Week 2 AP Poll September 7th

[Yoe_09]

Class 3A
School Record Total Points Prv
1. Brownwood (23) (2-0) 248 1
2. Carthage (2) (2-0) 217 2
3. Celina (2-0) 186 3
4. Prosper (2-0) 149 5
5. Sealy (2-0) 131 7
6. Wimberley (2-0) 123 8
7. Argyle (2-0) 100 10
8. Kirbyville (2-0) 73
9. Abilene Wylie (1-1) 32 6
10. Gilmer (1-1) 30 4

Others receiving votes: 11, Lucas Lovejoy 22. 12, West Orange-Stark 17. 13, Henderson 9. 13, Bridgeport 9. 15, Giddings 8. 16, Brookshire Royal 7. 17, Caldwell 4. 18, SA Houston 3. 19, Monahans 2. 19, Pittsburg 2. 19, Devine 2. 22, Silsbee 1.

[lostaussie]

I must say I am a little suprised by the #10 ranking.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by lostaussie
I must say I am a little suprised by the #10 ranking.
Me, too, even though it was to a ranked 2A opponent. Gilmer will be fine, and will be in the mix when it counts, though. I also think the pollsters are overlooking Henderson, too.

[wimbo_pro]

Wow..only one Region 4 in the top 10. Kind of shows the weakness of depth of the region.

[Bruce]

Waterboy,I will agree with you on the number 10 spot. Gilmer is and well be a good team this season.Thanks!

[Ranger354]

With only one reg 4 on the list it just show they don't know diddley....

[WOS87]

Here is The Associated Press high school poll for September 7, 2010, with first place votes in parentheses, records, points based on 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, and the team's ranking in last week's poll:

Class 5A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Euless Trinity (22) (2-0) 246 1
2. Abilene (3) (2-0) 224 2
3. Katy (2-0) 200 3
4. Round Rock Stony Point (2-0) 148 4
5. Allen (2-0) 126 5
6. Katy Cinco Ranch (2-0) 112 6
7. Beaumont West Brook (2-0) 90 7
8. DeSoto (2-0) 73 8
9. The Woodlands (2-0) 62 9
10. Lufkin (2-0) 33

Others receiving votes: 11, Cedar Hill 23. 12, Coppell 10. 14, Justin Northwest 7. 14, Round Rock 7. 16, Klein Collins 3. 17, League City Clear Springs 2. 17, Copperas Cove 2. 17, Austin Westlake 2. 17, SA MacArthur 2. 21, Denton Guyer 1. 21, Pflugerville 1. 21, Port Arthur Memorial 1.

Class 4A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Lake Travis (24) (2-0) 249 1
2. Aledo (1) (2-0) 223 2
3. Brenham (2-0) 194 3
4. Denton Ryan (2-0) 169 4
5. Kerrville Tivy (2-0) 145 5
6. Dallas Highland Park (2-0) 112 6
7. Smithson Valley (2-0) 96 7
8. Friendswood (2-0) 73 8
9. Tyler (1-1) 34 9
10. Cedar Park (2-0) 27

Others receiving votes: 11, Stephenville 26. 12, Hewitt Midway 14. 13, Angleton 4. 14, Killeen 3. 15, Gregory-Portland 2. 15, Everman 2. 17, New Braunfels Canyon 1. 17, Whitehouse 1.

Class 3A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Brownwood (23) (2-0) 248 1
2. Carthage (2) (2-0) 217 2
3. Celina (2-0) 186 3
4. Prosper (2-0) 149 5
5. Sealy (2-0) 131 7
6. Wimberley (2-0) 123 8
7. Argyle (2-0) 100 10
8. Kirbyville (2-0) 73
9. Abilene Wylie (1-1) 32 6
10. Gilmer (1-1) 30 4

Others receiving votes: 11, Lucas Lovejoy 22. 12, West Orange-Stark 17. 13, Henderson 9. 13, Bridgeport 9. 15, Giddings 8. 16, Brookshire Royal 7. 17, Caldwell 4. 18, SA Houston 3. 19, Monahans 2. 19, Pittsburg 2. 19, Devine 2. 22, Silsbee 1.

Class 2A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Daingerfield (23) (2-0) 246 1
2. Refugio (2) (2-0) 212 2
3. Tatum (2-0) 187 5
4. Littlefield (2-0) 177 4
5. Godley (2-0) 139 7
6. Cameron Yoe (2-0) 117 10
7. Lexington (2-0) 88
8. Linden-Kildare (2-0) 48
9. Newton (0-1) 41 3
10. Muleshoe (2-0) 30

Others receiving votes: 11, Blanco 25. 12, New London West Rusk 15. 13, Omaha Pewitt 10. 14, Bushland 8. 14, Edna 8. 14, Sonora 8. 17, Altair Rice 7. 18, White Oak 2. 18, Malakoff 2. 20, Franklin 1. 20, Grandview 1. 20, Lago Vista 1. 20, Comfort 1. 20, Woodville 1.

Class 1A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Goldthwaite (17) (2-0) 241 1
2. Canadian (5) (2-0) 210 2
3. Mart (3) (2-0) 207 3
4. Tenaha (2-0) 174 4
5. Albany (2-0) 125 6
6. New Deal (2-0) 107 7
7. Springlake-Earth (2-0) 88 8
8. Alto (2-0) 85 9
9. Kerens (2-0) 61 10
10. Stratford (1-1) 35

Others receiving votes: 11, Falls City 11. 12, Ganado 10. 13, Evadale 5. 14, Archer City 4. 14, Plains 4. 16, Sunray 3. 17, Stamford 1. 17, Seymour 1. 17, Mason 1. 17, Burton 1. 17, Cayuga 1.

[WOS87]

I didn't see that there already was a thread so I merged them.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Ranger354
With only one reg 4 on the list it just show they don't know diddley....

8 out of the top 11 in 3A are Regions I and II

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Ranger354
With only one reg 4 on the list it just show they don't know diddley....


region 4 is extremely weak dude

[bwdlionfan]

Why did Sville drop a spot after beating a ranked Wylie team? I know one of you is gonna pop off and say how much they'll come up after they beat the #1 3A team this week... but that's not my question.


Last week's poll:

Class 4A

School Record Total Points Prv

1. Lake Travis (25) (1-0) 250 1

2. Aledo (1-0) 223 2

3. Brenham (1-0) 197 3

4. Denton Ryan (1-0) 173 5

5. Kerrville Tivy (1-0) 133 8

6. Dallas Highland Park (1-0) 118 9

7. Smithson Valley (1-0) 89 10

8. Friendswood (1-0) 58

9. Tyler (0-1) 30 7

10. Stephenville (0-1) 29 4

Others receiving votes: 11, Cedar Park 20. 12, Hewitt Midway 14. 13, Austin Travis 2. 14, Angleton 9. 15, CC Calallen 7. 16, Everman 5. 16, Waxahachie 5. 18, Dayton 3. 19, Denton 2. 19, Hutto 2. 19, Killeen 2. 22, SA Alamo Heights 1. 22, Texarkana Texas 1. 22, Whitehouse 1. 22, Wolfforth Frenship 1.


This week's poll:

Class 4A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Lake Travis (24) (2-0) 249 1
2. Aledo (1) (2-0) 223 2
3. Brenham (2-0) 194 3
4. Denton Ryan (2-0) 169 4
5. Kerrville Tivy (2-0) 145 5
6. Dallas Highland Park (2-0) 112 6
7. Smithson Valley (2-0) 96 7
8. Friendswood (2-0) 73 8
9. Tyler (1-1) 34 9
10. Cedar Park (2-0) 27

Others receiving votes: 11, Stephenville 26. 12, Hewitt Midway 14. 13, Angleton 4. 14, Killeen 3. 15, Gregory-Portland 2. 15, Everman 2. 17, New Braunfels Canyon 1. 17, Whitehouse 1.

Cedar Park beat Killeen Ellison handily... but Ellison really doesn't have that much I didn't think... then again I don't keep up with them.

[Aesculus gilmus]

The Old Coach dropped Gilmer to No. 24, which is where I'd rather be at this point in the season.

Dave Campbell's Texas Football dropped us to No. 23 and there are three teams in our district ranked above us. DCTF is the only pollster I've seen who even seems to be aware Henderson is now in 3A.

BTW, I'd bet a pretty good sum on Tatum against Refugio if it were not illegal to do so. I think Tatum would put a "furious" beating on "Re Fury O."

[Aesculus gilmus]

Well, now that I read it more closely, I see Henderson is No. 13 now, so I take that back. DCTF has them No. 12, so there's growing agreement that they're for real.

They still haven't even broken The Old Coach's Top 25, though:
http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1122383

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus

BTW, I'd bet a pretty good sum on Tatum against Refugio if it were not illegal to do so. I think Tatum would put a "furious" beating on "Re Fury O."

Tatum... lol

Have you seen Refugio play?

[Rocket]

Originally posted by bwdlionfan
Why did Sville drop a spot after beating a ranked Wylie team? I know one of you is gonna pop off and say how much they'll come up after they beat the #1 3A team this week... but that's not my question.


Last week's poll:

Class 4A

School Record Total Points Prv

1. Lake Travis (25) (1-0) 250 1

2. Aledo (1-0) 223 2

3. Brenham (1-0) 197 3

4. Denton Ryan (1-0) 173 5

5. Kerrville Tivy (1-0) 133 8

6. Dallas Highland Park (1-0) 118 9

7. Smithson Valley (1-0) 89 10

8. Friendswood (1-0) 58

9. Tyler (0-1) 30 7

10. Stephenville (0-1) 29 4

Others receiving votes: 11, Cedar Park 20. 12, Hewitt Midway 14. 13, Austin Travis 2. 14, Angleton 9. 15, CC Calallen 7. 16, Everman 5. 16, Waxahachie 5. 18, Dayton 3. 19, Denton 2. 19, Hutto 2. 19, Killeen 2. 22, SA Alamo Heights 1. 22, Texarkana Texas 1. 22, Whitehouse 1. 22, Wolfforth Frenship 1.


This week's poll:

Class 4A

School Record Total Points Prv
1. Lake Travis (24) (2-0) 249 1
2. Aledo (1) (2-0) 223 2
3. Brenham (2-0) 194 3
4. Denton Ryan (2-0) 169 4
5. Kerrville Tivy (2-0) 145 5
6. Dallas Highland Park (2-0) 112 6
7. Smithson Valley (2-0) 96 7
8. Friendswood (2-0) 73 8
9. Tyler (1-1) 34 9
10. Cedar Park (2-0) 27

Others receiving votes: 11, Stephenville 26. 12, Hewitt Midway 14. 13, Angleton 4. 14, Killeen 3. 15, Gregory-Portland 2. 15, Everman 2. 17, New Braunfels Canyon 1. 17, Whitehouse 1.

Cedar Park beat Killeen Ellison handily... but Ellison really doesn't have that much I didn't think... then again I don't keep up with them.

Cuz Sville sucks...

[sinfan75]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
region 4 is extremely weak dude I don't think R4 is as weak as everybody thinks. Quite a few teams that had strong showings last year got most of their starters back this year. We'll see as the year unfolds.

[SintonFan]

Originally posted by sinfan75
I don't think R4 is as weak as everybody thinks. Quite a few teams that had strong showings last year got most of their starters back this year. We'll see as the year unfolds.

I can think of four fairly strong teams in our area.:nerd:

[Rocket]

Originally posted by lostaussie
I must say I am a little suprised by the #10 ranking.

I know, I was thinking 15 or 16...

[wimbo_pro]

I think our ranking of 6th is about right at this point...I know we have a good team, but until we play Sealy and other teams like that (which it appears we will not until the play offs) it would be a leap of faith to put us in the rankings with the "big boys" (the top 5). We are not packed with D1 talent (just one), but that was the case (more or less) in 05 as well. Our coaches find a way to mold the team to make up for this lack of individual talent. That "molding" is still a works in progress.

[Rocket]

I hope we get to show you how moldy your team really is in the playoffs.:D

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by Rocket
I hope we get to show you how moldy your team really is in the playoffs.:D

It would have to be the finals...assuming you are going D2. And, needless to say, you guys dont scare us!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
It would have to be the finals...assuming you are going D2. And, needless to say, you guys dont scare us!
Oh heck. You know every 2A, 3A, 4A and most 5A's are scared of them! :rolleyes: :doh:

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Oh heck. You know every 2A, 3A, 4A and most 5A's are scared of them! :rolleyes: :doh:

LH can beat them!!!!:)

[Rocket]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Oh heck. You know every 2A, 3A, 4A and most 5A's are scared of them! :rolleyes: :doh:

I know LH is...and should be.

Wimberley should be, as well.

HAHAHA

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Aesculus gilmus
The Old Coach dropped Gilmer to No. 24, which is where I'd rather be at this point in the season.

Dave Campbell's Texas Football dropped us to No. 23 and there are three teams in our district ranked above us. DCTF is the only pollster I've seen who even seems to be aware Henderson is now in 3A.

BTW, I'd bet a pretty good sum on Tatum against Refugio if it were not illegal to do so. I think Tatum would put a "furious" beating on "Re Fury O."

DCTF has WO-S at #8 which I agree with given a 1 point loss to the #8 4A team

[trojandad]

87, does the careermove have anything todo with seeing you out here in the wee hours? just curious....

[wimbo_pro]

Originally posted by WOS87
DCTF has WO-S at #8 which I agree with given a 1 point loss to the #8 4A team

#8 is just fine for any team this early in the season...you are recognized as a good team, but you dont have the huge target on you. I see DC has us as #4. I dunno about that, we have more to prove to be ranked that high, IMHO. If we win the next two and then hand Sealy a solid defeat, then yes...maybe. But #4 this early? I dunno....

[MoveInDad]

Sure would've loved to see #3 and #4 on the schedule... so would all the kids. The debate still goes on around here about who 'backed away' from the match-up and why...

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
Sure would've loved to see #3 and #4 on the schedule... so would all the kids. The debate still goes on around here about who 'backed away' from the match-up and why...

You are right and that many of us would love to see the game.

This is my quick take on the situation.

The last two years coming off a State Championship in 2007 Celina had a difficult time in scheduling anyone, this was at the end of 2007.

Lytle, TCA, Daingerfield, Whitehouse (4A), and Ft Worth Arlington Heights (4A) where all that Celina could draw. Celina found takers in teams that either were in a class ahead or thought that had it going on and wanted a run at the Orange to see how that stacked up or in the case of Lytle a last minute deal for two teams that could not find a dance partner for week 0 (Lytle subsequently bailed on the back half of the meeting in 09 after a 66-0 drubbing).

Remember that at that time, Daingerfield could see what talent that they had in the pipeline (7-8 D1 players) as could TCA with Johnny Cat at QB and a senior laden defense. Those two teams either won state (back to back for Dfield) or played for state (TCA). Combine that with the emergence of the best Prosper team ever in 2008 and and even better Argyle team last year and the Bobcats had a plateful.

In 2008 we played Daingerfield at home instead of a neutral site because of an incoming hurricane. It was a dog fight with several injuries and generally physical beatings on both sides of the ball. That night, they lost for the first time at home in forever. They followed that up with a 1 point loss on the road at 4A Whitehouse. They then ran into a Prosper team that held a grudge and had a point to make after years of abuse. They beat the Bobcats soundly and Celina was coming apart at the seems. Newspaper articles were being written about players and the gray cats (old guys) wanted a change. Butch stuck to his team and they rallied around Troy Mc. and the seniors. They turned it on in the playoffs and made it to the big dance only to run into a D2 college team in Carthage. I was proud that they hung as close as they did to them as they were severely over matched.

In 2009 they lost their QB to injury against Daingerfield in a monsoon, they lost the second QB a few weeks later. they then lost the starting SAM LB'er after that and limped into the payoffs a 1 dimensional offense that could not come away with a round 2 win even after holding the opponent to 63 yard of O for the game.

Fast forward to schedule day...2010 UIL rolls around and the district powers decided that Celina needed to be in D1 and found a semi-close district to throw us into. Contrary to most Celinians expectations they were no longer aligned with Prosper or Argyle. In fact many talked of a Celina. Prosper, Argyle, PP, and Aubrey district after PP and Aubrey moved up to 3A. What a district that would have been... instead they are in a 5 team district and surprised to be the D1 representative (should they make the playoffs).

So what happened on scheduling day this round?

The following is my guess. Anyone that really knows does not talk on message boards. The following is gleaned from comments that I have heard or theories that I have floated and not had completely dismissed (until Pick and Keith read this)

1) Celina thought that the likely candidates would be in the district as always.
2) UIL decision morning is quickly followed by what can only be described as the UIL Game Exchange that looks like Wall St.
3) Most coaches would not choose to play in pre-district anyone that they thought they would face in the playoffs as it is always harder to beat a team the second time around.
4) The coaches did not factor that they were D1 so they assumed that Prosper in LL district meant playoff potential the same as with Argyle this relates to #3
5) Some already agreed upon games like Ranchview (Old Coach Classic), PCA, and the Pilot Point rivalry renew if they were not district foes limited the available spots. BTW PP was the one that chose not to play Celina when the prior re-alignment happened. Look what it did for them!
6) After the prior 2 seasons, why play an opponent that your kids and their kids take it to another level increasing the chances for injuries before district even begins.

As many believe that Coach Ford's main job is to win #9, I think he was smart taking a different approach. I don't think PCA and Pilot Point are weak choices and provide enough seasoning to find out what they have. I for one could care less if we had they played 10 scrimmages and then the playoffs as long as the coaches can get the boys ready.

Time will tell but I am optimistic that this team is made for this approach. They are Senior rich, deep along the lines and have believed and been focused on a SC since 2nd grade. They express that they have little doubt that they can compete eventually with the best that the state has to offer. Ultimately, I think UIL did Celina a favor with Realignment as historically D1 schools will go D2 and Celina the opposite. If this boards opinions of how their respective regions stack rank, then Celina is sitting pretty good behind LL in R2 D1. Looks like Henderson may keep the Dawgs of ET and Gilmer in D2. And 3ADL consensus is that Bridgeport is second best in R1 behind what should be D2 bound Brownwood. Bridgeport is talented but could not hang with Celina in the live qtr of the scrimmage. Not that a scrimmage tells the whole tale as Celina handled LL last year in the scrimmage and would not have fared well at years end.



My contenders look like this:

probable Celina losses at this point if they played...

1)Brownwood - Shipley is a game changer and the biggest threat in the state. QB is smart and can get it done.
3)Carthage - Defending SC and 30 in row makes believers that are hard to beat
3)Gilmer - Props to any defending state champ

Could go either way...

4)Argyle - Knocking off #1 might light the fire. great coaching, great discipline, still a mountain to climb, something to prove, hungry

4)Celina - 29 Seniors that believe, could have an unstoppable offense, Big and strong across the lines 2 deep, 5-6 RB's that are interchangeable, great leader at QB, potentially very good D if MLB matures in a hurry and DL gets healthy and reaches their potential. O may have to carry the team early but I don't see many putting 28+ on them and I don't see the O scoring less than 40.

Missing something...

6) Lovejoy - lost too many Senior lineman, Means can't outscore everyone by himself, not enough depth to overcome injuries, Defense is not championship quality yet
7) Propser - Graduation hurt, Mario and Blake leaving hurt, MLB out for season, new kids that have not played together need time to come together. Come from behind La Vega win nice but they are not really on the radar. Contender would have thumped a team that barely gets a mention anymore. D2 at any rate..

I am now a big Henderson and Sanger fan. If Celina can avoid Carthage, Gilmer and Argyle, I think we can run the table. Prestonwood looks to have been be the biggest hurdle until the playoffs

[Old Cardinal]

I think Henderson is the best team in their classification!

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Old Cardinal
I think Henderson is the best team in their classification! They may be?? We will know in the next 3-6 weeks just how good they are...

[waterboy]

Originally posted by LE Dad
They may be?? We will know in the next 3-6 weeks just how good they are...
That's definitely the truth. They have to play their big rival, Kilgore, this week. Anything can happen in that kind of game. I wouldn't be surprised if Kilgore played lights out against them. Then they play Center and Liberty-Eylau. We'll see how they stack up after pre-district. Their competition the first couple of weeks was pretty weak.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by waterboy
That's definitely the truth. They have to play their big rival, Kilgore, this week. Anything can happen in that kind of game. I wouldn't be surprised if Kilgore played lights out against them. Then they play Center and Liberty-Eylau. We'll see how they stack up after pre-district. Their competition the first couple of weeks was pretty weak. Kilgore should give em a good test, but I saw where Kilgores main back is slowed or out because of a knee. I am real curious to see if Kilgore moves the ball like MP did (308 yds).

[MoveInDad]

Originally posted by gatordaze
You are right and that many of us would love to see the game.

This is my quick take on the situation.


I appreciate your thoughtful, yet quick take on the situation ;)

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
I appreciate your thoughtful, yet quick take on the situation ;) http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Laughing_animation_1.gif

[gatordaze]

Originally posted by MoveInDad
I appreciate your thoughtful, yet quick take on the situation ;)

I hope you realized I was being a smart A when I wrote that!

[MN95]

Originally posted by gatordaze
You are right and that many of us would love to see the game.

This is my quick take on the situation.

The last two years coming off a State Championship in 2007 Celina had a difficult time in scheduling anyone, this was at the end of 2007.

Lytle, TCA, Daingerfield, Whitehouse (4A), and Ft Worth Arlington Heights (4A) where all that Celina could draw. Celina found takers in teams that either were in a class ahead or thought that had it going on and wanted a run at the Orange to see how that stacked up or in the case of Lytle a last minute deal for two teams that could not find a dance partner for week 0 (Lytle subsequently bailed on the back half of the meeting in 09 after a 66-0 drubbing).

Remember that at that time, Daingerfield could see what talent that they had in the pipeline (7-8 D1 players) as could TCA with Johnny Cat at QB and a senior laden defense. Those two teams either won state (back to back for Dfield) or played for state (TCA). Combine that with the emergence of the best Prosper team ever in 2008 and and even better Argyle team last year and the Bobcats had a plateful.

In 2008 we played Daingerfield at home instead of a neutral site because of an incoming hurricane. It was a dog fight with several injuries and generally physical beatings on both sides of the ball. That night, they lost for the first time at home in forever. They followed that up with a 1 point loss on the road at 4A Whitehouse. They then ran into a Prosper team that held a grudge and had a point to make after years of abuse. They beat the Bobcats soundly and Celina was coming apart at the seems. Newspaper articles were being written about players and the gray cats (old guys) wanted a change. Butch stuck to his team and they rallied around Troy Mc. and the seniors. They turned it on in the playoffs and made it to the big dance only to run into a D2 college team in Carthage. I was proud that they hung as close as they did to them as they were severely over matched.

In 2009 they lost their QB to injury against Daingerfield in a monsoon, they lost the second QB a few weeks later. they then lost the starting SAM LB'er after that and limped into the payoffs a 1 dimensional offense that could not come away with a round 2 win even after holding the opponent to 63 yard of O for the game.

Fast forward to schedule day...2010 UIL rolls around and the district powers decided that Celina needed to be in D1 and found a semi-close district to throw us into. Contrary to most Celinians expectations they were no longer aligned with Prosper or Argyle. In fact many talked of a Celina. Prosper, Argyle, PP, and Aubrey district after PP and Aubrey moved up to 3A. What a district that would have been... instead they are in a 5 team district and surprised to be the D1 representative (should they make the playoffs).

So what happened on scheduling day this round?

The following is my guess. Anyone that really knows does not talk on message boards. The following is gleaned from comments that I have heard or theories that I have floated and not had completely dismissed (until Pick and Keith read this)

1) Celina thought that the likely candidates would be in the district as always.
2) UIL decision morning is quickly followed by what can only be described as the UIL Game Exchange that looks like Wall St.
3) Most coaches would not choose to play in pre-district anyone that they thought they would face in the playoffs as it is always harder to beat a team the second time around.
4) The coaches did not factor that they were D1 so they assumed that Prosper in LL district meant playoff potential the same as with Argyle this relates to #3
5) Some already agreed upon games like Ranchview (Old Coach Classic), PCA, and the Pilot Point rivalry renew if they were not district foes limited the available spots. BTW PP was the one that chose not to play Celina when the prior re-alignment happened. Look what it did for them!
6) After the prior 2 seasons, why play an opponent that your kids and their kids take it to another level increasing the chances for injuries before district even begins.

As many believe that Coach Ford's main job is to win #9, I think he was smart taking a different approach. I don't think PCA and Pilot Point are weak choices and provide enough seasoning to find out what they have. I for one could care less if we had they played 10 scrimmages and then the playoffs as long as the coaches can get the boys ready.

Time will tell but I am optimistic that this team is made for this approach. They are Senior rich, deep along the lines and have believed and been focused on a SC since 2nd grade. They express that they have little doubt that they can compete eventually with the best that the state has to offer. Ultimately, I think UIL did Celina a favor with Realignment as historically D1 schools will go D2 and Celina the opposite. If this boards opinions of how their respective regions stack rank, then Celina is sitting pretty good behind LL in R2 D1. Looks like Henderson may keep the Dawgs of ET and Gilmer in D2. And 3ADL consensus is that Bridgeport is second best in R1 behind what should be D2 bound Brownwood. Bridgeport is talented but could not hang with Celina in the live qtr of the scrimmage. Not that a scrimmage tells the whole tale as Celina handled LL last year in the scrimmage and would not have fared well at years end.



My contenders look like this:

probable Celina losses at this point if they played...

1)Brownwood - Shipley is a game changer and the biggest threat in the state. QB is smart and can get it done.
3)Carthage - Defending SC and 30 in row makes believers that are hard to beat
3)Gilmer - Props to any defending state champ

Could go either way...

4)Argyle - Knocking off #1 might light the fire. great coaching, great discipline, still a mountain to climb, something to prove, hungry

4)Celina - 29 Seniors that believe, could have an unstoppable offense, Big and strong across the lines 2 deep, 5-6 RB's that are interchangeable, great leader at QB, potentially very good D if MLB matures in a hurry and DL gets healthy and reaches their potential. O may have to carry the team early but I don't see many putting 28+ on them and I don't see the O scoring less than 40.

Missing something...

6) Lovejoy - lost too many Senior lineman, Means can't outscore everyone by himself, not enough depth to overcome injuries, Defense is not championship quality yet
7) Propser - Graduation hurt, Mario and Blake leaving hurt, MLB out for season, new kids that have not played together need time to come together. Come from behind La Vega win nice but they are not really on the radar. Contender would have thumped a team that barely gets a mention anymore. D2 at any rate..

I am now a big Henderson and Sanger fan. If Celina can avoid Carthage, Gilmer and Argyle, I think we can run the table. Prestonwood looks to have been be the biggest hurdle until the playoffs

If this is what you consider "quick", your wife must adore you.

[LH_Tuff]

Originally posted by MN95
If this is what you consider "quick", your wife must adore you. :clap: :clap:

[WOS87]

Originally posted by trojandad
87, does the careermove have anything todo with seeing you out here in the wee hours? just curious....

I've got a gazillion unused vacation hours from my last job such that I don't start orientation for the new job until October 11th! :D :D :D

So YES would be the answer....

[navscanmaster]

Has Henderson really improved that much from last year? There is one team out there that the AP is blissfully ignorant of that embarrassed them last year 47-0 and still has the same defensive players on the field....:thinking:

[Bosqueville]

Originally posted by MN95
If this is what you consider "quick", your wife must adore you.

Aaahahahahahahahah! That was dang funny!

[trojandad]

Originally posted by WOS87
I've got a gazillion unused vacation hours from my last job such that I don't start orientation for the new job until October 11th! :D :D :D

So YES would be the answer....

different question....i couldn't believe how far down the list they had you guys on strength of schedule, i would have believed you were in the top 25 at worst....what'd you think?

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Has Henderson really improved that much from last year? There is one team out there that the AP is blissfully ignorant of that embarrassed them last year 47-0 and still has the same defensive players on the field....:thinking:

I was thinking the same thing.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Has Henderson really improved that much from last year? There is one team out there that the AP is blissfully ignorant of that embarrassed them last year 47-0 and still has the same defensive players on the field....:thinking: Henderson folks think they are great, and they did beat MT Pleasant 40-0, but were aided by 6 turnovers. They also gave up about 360 yds on D, but claims are that was due to subbing. I am not completely sold on them yet, but LE plays them in 3 weeks so I will let you know then.