Why Florida HS football is better than Texas

[Twirling Time]

Their schools are bigger as a whole and their classifications are more balanced from top to bottom.

Class 6A 82 schools 2,363-4,147
Class 5A 65 schools 2,015-2,362
Class 4A 70 schools 1,740-2,014
Class 3A 92 schools 1,391-1,739
Class 2A 39 schools 1,015-1,390
Class 2B 49 schools 522-1,014
Class 1A 53 schools 259-521
Class 1B 54 schools 48-258

So Denison, a 4A state semifinalist in Texas, would be only 2A in Florida? Wow.

I know Texas has bigger distances, small towns wanting to cling to identities, yada yada. But Florida is doing something right here.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
Their schools are bigger as a whole and their classifications are more balanced from top to bottom.

Class 6A 82 schools 2,363-4,147
Class 5A 65 schools 2,015-2,362
Class 4A 70 schools 1,740-2,014
Class 3A 92 schools 1,391-1,739
Class 2A 39 schools 1,015-1,390
Class 2B 49 schools 522-1,014
Class 1A 53 schools 259-521
Class 1B 54 schools 48-258

So Denison, a 4A state semifinalist in Texas, would be only 2A in Florida? Wow.

I know Texas has bigger distances, small towns wanting to cling to identities, yada yada. But Florida is doing something right here.

39 total schools in 2A? That's barely half of one of the regions in Texas 5A. Seems a little TOO watered down to me. Just my opinion though.

Are you sure those numbers are right in regards to the number of schools in each classification? Florida does have a smaller population than Texas but the numbers you posted only add up to 504 public schools which is less than half the number we have here.

Florida has a population of over 18 million while Texas is over 24 million. That doesn't add up.

[Twirling Time]

Originally posted by WOS87
39 total schools in 2A? That's barely half of one of the regions in Texas 5A. Seems a little TOO watered down to me. Just my opinion though.

Looks like they took 2-whatever and split it into 2A and 2B. Combine the two and it adds up to 88.

[Twirling Time]

This is where I got the numbers: http://www.fhsaa.org/assignments/fb.htm

[WOS87]

Hmmm... that's strange. Counting private schools Texas has close to 1200 high schools with football programs. Are there possibly a lot of Florida schools that don't have football programs?? Or are the Florida schools really all that much larger on average? Or are the number of retirees that live there more than I realized meaning the school-aged proportion of that 18 million would be a lot less compared to Texas?

[Twirling Time]

I think the Florida schools are just larger on average. More county school districts and therefore more consolidation of high schools.

[3afan]

so all that maens "Florida HS football is better than Texas"? uuuh, no ....... it may be better but thats not why

[SWMustang]

Originally posted by WOS87
Or are the number of retirees that live there more than I realized meaning the school-aged proportion of that 18 million would be a lot less compared to Texas?


There are a TON of retired Yankees there. I used to go to Tampa frequently and it took forever to do anything (drive shop, etc) due to all the old, Hoveround driving, oblivious retirees.

[PhiI C]

Then how come Florida doesn't recruit a lot more in the State of Florida than nationally. That compared that Coach Brown mainly recruits in Texas.

[NateDawg39]

So based on the fact that they have schools with different sets of numbers, they are better? That does not show anything at all. We need tons of more information. Athlete numbers, average graduation rate of those football athletes, number of players who go on to play on ANY level, how many playoff games do they play, are the schools worth a flip? Find some more info before stating something like that. Texas football is great but that is because I don't know anything about Florida except a lot of famous people send their kids to school there.

[LionKing]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
Their schools are bigger as a whole and their classifications are more balanced from top to bottom.

Class 6A 82 schools 2,363-4,147
Class 5A 65 schools 2,015-2,362
Class 4A 70 schools 1,740-2,014
Class 3A 92 schools 1,391-1,739
Class 2A 39 schools 1,015-1,390
Class 2B 49 schools 522-1,014
Class 1A 53 schools 259-521
Class 1B 54 schools 48-258

So Denison, a 4A state semifinalist in Texas, would be only 2A in Florida? Wow.

I know Texas has bigger distances, small towns wanting to cling to identities, yada yada. But Florida is doing something right here. The title of your thread should have been why ''Florida HS Football is more balanced than Texas HS Football'' not better.
1B thru 2B isn't a whole lot different than Texas, but 2A thru 6A is.

[Daddy D 11]

WOS87, Florida's population is primarily senior citizens. That has got to be skewing the numbers right?


Take out the citizens that do not have kids, and Florida drops to probably half of Texas' population and then that might equate to them having half the schools playing football? Heck IDK it's just a guess.

[NateDawg39]

According to fedstats.gov, the estimated population of persons 65 and older in Florida is 3,037,704. It is 16.8% of Florida's total population.

[Daddy D 11]

So that would put Florida's non-senior citizen population at 15 million.

Texas' population is 24. Idk I was just thinking of something real quick that might be it... it prolly isnt

[OLE'BULL]

This post isnt even worth entertaining. Why is there a Texas vs. the Nation high school game? That Texas usually wins. Correct me if I am wrong (which is always a possibility ;) but I dont believe there is a Florida vs. the Nation. I wouldnt come on the Downlow talking about how any state is better than Texas, just my opinion. Your just stirring the pot

[STANG RED]

Florida is what, maybe the size of one of the four regions Texas has? Not a good comparison if you ask me. Also, Texas has only about 125% of Florida's population, spread over about 4 times the area.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by OLE'BULL
This post isnt even worth entertaining. Why is there a Texas vs. the Nation high school game? That Texas usually wins. Correct me if I am wrong (which is always a possibility ;) but I dont believe there is a Florida vs. the Nation. I wouldnt come on the Downlow talking about how any state is better than Texas, just my opinion. Your just stirring the pot


He was not comparing talent, pay attention.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
He was not comparing talent, pay attention. yes he was

[Daddy D 11]

He clearly is not. Read his first post. He states that Florida HS football is better, as far as the way it is balanced and structured. No where in any of his posts is the word talent.

[Daddy D 11]

He says, "Florida is doing something right here".

I do not know about you, but to me that gave it away that he was not talking about talent. Also, him not mentioning talent helped me come to that assumption.

[Rocket]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
Their schools are bigger as a whole and their classifications are more balanced from top to bottom.

Class 6A 82 schools 2,363-4,147
Class 5A 65 schools 2,015-2,362
Class 4A 70 schools 1,740-2,014
Class 3A 92 schools 1,391-1,739
Class 2A 39 schools 1,015-1,390
Class 2B 49 schools 522-1,014
Class 1A 53 schools 259-521
Class 1B 54 schools 48-258

So Denison, a 4A state semifinalist in Texas, would be only 2A in Florida? Wow.

I know Texas has bigger distances, small towns wanting to cling to identities, yada yada. But Florida is doing something right here.

Dude. LOL Texas wins. Florida=wanna be

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
He clearly is not. Read his first post. He states that Florida HS football is better, as far as the way it is balanced and structured. No where in any of his posts is the word talent. I'm just going off the thread title which is "why Florida HS football is better than Texas". To me that sounds like all around ;)

[NastySlot]

so i wonder how florida counts home school kids that participate on public school teams.

[BullsFan]

NOTHING is better than Texas HS football!

[PhiI C]

I think one time in the early 60s Pennsylvania thought they were the best football state in the country. They had some all star games once against California that they won then I think three against all stars from other states and they won 2 with only a scoreless tie marring their record. In fact they had shutouts. Then they played and beat Texas in a close one with all our main players in the North vs South All Star Game. The next year Texas rescheduled their all star game and we had the best ones playing and we beat them for their first loss ever 27 to 10. We beat them again badly the next year and the following year they wanted to even the record but it was another one sided affair with Texas winning something like 32 ot 3. The game was then quietly dropped. :)

[XtremeCouture]

Fcs postseason is better than fbs postseason. Get it? Structure people

[OLE'BULL]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
He was not comparing talent, pay attention.

Easy there chief, I took it that way. Maybe I misunderstood but to me it seems as if he is implying that FLA talent is better as well, not just the system.

[bandera7]

To me, I would not prefer their system. Mostly because their numbers, you end up having teams with basically the same enrollment each getting a state championship. And geographically that would not work in Texas. Im also a fan of getting rid of the two championship per classification system too though.

[charlesrixey]

Originally posted by WOS87
Hmmm... that's strange. Counting private schools Texas has close to 1200 high schools with football programs. Are there possibly a lot of Florida schools that don't have football programs?? Or are the Florida schools really all that much larger on average? Or are the number of retirees that live there more than I realized meaning the school-aged proportion of that 18 million would be a lot less compared to Texas?

there are 1,236 high schools in california, which is less than texas if you count private schools

the difference for Florida and California is the school size-california schools are much bigger on average, and florida's is smaller than california but still larger than ours.

Obviously, this comes mainly from the fact that we have hundreds of very small schools all over west and central texas, which florida doesn't and california does only to a smaller degree.