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by coach
the play before half was not a dumb call...choice was a safety man...i dont like kneeling bc what happens if they grab his facemask or a PA? its a free play. the dump pass was not a called play it was just in case romo gets into trouble. now when you know you are getting hit in that situation fall down. thats all i ask. i thought the boys played a solid game. take away the penalties and they win easily. remember we missed a chip shot field goal which changes the game drastically and romo had a helluva game. he continues to grow before our eyes. now we gotta take it to the bears and be 2-1 before our bye.

The comment I left on your status applies to people on this thread

sinton66
09-12-2010, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by coach
the play before half was not a dumb call...choice was a safety man...i dont like kneeling bc what happens if they grab his facemask or a PA? its a free play. the dump pass was not a called play it was just in case romo gets into trouble. now when you know you are getting hit in that situation fall down. thats all i ask. i thought the boys played a solid game. take away the penalties and they win easily. remember we missed a chip shot field goal which changes the game drastically and romo had a helluva game. he continues to grow before our eyes. now we gotta take it to the bears and be 2-1 before our bye.

I disagree. The announcers disagreed. Sometimes you have to play smart. Smart would have been to kneel it and go in down 3 points.

Keith7
09-12-2010, 11:44 PM
Lololololol still laughing at the cowgirls....

Txbroadcaster
09-12-2010, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
This game tonight reminds me again why I love college ball and get a little less in love with the NFL each passing year.

The Boys looked disinterested... And the coaches looked unprepared.

I love both college and NFL and I see what happen tonight in both.

skins4life
09-12-2010, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by NastySlot
like i said i missed the play before half.....did it look like a called dump off or did Romo look deep not find anything and just dump it off?

Romo was scrambling and dumped the ball to Choice who got hit by Hall, who stripped the ball then picked it up and ran it into the end-zone.

slpybear the bullfan
09-13-2010, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by coach
the play before half was not a dumb call...choice was a safety man...i dont like kneeling bc what happens if they grab his facemask or a PA? its a free play. the dump pass was not a called play it was just in case romo gets into trouble. now when you know you are getting hit in that situation fall down. thats all i ask. i thought the boys played a solid game. take away the penalties and they win easily. remember we missed a chip shot field goal which changes the game drastically and romo had a helluva game. he continues to grow before our eyes. now we gotta take it to the bears and be 2-1 before our bye.

Again, Wade said in the PG interview, the play was supposed to be cancelled and Tony was supposed to kneel. But no one got the word to Tony.

I fear a long season with this line.

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
Again, Wade said in the PG interview, the play was supposed to be cancelled and Tony was supposed to kneel. But no one got the word to Tony.

I fear a long season with this line.

I have to say as someone that spent a year coaching..those type of things do happen more than alot of people think..not making it excusable in anyway just saying communication mistakes happen more often thn not

coach
09-13-2010, 12:23 AM
did anybody else like the 3 runningback formation with the option play they ran in the secon dhalf?

skins4life
09-13-2010, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by coach
did anybody else like the 3 runningback formation with the option play they ran in the secon dhalf?
I don't know about all the 'Boys fans, but that formation scared the crap out of me. If they would have run that play again, I think it would have picked up big yardage. :eek: :eek:

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
This game tonight reminds me again why I love college ball and get a little less in love with the NFL each passing year.

The Boys looked disinterested... And the coaches looked unprepared. Wade says the play before half was supposed to be called off after the penalty... But word did't get to the field. They have radios in the helmets! Sheesh...

The line is the reason this team goes 8-8. Jimmy wouldn't have even let Barron or Choice fly home with the team.





Amazing! Simply amazing!

The line did fine considering 2 starters were out. The Redskins (winning team) played with a much worst line and McNabb was under a hell of a lot more pressure than Romo was! McNabb actually did what a good QB should do and made some plays even when under duress! The Cowboys rushed for 4.7 yards per attempt and passed for 277 yards which ranks them #4 in the NFL for week #1. The problem is exactly the same problem they had last year. THEY CAN"T SCORE!!!! 7 points on offense has them ranked #27 in the NFL. They commit penalties at the worst possible times! They call very bad plays at the worst possible times! And they FAIL to execute at the worst possible times!
Washington's defense is ranked #25 and their offense is ranked #24 after week #1 after a game that they WON! McNabb had a QB rating of 63 and only managed to get his team into FG distance twice and scored 6 points and WON! Washingtons RBs rushed for just 89 yards in a game they WON! At some point the team must get it done consistently! Not sporadic glimpses of brilliance! Just good ole' consistent execution down the field and into the endzone! And this is were I think the Cowboys are missing something now and have for a few years. Everyone knows where I think the missing intensity comes from but ya'll have to make up your own minds.

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 08:52 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Farmersfan
Amazing! Simply amazing!

. Everyone knows where I think the missing intensity comes from but ya'll have to make up your own minds. [/QUOTE

yea I agree...I was just thinking man you have got to Blame Romo for the holding penalties, the blocking in the back penalties that killed drives....Oh yea got to blame Romo for the lack of running game as well....and wait..dont forget to blame Romo for the not so great special teams play...also we have GOT to blame Romo for letting Columbo and Kosier get hurt in pre season

LE Dad
09-13-2010, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by coach
did anybody else like the 3 runningback formation with the option play they ran in the secon dhalf? That formation is deadly... I get to see it every Friday and you can do so much with motion and hiding an extra WR, option look or just plain line up and run a power play at them.

LE Dad
09-13-2010, 08:58 AM
All I can say is I am thankful that guy held...If not Dallas would still be in DC today trying to dig Romo out of the ground. That was a complete lack of footwork, how he got into the NFL as an O lineman is beyond me.

crzyjournalist03
09-13-2010, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by LE Dad
All I can say is I am thankful that guy held...If not Dallas would still be in DC today trying to dig Romo out of the ground. That was a complete lack of footwork, how he got into the NFL as an O lineman is beyond me.

I'm not so sure...Romo was looking that way and ducked after he was freed from the hold. Maybe Romo does get sacked, or maybe he makes the elusive move earlier...we'll never know.

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Farmersfan
Amazing! Simply amazing!

. Everyone knows where I think the missing intensity comes from but ya'll have to make up your own minds. [/QUOTE

yea I agree...I was just thinking man you have got to Blame Romo for the holding penalties, the blocking in the back penalties that killed drives....Oh yea got to blame Romo for the lack of running game as well....and wait..dont forget to blame Romo for the not so great special teams play...also we have GOT to blame Romo for letting Columbo and Kosier get hurt in pre season




And you just can't stand it can you? I never once blamed Romo for any of those specific things and you know it! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this team's attitude? Yes I do! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this teams lack of intensity? YES I DO!!! And so does anyone else with even a small inkling of football understanding. A lack of team intensity and attitude is why these kinds of failures happen. Your team leaders are the ones that create a winning attitude and a desire to be successful!
Here is the difference in our perspectives:
You watch the final drive of last nights game and see a holding by a 0-lneman that cost the Cowboys the game. I watch that final drive and I see Romo throw a pass to a WIDE OPEN Austin that if it is a good pass Austin runs into the endzone untouched. (Romo mistake #1) GOOD PLAY OR BAD PLAY? I also see Romo miss a open Ogeltree in the endzone by overthrowing him by 5 yards right after Romo panics and throws the ball out the back of the endzone before he ever gets close to any pressure from the defense! (Romo mistake #2 & #3).
From my count that would be Romo 3 mistakes and the O-lineman 1 mistake on that final drive!!!!! I do understand nobody is perfect but EVERYBODY pretty much doomed the O-lineman to being cut today for making a mistake during the ONLY good play from Romo in like the last 5 attempts. Just ONE good play from Romo on one of the other 5 attempts and we are talking about a Cowboys win today! Not all Romo's fault but certainly Romo's responsibility!

LE Dad
09-13-2010, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
I'm not so sure...Romo was looking that way and ducked after he was freed from the hold. Maybe Romo does get sacked, or maybe he makes the elusive move earlier...we'll never know. True, bottom line is either way the O line had better get healthy in a hurry. #71 has no business being on the field in the NFL.

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I have to say as someone that spent a year coaching..those type of things do happen more than alot of people think..not making it excusable in anyway just saying communication mistakes happen more often thn not




You spent a year coaching in the NFL???? I would think by the time a player reaches the PROS they should understand how to play the game!
And that play wasn't a "CALLED" play. Choice is Romo's saftey valve on that play every time they run it! Romo has to decide if it's wise to actually use him or not. 4 seconds left in the game would have been a great time to throw the ball 60 yards down the field if someone was open but maybe not so good a time to flip the ball to the safety valve. But then again I think it's better for Choice to get tackled than for Romo to keep it himself.... Choice just has to hang onto the ball and go to the ground.

Bullaholic
09-13-2010, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
And you just can't stand it can you? I never once blamed Romo for any of those specific things and you know it! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this team's attitude? Yes I do! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this teams lack of intensity? YES I DO!!! And so does anyone else with even a small inkling of football understanding. A lack of team intensity and attitude is why these kinds of failures happen. Your team leaders are the ones that create a winning attitude and a desire to be successful!
Here is the difference in our perspectives:
You watch the final drive of last nights game and see a holding by a 0-lneman that cost the Cowboys the game. I watch that final drive and I see Romo throw a pass to a WIDE OPEN Austin that if it is a good pass Austin runs into the endzone untouched. (Romo mistake #1) GOOD PLAY OR BAD PLAY? I also see Romo miss a open Ogeltree in the endzone by overthrowing him by 5 yards right after Romo panics and throws the ball out the back of the endzone before he ever gets close to any pressure from the defense! (Romo mistake #2 & #3).
From my count that would be Romo 3 mistakes and the O-lineman 1 mistake on that final drive!!!!! I do understand nobody is perfect but EVERYBODY pretty much doomed the O-lineman to being cut today for making a mistake during the ONLY good play from Romo in like the last 5 attempts. Just ONE good play from Romo on one of the other 5 attempts and we are talking about a Cowboys win today! Not all Romo's fault but certainly Romo's responsibility!

Somebody is open on every play in pro football, Farmer. Finding him a high % of the time in 3 secs while running for your life, and hardly ever being able to get your feet set, requires considerable effort. Romo makes his share of the mistakes---just not as many as you want everyone to believe.

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
And you just can't stand it can you? I never once blamed Romo for any of those specific things and you know it! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this team's attitude? Yes I do! Do I think Romo has a huge blame for this teams lack of intensity? YES I DO!!! And so does anyone else with even a small inkling of football understanding. A lack of team intensity and attitude is why these kinds of failures happen. Your team leaders are the ones that create a winning attitude and a desire to be successful!
Here is the difference in our perspectives:
You watch the final drive of last nights game and see a holding by a 0-lneman that cost the Cowboys the game. I watch that final drive and I see Romo throw a pass to a WIDE OPEN Austin that if it is a good pass Austin runs into the endzone untouched. (Romo mistake #1) GOOD PLAY OR BAD PLAY? I also see Romo miss a open Ogeltree in the endzone by overthrowing him by 5 yards right after Romo panics and throws the ball out the back of the endzone before he ever gets close to any pressure from the defense! (Romo mistake #2 & #3).
From my count that would be Romo 3 mistakes and the O-lineman 1 mistake on that final drive!!!!! I do understand nobody is perfect but EVERYBODY pretty much doomed the O-lineman to being cut today for making a mistake during the ONLY good play from Romo in like the last 5 attempts. Just ONE good play from Romo on one of the other 5 attempts and we are talking about a Cowboys win today! Not all Romo's fault but certainly Romo's responsibility!


ur little subtle digs at anyone that disagrees with you is sad. You pretend like you want to debate but when someone disagrees you like to basically call them stupid.

But lets go ahead and play your game

First "mistake" to Austin..lets see it is 4th down and he sees that Austin is wide open on a blown coverage..he does what he has to and gets the ball to him. Would Austin have scored with a better throw..I dont know..but on a 4th down they converted.

On mistake 2 and 3 as you call it..I dont remember a wide open Ogletree lol..but you think he was so ok

the fact is Romo DID throw the game winning TD after driving the team for the win..PERIOD..you CANNOT argue that, if you do then your showing you honestly have such an obsessionto want to blame Romo for everything that ur never able to see the other side of the debate.

the simple fact your trying as hard as you can to find Romo mistakes shows you just for whatever reason have decided he is not good enough. I like what Collinsworth said last night...Romo proved he is a top 5 QB with that drive, it is not his fault that Barron killed the play of the week with a hold...but again you will not and have not given any kind of credit to Romo

And I know u will try to turn this around and say I stick up for Romo..which I dont..if he has a bad game I say he has a bad game...you can NEVER say he has a good game.

So I ask once agian..either debate me without subtle immature name calling or dont debate.

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
You spent a year coaching in the NFL???? I would think by the time a player reaches the PROS they should understand how to play the game!
And that play wasn't a "CALLED" play. Choice is Romo's saftey valve on that play every time they run it! Romo has to decide if it's wise to actually use him or not. 4 seconds left in the game would have been a great time to throw the ball 60 yards down the field if someone was open but maybe not so good a time to flip the ball to the safety valve. But then again I think it's better for Choice to get tackled than for Romo to keep it himself.... Choice just has to hang onto the ball and go to the ground.

where did I say I coached in the NFL..All I was doing was telling ANOTHER poster that communication problems happen on the sidelines more than people realize.

slpybear the bullfan
09-13-2010, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Amazing! Simply amazing!

The line did fine considering 2 starters were out.

Sorry, but I disagree.

The line played well in spurts. The Cowboys seemed to run the ball well, but Garrett was determined to throw the ball. Romo was pretty much running for his life almost every passing down. I think he does that well, but you cannot be effective in the air game when you throw in less than 3 seconds every play.

The line is old. The odds are high that they will not be healthy. And last night you see what you get with a patchwork line.

I stand by my 8-8 prediction.

pancho villa
09-13-2010, 10:21 AM
My favorite team won. Whoever is playing Dallas!

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Somebody is open on every play in pro football, Farmer. Finding him a high % of the time in 3 secs while running for your life, and hardly ever being able to get your feet set, requires considerable effort. Romo makes his share of the mistakes---just not as many as you want everyone to believe.



Even the BEST QB in the NFL is only successful about 60% of the time when throwing the ball. But don't be fooled into thinking the 40% failures aren't mistakes! They are either misreads, misthrows or dropped passes! The success of a good QB comes when those mistakes don't happen at the wrong times. Almost all great or even good QB's get better in the Red Zone. Care to tell everyone what happens to Romo's QB rating in the Red Zone?

GrTigers6
09-13-2010, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Even the BEST QB in the NFL is only successful about 60% of the time when throwing the ball. But don't be fooled into thinking the 40% failures aren't mistakes! They are either misreads, misthrows or dropped passes! The success of a good QB comes when those mistakes don't happen at the wrong times. Almost all great or even good QB's get better in the Red Zone. Care to tell everyone what happens to Romo's QB rating in the Red Zone? Yeah, he scored a td two out of three times in the redzone. He can't help it if someone holds

Bullaholic
09-13-2010, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Even the BEST QB in the NFL is only successful about 60% of the time when throwing the ball. But don't be fooled into thinking the 40% failures aren't mistakes! They are either misreads, misthrows or dropped passes! The success of a good QB comes when those mistakes don't happen at the wrong times. Almost all great or even good QB's get better in the Red Zone. Care to tell everyone what happens to Romo's QB rating in the Red Zone?

1. Farmer, any incomplete pass is considered to be somebody's mistake. No fooling me there.

2. Know of any player who can pick or control when, or if, he will be successful in a situation ?

3. Thank you for the football 101 primer. Football is a team game and indivdual player successes or failures are controlled by multiple factors, including luck, but they depend directly on the inter-actions of 21 other guys on every play.

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
ur little subtle digs at anyone that disagrees with you is sad. You pretend like you want to debate but when someone disagrees you like to basically call them stupid.

But lets go ahead and play your game

First "mistake" to Austin..lets see it is 4th down and he sees that Austin is wide open on a blown coverage..he does what he has to and gets the ball to him. Would Austin have scored with a better throw..I dont know..but on a 4th down they converted.

On mistake 2 and 3 as you call it..I dont remember a wide open Ogletree lol..but you think he was so ok

the fact is Romo DID throw the game winning TD after driving the team for the win..PERIOD..you CANNOT argue that, if you do then your showing you honestly have such an obsessionto want to blame Romo for everything that ur never able to see the other side of the debate.

the simple fact your trying as hard as you can to find Romo mistakes shows you just for whatever reason have decided he is not good enough. I like what Collinsworth said last night...Romo proved he is a top 5 QB with that drive, it is not his fault that Barron killed the play of the week with a hold...but again you will not and have not given any kind of credit to Romo

And I know u will try to turn this around and say I stick up for Romo..which I dont..if he has a bad game I say he has a bad game...you can NEVER say he has a good game.

So I ask once agian..either debate me without subtle immature name calling or dont debate.




My little subtle digs at you are just the result of your constant statements that my opinions are based on hatred for Romo. If you want to debate we can debate but it's all been discussed a thousand times before. Besides, how can one prove intangibles and attitude? You hold all the cards because in the overall scheme of things the Cowboys are a successful team in the NFL these days. I assert they are not near as successful as they should be but how can that be proven? Romo has proven over the last several years that he can win in the NFL and his record shows it! So how can I prove that he is actually underachieveing with one of the most talented teams in the NFL? A 11-5 record and a complete beatdown from the Vikings in the second round for this team is a complete and utter failure in my books but you look at it as a success! I expect more based on what I know to be a team more capable. You accept the limited success! And I repeat for the millionth time: Romo earned my opinion of him just like he earned his rep around the league and around the country. People don't just start hating for the sake of hating! Romo is probably the most contraversial Cowboys since Hollywood Henderson! And NOBODY can claim there isn't a problem with this team. Eventually JJ will put enough talent around Romo that he might actually win the big one! My point is that the talent has been there for a couple of years and Romo hasn't gotten it done. So if you stop jabbing me, I'll stop jabbing you!!!
Deal?
:D :D :D

JasperDog94
09-13-2010, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by slpybear the bullfan
The Cowboys seemed to run the ball well, but Garrett was determined to throw the ball. Garrett needs to watch the game film of the Texans. They have the best receiver in the game right now and they chose to run the ball most of the game. Why did they do that? Because IT WAS WORKING!!! If something works, keep doing it until they stop you. Our running game looked really solid, but once again we seem to get pass happy way too often.

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 11:29 AM
I want to apoligize to everyone if it seems I am picking on Romo all the time! I know he can't win games by himself and it takes a complete team effort! My only reason for mentioning his performance last night in the final 30 seconds was because so many people were blaming the loss on Alex Barron! Of course it would have been great if he had not held and bringing back a touchdown because of a hold is terrible and likely will cost him his career in Dallas. But the fact still remains that there were about 60 other plays in the game that also didn't score and some were just as unforgiveable as the hold! Regardless of who's fault you think it is for Romo throwing 3 straight incomplete passes from the Red Zone in the last 4 attempts the fact still remains he threw 3 straight incomplete passes in the last 4 attempts in the Red Zone. Barron holding on his only good pass doesn't change the fact that he failed on the other 3! The QB is the ONLY player on the field that touches the ball on every single snap. He is also the ONLY player on the field that has 30+ opportunities to score points in a game. So I put way more responsibility on him! Sorry but that's just my logic!

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by JasperDog94
Garrett needs to watch the game film of the Texans. They have the best receiver in the game right now and they chose to run the ball most of the game. Why did they do that? Because IT WAS WORKING!!! If something works, keep doing it until they stop you. Our running game looked really solid, but once again we seem to get pass happy way too often.



It also seemed like Garrett was bound and determined to get Dez into the game! They should let his involvement come natural instead of trying to force it...

Bullaholic
09-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Farmer! You apologize for always blaming Romo for Cowboy losses and then proceed to harang him again and again in the very next sentence---that is what we don't understand. Far be it from me to ever tell another poster how and what to post, but how about some Cowboy discussion that is not Romo-centric? You love the game, and I think you are a loyal Cowboy fan---use some of that insight and knowledge for a balanced discussion perspective, which certainly can include some negative Romo comments, and I will be among the first to carry on a Cowboy discourse with you.

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
Farmer! You apologize for always blaming Romo for Cowboy losses and then proceed to harang him again and again in the very next sentence---that is what we don't understand. Far be it from me to ever tell another poster how and what to post, but how about some Cowboy discussion that is not Romo-centric? You love the game, and I think you are a loyal Cowboy fan---use some of that insight and knowledge for a balanced discussion perspective, which certainly can include some negative Romo comments, and I will be among the first to carry on a Cowboy discourse with you.




Fair enough Bull!

AP Panther Fan
09-13-2010, 12:44 PM
Well, I am a big Cowboy fan and I am really getting tired of their unpredictability. They are a team loaded with individual talent so WTH?! I think I need to start consulting a Magic 8 ball before I watch a game.

Grrrr....plus I am tired since watching it made me not able to sleep last night.:dispntd:

Bullaholic
09-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by AP Panther Fan
Well, I am a big Cowboy fan and I am really getting tired of their unpredictability. They are a team loaded with individual talent so WTH?! I think I need to start consulting a Magic 8 ball before I watch a game.

Grrrr....plus I am tired since watching it made me not able to sleep last night.:dispntd:

Sorry AP---you can't use the Magic 8 ball--Garrett is using it to call the Cowboy's plays...:D

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Regardless of who's fault you think it is for Romo throwing 3 straight incomplete passes from the Red Zone in the last 4 attempts the fact still remains he threw 3 straight incomplete passes in the last 4 attempts in the Red Zone. Barron holding on his only good pass doesn't change the fact that he failed on the other 3!


It is comments like these I honestly cannot understand...Football is not a 100% success/fail rate. Are you telling me that if Barron does not hold and Romo makes the play to win the game your going to say well yea he made the play..BUT he failed the 3 other times before!!!.

That is why I ask about a hatred of Romo from you..you seem to hold him up to a perfection level that he must be 100% or he fails. You have not once in the time you and I have started this debate said Romo had a good game, or Romo played well. You expect the success then are quick to point out the mistakes, even if those mistakes are Romo's or not.

TheDOCTORdre
09-13-2010, 03:01 PM
the problem with Dallas yesterday is similar to the problem UT had in the 1st half of the NC game against Bama-over thinking in coaching strategy...eventually you just have to play the game for what it is. Just like Mack Brown and UT staff tried to call it "safe" for Gilbert when Colt went out, Jason Garrett and crew tried to play it "safe" with the line injuries and it didnt work out

Farmersfan
09-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
It is comments like these I honestly cannot understand...Football is not a 100% success/fail rate. Are you telling me that if Barron does not hold and Romo makes the play to win the game your going to say well yea he made the play..BUT he failed the 3 other times before!!!.

That is why I ask about a hatred of Romo from you..you seem to hold him up to a perfection level that he must be 100% or he fails. You have not once in the time you and I have started this debate said Romo had a good game, or Romo played well. You expect the success then are quick to point out the mistakes, even if those mistakes are Romo's or not.




And it is comments like these that I honestly cannot understand TX! I have said hundreds of times that Romo sometimes plays well. In fact I can guarantee that I have given Romo more credit than you have given him blame! But I also have said that Romo (and any QB) has by far the most opportunity to score on a football team. Nobody is perfect and nobody expects a QB to be perfect! But apparently EVERYBODY expects receivers, 0-linemen, RBs, and all other players on the team to be perfect. Choice gets perhaps 10 chances for success last night and he makes one mistake and 9 other positive yardage plays and he's a scape goat today. The lineman Barron played 60 plays and he performed his job successfully (to some extend) perhaps 50 of those times and yet he's a scape goat today! That's 90% success for Choice and 84% success for Barron. Romo (and any QB) has success about 60% of the time and they get a pass on a bad game like last night. Barron did hold the defender and screwed up a great play, great pass and great effort from everyone but it didn't cost them the game. Like I said before, if Romo simply completes ONE MORE pass in the endzone the previous 4 tries Barron doesn't get a chance to hold!
And my "Habit" of always knocking Romo is something I will work on! But in all fairness, Romosexuals have heard all these arguements about Romo for years and are just as quick to respond to any criticism of him! The bottom line is that in my opinion every single position on this team has been addressed over the last several years except 1. Yet things are still frusterating and underachieving with this team.

crzyjournalist03
09-13-2010, 03:55 PM
Some mistakes are far worse than others.

Emerson1
09-13-2010, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
And it is comments like these that I honestly cannot understand TX! I have said hundreds of times that Romo sometimes plays well. In fact I can guarantee that I have given Romo more credit than you have given him blame! But I also have said that Romo (and any QB) has by far the most opportunity to score on a football team. Nobody is perfect and nobody expects a QB to be perfect! But apparently EVERYBODY expects receivers, 0-linemen, RBs, and all other players on the team to be perfect. Choice gets perhaps 10 chances for success last night and he makes one mistake and 9 other positive yardage plays and he's a scape goat today. The lineman Barron played 60 plays and he performed his job successfully (to some extend) perhaps 50 of those times and yet he's a scape goat today! That's 90% success for Choice and 84% success for Barron. Romo (and any QB) has success about 60% of the time and they get a pass on a bad game like last night. Barron did hold the defender and screwed up a great play, great pass and great effort from everyone but it didn't cost them the game. Like I said before, if Romo simply completes ONE MORE pass in the endzone the previous 4 tries Barron doesn't get a chance to hold!
And my "Habit" of always knocking Romo is something I will work on! But in all fairness, Romosexuals have heard all these arguements about Romo for years and are just as quick to respond to any criticism of him! The bottom line is that in my opinion every single position on this team has been addressed over the last several years except 1. Yet things are still frusterating and underachieving with this team.
Romo can't complete passes when the receivers are heavily covered. He knew he couldn't take a sack and instead of forcing it threw it out of the back of the endzone. They had a time out, they should have had at least one short route to try and get the ball closer so not all the attempts were into the endzone. It's near impossible to complete a pass in a 10 yard zone from that far out unless the WR is WIDE OPEN like Roy Williams was.

Txbroadcaster
09-13-2010, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Like I said before, if Romo simply completes ONE MORE pass in the endzone the previous 4 tries Barron doesn't get a chance to hold!



Well if we want to play the what if game like that.if Barron does not hold on a earlier drive on a play where Romo completes a 15 yd pass..or Bennett does not block in the back on a 15 yd pass play as Dallas is getting into a groove and at the Redskin 40 then none of it happens.

You act like on those 4 passes WR were wide open and Romo missed them badly.

On that drive Romo did what a top 5 QB is supposed..he moved his team down the field and made the play to win the game simple as that. YOU still are trying to discredit. Your trying to still say well Romo is at fault cause he did not throw a td on one of the plays Barron did not hold lol.

You talk about the well it was one play Barron and Choice did that cost us

So would you say the same thing if Romo was 8 of 9 on final drive but the last pass is intercepted? Would you be then saying well yea it was bad but hey the 4 passes before were completed

And I dont care if you bash Romo, just bring stats or actual reasons, and I am sorry but saying Romo is at fault for not completeing one of the passes before Barron held IMO is not a valid reason

JJWalker
09-13-2010, 05:32 PM
Romo is good ... just not as great as he thinks he is.

IMO ... Dallas lost that game because of Romo. Plain and simple.

Daddy D 11
09-13-2010, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by JJWalker
Romo is good ... just not as great as he thinks he is.

IMO ... Dallas lost that game because of Romo. Plain and simple.

Why do you say that?

JJWalker
09-13-2010, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Why do you say that?
Romo lost to a QB that has been traded to an in division team ... because he is washed up.

Romo lost to a team who couldn't field a team that could put defensive lineman in a down stance.

Romo lost when his defense didn't give up a TD.

And a myriad of even better reasons ... especially ... the one where Romo acts like a bonehead with the football at times.

navscanmaster
09-13-2010, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by JJWalker
Romo lost to a QB that has been traded to an in division team ... because he is washed up.

Romo lost to a team who couldn't field a team that could put defensive lineman in a down stance.

Romo lost when his defense didn't give up a TD.

And a myriad of even better reasons ... especially ... the one where Romo acts like a bonehead with the football at times.

Romo was responsible for only one of many Dallas penalties that utterly ****** them out of this game: Delay of Game. Do you ask Drew Brees or Peyton Manning to complete all their passes, make every tackle, pre-emptively prevent every penalty, catch every pass they throw, and call the plays in from the sideline? Nope. They can't do it, so why would you expect Romo to do all of this? Romo haters absolutely crack me up. The guy works his *** off and still has fun out there, and led his team to what should have been the game winning touchdown with no time left on the clock. That is what you expect of any top quarterback. Who gives a crap if he dates gorgeous women? Yep, Romo haters.:doh:

crzyjournalist03
09-13-2010, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by JJWalker
Romo lost to a QB that has been traded to an in division team ... because he is washed up.

Romo lost to a team who couldn't field a team that could put defensive lineman in a down stance.

Romo lost when his defense didn't give up a TD.

And a myriad of even better reasons ... especially ... the one where Romo acts like a bonehead with the football at times.

If those are your reasons for blaming Romo, there are 52 other names on the roster who those reasons apply to equally.

Daddy D 11
09-13-2010, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
If those are your reasons for blaming Romo, there are 52 other names on the roster who those reasons apply to equally.

lol my thoughts exactly.

those were quite possibly the worst reasons he could have come up with

Daddy D 11
09-13-2010, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by JJWalker
Romo lost to a QB that has been traded to an in division team ... because he is washed up.

Romo lost to a team who couldn't field a team that could put defensive lineman in a down stance.

Romo lost when his defense didn't give up a TD.

And a myriad of even better reasons ... especially ... the one where Romo acts like a bonehead with the football at times.


this doesn't even make sense

skins4life
09-13-2010, 11:14 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!:D :D :D At all of the COWBOY fans. Admit it ya'll aren't just mad cause they lost. You're mad cause it was to the REDSKINS. LOL I don't blame any of you. That's the way it's supposed to be if you're a true fan. I'd be the same way if my REDSKINS had lost.

piratebg
09-14-2010, 12:29 AM
Dallas lost. I'm over it. Got to get ready for the Bears now because it's my first Cowboys game and I refuse to sit through a loss.

crzyjournalist03
09-14-2010, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by skins4life
ROTFLMAO!!!!:D :D :D At all of the COWBOY fans. Admit it ya'll aren't just mad cause they lost. You're mad cause it was to the REDSKINS. LOL I don't blame any of you. That's the way it's supposed to be if you're a true fan. I'd be the same way if my REDSKINS had lost.

I'm not even mad honestly. I almost expected it. I thought that it would go something like that but that Dallas would pull out the victory at the end. Still doesn't change my outlook and expectations for an 11-5 season one bit.

LE Dad
09-14-2010, 10:12 AM
Woohoo!!!! heard 2 O linemen will be back at practice today!!:clap: :clap:

Farmersfan
09-15-2010, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
I'm not even mad honestly. I almost expected it. I thought that it would go something like that but that Dallas would pull out the victory at the end. Still doesn't change my outlook and expectations for an 11-5 season one bit.




It's truly sad that the Cowboys have established a culture where their fans expect the most talented team in the league to play games like this! Do you think Jerry's interference in the team has created a atmosphere of indifference in the players? Could the lack of intensity be a result of Jerry's own ego? I personally think Philips has a bigger impact on this team than Jerry does but others certainly disagree. What do you think?

Txbroadcaster
09-15-2010, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
It's truly sad that the Cowboys have established a culture where their fans expect the most talented team in the league to play games like this! Do you think Jerry's interference in the team has created a atmosphere of indifference in the players? Could the lack of intensity be a result of Jerry's own ego? I personally think Philips has a bigger impact on this team than Jerry does but others certainly disagree. What do you think?


YOU believe they are the most talented team..not everyone does. For every preseason prediction that has Dallas in the SB, another has them not making the play offs. ..Why? because as talented as Dallas is..they have glaring holes that can derail the season..we saw that in one game alone.

Take a look around the league...Strange week 1. Alot of teams lost on the road that were not supposed to.

Lets see how they play this week and next week( one should be a win, the other on the road gonna be tough)

We will then see if this is a hiccup game or a trend. I honestly think it could go either way

crzyjournalist03
09-15-2010, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
It's truly sad that the Cowboys have established a culture where their fans expect the most talented team in the league to play games like this! Do you think Jerry's interference in the team has created a atmosphere of indifference in the players? Could the lack of intensity be a result of Jerry's own ego? I personally think Philips has a bigger impact on this team than Jerry does but others certainly disagree. What do you think?

I don't expect any team to go 16-0. Almost every team in the entire league puts up one or two stinkers every year. How'd the Colts do in December last year against the Jets? They took the entire second half off, and almost ended up missing the Super Bowl when that same team came calling again in the AFC Championship.

I had Dallas at 11-5 before the season, and I still have them there. And I predicted them to win the Super Bowl.

One week does not define a season. For as bad as Dallas may have looked on Sunday night, at least three other legitimate Super Bowl contenders looked even worse...see the Colts, Jets, and Chargers.

Txbroadcaster
09-15-2010, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
I don't expect any team to go 16-0. Almost every team in the entire league puts up one or two stinkers every year. How'd the Colts do in December last year against the Jets? They took the entire second half off, and almost ended up missing the Super Bowl when that same team came calling again in the AFC Championship.

I had Dallas at 11-5 before the season, and I still have them there. And I predicted them to win the Super Bowl.

One week does not define a season. For as bad as Dallas may have looked on Sunday night, at least three other legitimate Super Bowl contenders looked even worse...see the Colts, Jets, and Chargers.


add Minny, SF, Cincy, the Jets, Atlanta and Arizona( yes I know they won but they struggled)

coach
09-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
too soon to call bryant a bust?

might want to reconsider this one