Corey Haim Dead

[Txbroadcaster]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/teen-idol-corey-haim-dies-at-38/37184?nc

sadly not shocking

[SWMustang]

Not shocked in the least. Shocked he lived this long with his various drug habits.

[BullsFan]

Not unexpected but still very sad. Yet another example of why children and Hollywood are rarely a good combination.

[LE Dad]

Yet another teen star dead.:(

[GreenMonster]

See kids, when your mom/dad/coach/teacher tells you that drugs kill people we know what we're talking about. I know that you're thinking "Man, it's only a little pot," but pot leads to other stuff and other stuff kills you dead. Stay clean and live a long, good life with kids and grandkids.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
See kids, when your mom/dad/coach/teacher tells you that drugs kill people we know what we're talking about. I know that you're thinking "Man, it's only a little pot," but pot leads to other stuff and other stuff kills you dead. Stay clean and live a long, good life with kids and grandkids. Very true, a former friend of mine, from a pretty "well to do" family started with a little drink, then a little smoke, then a little snort, then a little needle. His father lost everything...business, home and ultimately his life (massive heart attack in his 40s) trying to keep this young man out of prison to no avail. This kid had the money, looks and the personality to have any girl he wanted in high school, but now he is being "punked out"(no joke) in prison and that is what drugs can do to you also. Dude had everything and blew it!!

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
See kids, when your mom/dad/coach/teacher tells you that drugs kill people we know what we're talking about. I know that you're thinking "Man, it's only a little pot," but pot leads to other stuff and other stuff kills you dead. Stay clean and live a long, good life with kids and grandkids.

I started with Milk then moved to juice then went to water then with beer.:rolleyes:

[Ranger Mom]

I don't advocate illegal drug use, but to say if you smoke pot you will turn into a full fledged drug addict is ludicrous.

I know several people who smoke pot on a regular basis, and that is the only drug they do.

Not MY preferred choice, but they are grown men and women with successful careers, nice home and families.

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I don't advocate illegal drug use, but to say if you smoke pot you will turn into a full fledged drug addict is ludicrous.

I know several people who smoke pot on a regular basis, and that is the only drug they do.

Not MY preferred choice, but they are grown men and women with successful careers, nice home and families.

Well I was told while growing up that if you puffed it you would more then likely kill your brother:D , but not sister.:rolleyes:

for a good laugh.


http://weblog.timoregan.com/2007/01/why-is-pot-still-illegal-in-2007-could.html

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I don't advocate illegal drug use, but to say if you smoke pot you will turn into a full fledged drug addict is ludicrous.

I know several people who smoke pot on a regular basis, and that is the only drug they do.

Not MY preferred choice, but they are grown men and women with successful careers, nice home and families.

While it's true that your children will not look like melted Barbie dolls if you have smoked pot you will not find a crack head, **** freak or other hard drug user who will not tell you they started with pot.
As far as the grown men and women with successful careers....well good for them just don't come crying to me when their life and career gets turned upside down after getting busted. I'm sure they know the ramifications of getting caught.

[BwdLion73]

Is methamphetamine a banned word?:thinking:

I got the * when I typed it?

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
While it's true that your children will not look like melted Barbie dolls if you have smoked pot you will not find a crack head, **** freak or other hard drug user who will not tell you they started with pot.
As far as the grown men and women with successful careers....well good for them just don't come crying to me when their life and career gets turned upside down after getting busted. I'm sure they know the ramifications of getting caught.

:rolleyes: I bet you wouldnt find one alcoholic that couldnt tell you they didnt start with milk.......

The ramifications dont fit a victimless crime.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
While it's true that your children will not look like melted Barbie dolls if you have smoked pot you will not find a crack head, **** freak or other hard drug user who will not tell you they started with pot.
As far as the grown men and women with successful careers....well good for them just don't come crying to me when their life and career gets turned upside down after getting busted. I'm sure they know the ramifications of getting caught.

That is like saying someone who started eating candy bars as a kid will automatically become obese

most start with pot simply because it is readily avaliable for a cheap price almost everywhere.

When the crack craze was hitting New York in the 80's it was so cheap it became the starting drug for most..again not because of a gateway, but it was avalible and cheap.

And your right about being busted..real sad that in the "land of the free" You can go to jail for doing something in the privacy of your own home that is not directly hurting anyone else

[BwdLion73]

I'm not trying to get in an arguement just telling you what I have seen. I recall in collage my friends rolling joints and peering out the windows watching for the boogie man. I left and never went back.
I drive a lot of roads where there is nothing but me and the buzzards. While I think it is OK to go 80 I know what will happen if I meet a trooper.
I made a decision early in life that I was not going to be peering out the window.

Blaze away...gripe about the law....just don't act suprised.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
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Blaze away...gripe about the law....just don't act suprised. [/B]


so anyone who gripes about the law automatically "blazes away"?

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
so anyone who gripes about the law automatically "blazes away"?

No you may do either or all.;)

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Many of the founding fathers notated in letters their pleasure in smoking *********, Including Washington, Madison, Monroe, Jefferson & Andrew Jackson.

So if this is the case, then one can assume our country, the declaration of independence, the constitution, the whole idea of the way we live today was thought up during some drug induced delusion. It was only the need for the founding father to continually run out to the local colony store for Nachos to cure the munchies that prevented things from happening quicker.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I don't advocate illegal drug use, but to say if you smoke pot you will turn into a full fledged drug addict is ludicrous.

I know several people who smoke pot on a regular basis, and that is the only drug they do.

Not MY preferred choice, but they are grown men and women with successful careers, nice home and families. I guess it has something to do with personality. I can walk into a casino, drop a little money and say enough. I can drink a beer or 2 and be done, but some people just can't say enough.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
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As far as the grown men and women with successful careers....well good for them just don't come crying to me when their life and career gets turned upside down after getting busted.

If something like that were to happen, I am sure you would be one of the last people I would think of to "come cry to".

Not that I would need to cry anyway, it wouldn't effect me or my immediate family anyway!!!

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by LE Dad
I guess it has something to do with personality. I can walk into a casino, drop a little money and say enough. I can drink a beer or 2 and be done, but some people just can't say enough.

There's me a good vice. Get me to the casino,give me some of them free Crown and diet Cokes and provide me with someone to drive the elevator for me to get to my room and I'll show you a good time.

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by BwdLion73
I recall in collage my friends peering out the windows watching for the boogie man. I left and never went back.

Sounds like you could would get the same reaction from young college friends by watching a scary movie on the right night....you ever ran from one of those?

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
That is like saying someone who started eating candy bars as a kid will automatically become obese

most start with pot simply because it is readily avaliable for a cheap price almost everywhere.

When the crack craze was hitting New York in the 80's it was so cheap it became the starting drug for most..again not because of a gateway, but it was avalible and cheap.

And your right about being busted..real sad that in the "land of the free" You can go to jail for doing something in the privacy of your own home that is not directly hurting anyone else

So the dude from ACU that had "consensual" sex with his sister shouldnt have got into any trouble since it was in their home and didnt directly hurt anyone?




BEAST

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by BEAST
So the dude from ACU that had "consensual" sex with his sister shouldnt have got into any trouble since it was in their home and didnt directly hurt anyone?




BEAST

apples oranges....one man blazes away and then pops a butter tub of corn in the old micro the kicks back puts the rest up and buckles in for a none stop 3 hour ride of laughter, fun and munching.... then on to bed...no victim no crime.

Dude has sex with his 15 year old sister.....the "Victim" in this case, doesnt matter if it was in his own home, there still is a victim...this is not a victimless crime as the above is.

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Sounds like you could would get the same reaction from young college friends by watching a scary movie on the right night....you ever ran from one of those?

Yeah...I don't like scary movies. :)

[BEAST]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
apples oranges....one man blazes away and then pops a butter tub of corn in the old micro the kicks back puts the rest up and buckles in for a none stop 3 hour ride of laughter, fun and munching.... then on to bed...no victim no crime.

Dude has sex with his 15 year old sister.....the "Victim" in this case, doesnt matter if it was in his own home, there still is a victim...this is not a victimless crime as the above is.

There is a victim in consenual sex?

Heres is what makes the two cases related, they are both against the law.




BEAST

[BullsFan]

Originally posted by BEAST
There is a victim in consenual sex?

Heres is what makes the two cases related, they are both against the law.


There is a victim in consensual sex if one of the 'consenters' in a minor. A minor is not able to make a fully informed decision about whether or not to consent.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by BullsFan
There is a victim in consensual sex if one of the 'consenters' in a minor. A minor is not able to make a fully informed decision about whether or not to consent.

What if they are both minors?

[BEAST]

Originally posted by Pick6
What if they are both minors?

Exactly.




BEAST

[BullsFan]

Originally posted by Pick6
What if they are both minors?

If they are both minors there is no crime committed. Its still a horrible mistake in my opinion, and there are moral, ethical, psychological, and sometimes physical ramifications, but there no legal consequences.

[SWMustang]

I think the cart's being put before the horse in this thread. It's been reported that he was prescribed, Vicodin, Soma (muscle relaxer), Valium and an anti psychotic days before his death. Corey had publicly comented about taking 80 Valiums a day at one point in his life. Seems extremely unwise for a doctor to prscribe that many meds at one time to a known drug abuser.

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
one man blazes away and then pops a butter tub of corn in the old micro the kicks back puts the rest up and buckles in for a none stop 3 hour ride of laughter, fun and munching.... then on to bed...no victim no crime.

.

Well just tell ol'
Coreys friends and family it was a victimless crime.

[PPSTATEBOUND]

The hungry, happy popcorn eater had nothing to do with Corey's tragic and untimely death or even the people that deal with the manufactured substance he overdosed on for that matter..... the only victim in his so called night of crime behind the TV and a good movie was the tub of buttered pop corn he just devoured. :inlove:

[BwdLion73]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
The hungry, happy popcorn eater had nothing to do with Corey's tragic and untimely death or even the people that deal with the manufactured substance he overdosed on for that matter..... the only victim in his so called night of crime behind the TV and a good movie was the tub of buttered pop corn he just devoured. :inlove:

As long as it was not a scary movie;) :inlove:

[slingshot]

Originally posted by BEAST
So the dude from ACU that had "consensual" sex with his sister shouldnt have got into any trouble since it was in their home and didnt directly hurt anyone?BEAST Read about this... He was 16, she was 15. Consensual sex. Now he's a 'registered sex offender'??? Is she? Was it wrong? Sure... Criminal? Can someone with legal knowledge explain this one?

[GreenMonster]

I'm sorry that this thread got hijacked and spun into what it has become. Drugs are illegal for specific reasons. I felt this thread was a perfect opportunity to possibly shed a little light on something that is becoming more and more widespread amongst our youth. I actually expected a little more support from the older/wiser members of this board in my attempt to educate the younger members of the board, but I guess the laissez faire general attitude of minor illegal drug usage spreads wide and far. I'm rather disappointed by this as all that chose to make an argument against my position essentially are telling our younger members that it's ok to smoke out, just don't get caught, and not to worry about it leading to other drugs in the future. :dispntd: :dispntd: :dispntd:

[BullsFan]

Originally posted by slingshot
Read about this... He was 16, she was 15. Consensual sex. Now he's a 'registered sex offender'??? Is she? Was it wrong? Sure... Criminal? Can someone with legal knowledge explain this one?

I think 16 is the age of consent in Texas, and I also think you can be tried as an adult at that age. Perhaps that's why...? I don't really know. To be honest, I have a bigger problem with the brother/sister angle than the age.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
I'm sorry that this thread got hijacked and spun into what it has become. Drugs are illegal for specific reasons. I felt this thread was a perfect opportunity to possibly shed a little light on something that is becoming more and more widespread amongst our youth. I actually expected a little more support from the older/wiser members of this board in my attempt to educate the younger members of the board, but I guess the laissez faire general attitude of minor illegal drug usage spreads wide and far. I'm rather disappointed by this as all that chose to make an argument against my position essentially are telling our younger members that it's ok to smoke out, just don't get caught, and not to worry about it leading to other drugs in the future. :dispntd: :dispntd: :dispntd:

I didn't say that at all. But, I also know what you said isn't correct 100% of the time.

[PPSTATEBOUND]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
I'm sorry that this thread got hijacked and spun into what it has become. Drugs are illegal for specific reasons. I felt this thread was a perfect opportunity to possibly shed a little light on something that is becoming more and more widespread amongst our youth.

Great point!! prescription drug use by teenagers is at a alltime HIGH.

So I'll take this tragic death, the great feedback from the topic, and use it to talk with my children about the hazards of the numerous government controlled prescription drugs with LF50 ratings that will cancel a Rhino's Christmas, and that have taken so many human lives. The ones listed as prescribed in Corey's case all sound uneeded, only wanted and very accessable. I'm sorry for another family that lost a loved one into the prescription drug trap so many pharmacuticals want you in and the government sadly allows, pushes and accepts because of its insane outdated agenda/policies.:(

My children will thank me for this.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Great point!! prescription drug use by teenagers is at a alltime HIGH.

So I'll take this tragic death, the great feedback from the topic, and use it to talk with my children about the hazards of the numerous government controlled prescription drugs with LF50 ratings that will cancel a Rhino's Christmas, and that have taken so many human lives. The ones listed as prescribed in Corey's case all sound uneeded, only wanted and very accessable. I'm sorry for another family that lost a loved one into the prescription drug trap so many pharmacuticals want you in and the government sadly allows, pushes and accepts because of its insane outdated agenda/policies.:(

My children will thank me for this.

I don't talk a lot about organizations I am involved with.....but I must admit the "legal" prescription drugs are a heck of a lot scarier, to me anyway, than pot!!!

Those drugs, Adderall, Lortab, etc. seem to be the "drug of choice" to the younger set around here and they are a HUGE problem.

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by PPSTATEBOUND
Great point!! prescription drug use by teenagers is at a alltime HIGH.

So I'll take this tragic death, the great feedback from the topic, and use it to talk with my children about the hazards of the numerous government controlled prescription drugs with LF50 ratings that will cancel a Rhino's Christmas, and that have taken so many human lives. The ones listed as prescribed in Corey's case all sound uneeded, only wanted and very accessable. I'm sorry for another family that lost a loved one into the prescription drug trap so many pharmacuticals want you in and the government sadly allows, pushes and accepts because of its insane outdated agenda/policies.:(

My children will thank me for this. :clap:

[DDBooger]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom

Those drugs, Adderall, Lortab, etc. seem to be the "drug of choice" to the younger set around here and they are a HUGE problem. Adderall has more directional relation to Cocaine and other amphetamines than ********* (contrary to uninformed belief). Hell, you could find relation between energy drinks and amphetamines. ********* is not a gateway drug, most users of it never go into harder drugs, whereas users of harder drugs have tried *********. The relationship isn't bidirectional.

(funny that mary jane is censored but Cocaine isn't)

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by DDBooger
Adderall has more directional relation to Cocaine and other amphetamines than ********* (contrary to uninformed belief). Hell, you could find relation between energy drinks and amphetamines. ********* is not a gateway drug, most users of it never go into harder drugs, whereas users of harder drugs have tried *********. The relationship isn't bidirectional.

(funny that mary jane is censored but Cocaine isn't)

We have censored words on here???