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wimbo_pro
09-08-2010, 11:01 AM
I used to be able to look up the Massey Power Ratings each week, but I am having trouble finding the 3A only section. Any help?

50 yard line fan
09-08-2010, 01:11 PM
I too have been looking for the 3A breakdown. I don't think it's an option this year. Best I could do was top 100 in the state. Just quickly scanning thru it, Carthage at #50 was the highest 3A. Found Brownwood at #54 and Celina at #59

Other 3A's: Gilmer #85 and Abilene Wylie #89.

Other notables: 2A Daingerfield at #21 and 4A Stephenville at #38.

Wimberley was at #229 in the state.



1 Trinity HS Euless, TX
2 Abilene HS Abilene, TX
3 Katy HS Katy, TX
4 Allen HS Allen, TX
5 Coppell HS Coppell, TX
6 Lufkin HS Lufkin, TX
7 Stony Point HS Round Rock, TX
8 Lake Travis HS Austin, TX
9 Marcus HS Flower Mound, TX
10 John Tyler HS Tyler, TX
11 John H Guyer HS Denton, TX
12 Aledo HS Aledo, TX
13 Desoto HS Desoto, TX
14 Longview HS Longview, TX
15 Cedar Hill HS Cedar Hill, TX
16 Cinco Ranch Katy, TX
17 Klein HS Spring, TX
18 Billy Ryan HS Denton, TX
19 Arlington Bowie HS Arlington, TX
20 Woodlands HS, The The Woodlands, TX
21 Daingerfield HS Daingerfield, TX
22 Copperas Cove HS Copperas Cove, TX
23 Cedar Park HS Cedar Park, TX
24 Cooper HS Abilene Abilene, TX
25 Klein Oak HS Spring, TX
26 Hebron HS Carrollton, TX
27 Ronald Reagan HS San Antonio, TX
28 Flower Mound HS Flower Mound, TX
29 Klein Collins HS Spring, TX
30 New Braunfels HS New Braunfels, TX
31 Westfield HS Houston, TX
32 Smithson Valley HS Spring Branch, TX
33 Westlake HS Austin, TX
34 Skyline HS Dallas, TX
35 Highland Park HS (Dallas) Dallas, TX
36 Dr John D Horn HS Mesquite, TX
37 Midway HS (Waco) Waco, TX
38 Stephenville HS Stephenville, TX
39 South Garland HS Garland, TX
40 Red Oak HS Red Oak, TX
41 North Shore HS Houston, TX
42 Robert E Lee HS-Tyler Tyler, TX
43 Carroll HS Southlake Southlake, TX
44 Douglas Macarthur HS San Antonio, TX
45 Arlington HS Arlington, TX
46 Friendswood HS Friendswood, TX
47 Plano East Senior HS Plano, TX
48 Theodore Roosevelt HS San Antonio, TX
49 Plano West Senior HS Plano, TX
50 Carthage HS Carthage, TX
51 West Brook Sr HS Beaumont, TX
52 Klein Forest HS Houston, TX
53 Plano Senior HS Plano, TX
54 Brownwood HS Brownwood, TX
55 Pflugerville HS Pflugerville, TX
56 Brenham HS Brenham, TX
57 Winston Churchill HS San Antonio, TX
58 James Madison HS San Antonio, TX
59 Celina HS Celina, TX
60 Waxahachie HS Waxahachie, TX
61 Whitehouse HS Whitehouse, TX
62 L V Hightower HS Missouri City, TX
63 Richland Senior HS North Richland Hills, TX
64 Garland HS Garland, TX
65 Caldwell HS Caldwell, TX
66 A & M Consolidated HS College Station, TX
67 Clear Springs HS League City, TX
68 Harlingen HS Harlingen, TX
69 Andy Dekaney HS Houston, TX
70 Kirbyville HS Kirbyville, TX
71 Bowie HS Austin, TX
72 Argyle HS Argyle, TX
73 Sherman HS Sherman, TX
74 Sealy HS Sealy, TX
75 Montgomery HS Montgomery, TX
76 La Porte HS La Porte, TX
77 Wylie HS (Wylie) Wylie, TX
78 Pearland HS Pearland, TX
79 Pittsburg HS Pittsburg, TX
80 Tivy HS Kerrville, TX
81 Robert E Lee HS-Midland Midland, TX
82 Midland Senior HS Midland, TX
83 Alamo Heights HS San Antonio, TX
84 El Campo HS El Campo, TX
85 Gilmer HS Gilmer, TX
86 Marshall HS Marshall, TX
87 Belton HS Belton, TX
88 West Mesquite HS Mesquite, TX
89 Wylie HS (Abilene) Abilene, TX
90 Rowlett HS Rowlett, TX
91 Byron P Steele II HS Cibolo, TX
92 Sulphur Springs HS Sulphur Springs, TX
93 Angleton HS Angleton, TX
94 Brazoswood HS Clute, TX
95 Johnson HS San Antonio, TX
96 Lamar HS Houston, TX
97 West Orange-Stark HS Orange, TX
98 Godley HS Godley, TX
99 Monahans HS Monahans, TX
100 Frisco Liberty HS Frisco, TX

ronwx5x
09-08-2010, 01:30 PM
So Daingerfield is better than Copperas Cove (and even Stephenville) and could hang with The Woodlands? I don't think so.:(

LE Dad
09-08-2010, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by ronwx5x
So Daingerfield is better than Copperas Cove (and even Stephenville) and could hang with The Woodlands? I don't think so.:( DF is loaded with at least 6 D1 recruits. I don't know if they will win against em but they will sure give em a game.:D

Rocket
09-08-2010, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by LE Dad
DF is loaded with at least 6 D1 recruits. I don't know if they will win against em but they will sure give em a game.:D

No way. You are really smoking some crap now.

wimbo_pro
09-08-2010, 01:44 PM
#229?? YewwwHewwww!! Look out Browwood!

PPSTATEBOUND
09-08-2010, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by LE Dad
DF is loaded with at least 6 D1 recruits. I don't know if they will win against em but they will sure give em a game.:D

Daingerfield is loaded...might not beat the Woodlands but most certainly would monkey stomp numerous 4A and 5A clubs.

Rocket
09-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Daingerfield is loaded...might not beat the Woodlands but most certainly would monkey stomp numerous 4A and 5A clubs.

I would have to see it to believe it.

Rocket
09-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by wimbo_pro
#229?? YewwwHewwww!! Look out Browwood!

LOL

Reds fan
09-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Don't overlook Sealy at 74

wimbo_pro
09-08-2010, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Reds fan
Don't overlook Sealy at 74

Wow...Sealy at 74 and Wimberley at 229, but yet DC's has Wimberley ahead of Sealy in the rankings. Strange....

LE Dad
09-08-2010, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
No way. You are really smoking some crap now. Are you missing me Rocket?? Don't worry I will be back soon...

Like I said DF would probably give em a game... Now they would kill the Lions.:D

LE Dad
09-08-2010, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Rocket
I would have to see it to believe it. Load up and go catch em play Gilmer... Thats always a war. #1 will leave you saying wow!!

BwdLion73
09-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Daingerfield is loaded...might not beat the Woodlands but most certainly would monkey stomp numerous 4A and 5A clubs.

Could this be the year of the monkey stomp...instead of last years Donkey "Danky" Stomp!:thinking: ;)

gatordaze
09-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Daingerfield is loaded...might not beat the Woodlands but most certainly would monkey stomp numerous 4A and 5A clubs.

Still loaded...

BaseballUmp
09-08-2010, 02:33 PM
Caldwell #65???

Aesculus gilmus
09-08-2010, 02:39 PM
113. Tatum
185. Refugio

As I said on the AP Top 10 thread, I'd bet big bucks on Class 2A AP No. 3 Tatum against No. 2 Refugio if it were legal.

As for Daingerfield, they get Gilmer at home in two weeks and two days, so I'd expect a blowout based on Massey, but I doubt it'll be one.

WOS1
09-08-2010, 08:34 PM
WOS at #97.

And, you can only play 11 at a time. If your 11 are better than theirs then you got a shot. Friendswood has an enrollment of 1,980. WOS 699 and we took them to the brink and outplayed them everywhere but the scoreboard. I don't think there is as big a difference as some people think.

WOS87
09-08-2010, 08:38 PM
Massey uses the final rankings from the season before to start the new season... He doesn't develop a preseason ranking as far as I know. it will become more accurate as the season progresses. WO-S jumped from 138 to 97 despite a loss (by 1 pt to #46)

Although Wimberley being that low is confusing... My guess is that the huge loss Wimberley had at the hands of Graham in last year's Quarters and the huge win Brownwood had over Graham this year factors into it. Once the Wimberley loss drops out of his mathematics in the next few weeks (and it should) and if Wimberley continues to do well they should skyrocket upwards in the rankings.

LH Panther Mom
09-08-2010, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by wimbo_pro
#229?? YewwwHewwww!! Look out Browwood!
We're gaining ground on you at # 245! :p

Twirling Time
09-09-2010, 12:33 AM
The Daingerfield argument (could they hang in 5A) is the same one Gilmer used last year.

Take the best 11 of Daingerfield and the best 11 of say, Cove or Hebron or Cedar Park, and Daingerfield probably wins easily.

The problem is depth. You have to be deep at every position to be able to compete at a high level in 5A. Most 2A's aren't. For Daingerfield, you're talking a 5-to-1 enrollment difference just for the smallest 5A.

Even Celina, which has 150 kids out every year, can't do it consistently. They played 4A schools the last two years and went 3-1 against them, but injuries decimated them. In 5A, those kids at the end of the roster can all play at a high level.

BILLYFRED0000
09-09-2010, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Rocket
No way. You are really smoking some crap now.

No he is not. D field would run out of gas because of lack troops and fresh legs but if the 1's could stay they would compete.

ronwx5x
09-09-2010, 07:50 AM
It would seem to me that the power rankings are based on a team's performance. Not just the starting 11 but the entire team. I don't believe for a minute even D'fields starting 11 could hold up against many of the 4A and 5A teams they are "ranked" ahead of. Then when you look at depth, they would never hold up. I haven't seen D'field play, but I have seen The Woodlands and the size of those boys would have to be greater than any 2A or 3A teams. I may just go see if I can research the size part.

Farmersfan
09-09-2010, 08:00 AM
If I'm not mistaken this ranking is a power ranking based on performances and expectations vs. their peers, not each other. There is no chance in hell Daingerfield is the #21 BEST team in the state!!!! MASSEY isn't stupid enough to think 2A Daingerfield or any of the best 3A teams for that matter could hang with the top 5A teams. It wouldn't happen! Perhaps the best 3A could compete with the lower level 5A teams but even then it's doubtful and couldn't be done consistently!

LE Dad
09-09-2010, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Twirling Time
The Daingerfield argument (could they hang in 5A) is the same one Gilmer used last year.

Take the best 11 of Daingerfield and the best 11 of say, Cove or Hebron or Cedar Park, and Daingerfield probably wins easily.

The problem is depth. You have to be deep at every position to be able to compete at a high level in 5A. Most 2A's aren't. For Daingerfield, you're talking a 5-to-1 enrollment difference just for the smallest 5A.

Even Celina, which has 150 kids out every year, can't do it consistently. They played 4A schools the last two years and went 3-1 against them, but injuries decimated them. In 5A, those kids at the end of the roster can all play at a high level. Easy now... I never said they could compete in 5A. What I replied to is that they couldn't compete against certain teams in a single game. DF is not far off from 3A #'s this is the first year that the team is not 2 platooned, and it is possible that by the time district rolls around they will be 2 platooned.

LE Dad
09-09-2010, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
If I'm not mistaken this ranking is a power ranking based on performances and expectations vs. their peers, not each other. There is no chance in hell Daingerfield is the #21 BEST team in the state!!!! MASSEY isn't stupid enough to think 2A Daingerfield or any of the best 3A teams for that matter could hang with the top 5A teams. It wouldn't happen! Perhaps the best 3A could compete with the lower level 5A teams but even then it's doubtful and couldn't be done consistently! Not many 2As have this....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Steve-Edmond-96592

and 5 more D1 prospects to go with him.:thinking:

Global Swarming
09-09-2010, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by 50 yard line fa
I too have been looking for the 3A breakdown. I don't think it's an option this year. Best I could do was top 100 in the state. Just quickly scanning thru it, Carthage at #50 was the highest 3A. Found Brownwood at #54 and Celina at #59

Other 3A's: Gilmer #85 and Abilene Wylie #89.

Other notables: 2A Daingerfield at #21 and 4A Stephenville at #38.
Caldwell is at 65.

Wimberley was at #229 in the state.



1 Trinity HS Euless, TX
2 Abilene HS Abilene, TX
3 Katy HS Katy, TX
4 Allen HS Allen, TX
5 Coppell HS Coppell, TX
6 Lufkin HS Lufkin, TX
7 Stony Point HS Round Rock, TX
8 Lake Travis HS Austin, TX
9 Marcus HS Flower Mound, TX
10 John Tyler HS Tyler, TX
11 John H Guyer HS Denton, TX
12 Aledo HS Aledo, TX
13 Desoto HS Desoto, TX
14 Longview HS Longview, TX
15 Cedar Hill HS Cedar Hill, TX
16 Cinco Ranch Katy, TX
17 Klein HS Spring, TX
18 Billy Ryan HS Denton, TX
19 Arlington Bowie HS Arlington, TX
20 Woodlands HS, The The Woodlands, TX
21 Daingerfield HS Daingerfield, TX
22 Copperas Cove HS Copperas Cove, TX
23 Cedar Park HS Cedar Park, TX
24 Cooper HS Abilene Abilene, TX
25 Klein Oak HS Spring, TX
26 Hebron HS Carrollton, TX
27 Ronald Reagan HS San Antonio, TX
28 Flower Mound HS Flower Mound, TX
29 Klein Collins HS Spring, TX
30 New Braunfels HS New Braunfels, TX
31 Westfield HS Houston, TX
32 Smithson Valley HS Spring Branch, TX
33 Westlake HS Austin, TX
34 Skyline HS Dallas, TX
35 Highland Park HS (Dallas) Dallas, TX
36 Dr John D Horn HS Mesquite, TX
37 Midway HS (Waco) Waco, TX
38 Stephenville HS Stephenville, TX
39 South Garland HS Garland, TX
40 Red Oak HS Red Oak, TX
41 North Shore HS Houston, TX
42 Robert E Lee HS-Tyler Tyler, TX
43 Carroll HS Southlake Southlake, TX
44 Douglas Macarthur HS San Antonio, TX
45 Arlington HS Arlington, TX
46 Friendswood HS Friendswood, TX
47 Plano East Senior HS Plano, TX
48 Theodore Roosevelt HS San Antonio, TX
49 Plano West Senior HS Plano, TX
50 Carthage HS Carthage, TX
51 West Brook Sr HS Beaumont, TX
52 Klein Forest HS Houston, TX
53 Plano Senior HS Plano, TX
54 Brownwood HS Brownwood, TX
55 Pflugerville HS Pflugerville, TX
56 Brenham HS Brenham, TX
57 Winston Churchill HS San Antonio, TX
58 James Madison HS San Antonio, TX
59 Celina HS Celina, TX
60 Waxahachie HS Waxahachie, TX
61 Whitehouse HS Whitehouse, TX
62 L V Hightower HS Missouri City, TX
63 Richland Senior HS North Richland Hills, TX
64 Garland HS Garland, TX
65 Caldwell HS Caldwell, TX
66 A & M Consolidated HS College Station, TX
67 Clear Springs HS League City, TX
68 Harlingen HS Harlingen, TX
69 Andy Dekaney HS Houston, TX
70 Kirbyville HS Kirbyville, TX
71 Bowie HS Austin, TX
72 Argyle HS Argyle, TX
73 Sherman HS Sherman, TX
74 Sealy HS Sealy, TX
75 Montgomery HS Montgomery, TX
76 La Porte HS La Porte, TX
77 Wylie HS (Wylie) Wylie, TX
78 Pearland HS Pearland, TX
79 Pittsburg HS Pittsburg, TX
80 Tivy HS Kerrville, TX
81 Robert E Lee HS-Midland Midland, TX
82 Midland Senior HS Midland, TX
83 Alamo Heights HS San Antonio, TX
84 El Campo HS El Campo, TX
85 Gilmer HS Gilmer, TX
86 Marshall HS Marshall, TX
87 Belton HS Belton, TX
88 West Mesquite HS Mesquite, TX
89 Wylie HS (Abilene) Abilene, TX
90 Rowlett HS Rowlett, TX
91 Byron P Steele II HS Cibolo, TX
92 Sulphur Springs HS Sulphur Springs, TX
93 Angleton HS Angleton, TX
94 Brazoswood HS Clute, TX
95 Johnson HS San Antonio, TX
96 Lamar HS Houston, TX
97 West Orange-Stark HS Orange, TX
98 Godley HS Godley, TX
99 Monahans HS Monahans, TX
100 Frisco Liberty HS Frisco, TX

Global Swarming
09-09-2010, 09:33 AM
I see Caldwell at number 65.

Farmersfan
09-09-2010, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by LE Dad
Not many 2As have this....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Steve-Edmond-96592

and 5 more D1 prospects to go with him.:thinking:




Quite impressive for 2A! Not so much for 5A!

LE Dad
09-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Quite impressive for 2A! Not so much for 5A! Lol...quite impressive for most schools except maybe a 5A, and that would be a good class for them... but then again you misread the post. No one ever said that DF could compete in district against 5As on a regular basis, only that in one game against one of the 3 named schools that they would be competitive.

Farmersfan
09-09-2010, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by LE Dad
Lol...quite impressive for most schools except maybe a 5A, and that would be a good class for them... but then again you misread the post. No one ever said that DF could compete in district against 5As on a regular basis, only that in one game against one of the 3 named schools that they would be competitive.




I have no idea what you are talking about LE Dad! Did you dream something? Here is my post that you responded to with a link to a Daingerfield player as if to counter my statement!

"There is no chance in hell Daingerfield is the #21 BEST team in the state!!!! MASSEY isn't stupid enough to think 2A Daingerfield or any of the best 3A teams for that matter could hang with the top 5A teams. It wouldn't happen! Perhaps the best 3A could compete with the lower level 5A teams but even then it's doubtful and couldn't be done consistently!"

Where did you read anything about "District"?