BREAKING NEWS. Plane Crash

[44INAROW]

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Plane crashes into Northwest Austin office building
Thursday, February 18, 2010, 10:44 AM

Austin police say a plane has crashed into a building in the 9400 block or Research Boulevard.

Austin-Travis County EMS Assistant Director James Shamard said smoke is visible for at least a mile and that paramedics have set up a triage center at the scene. “We have no idea right now if there are any patients, or how many.”

EMS officials said it was a seven-story building and that two people were unaccounted for. A witness said it was the Echelon I building.

Tucker Thurman was driving to work on the U.S. 183 flyover near MoPac Boulevard (Loop 1) when he said he saw a small plane, very low, flying over the highway. He said he saw it then bank heavily to the right before heading into the building.

“There was a huge fireball. It right into the building,” Thurman said.

EMS officials said they have taken at least two patients to the hospital, but that there are several “walking wounded” at the scene.

Fire Chief Rhoda Mae Kerr said that the department has gone into a “defensive position,” meaning that firefighters have been ordered to retreat from the building because of the danger.

Fire department officials said EMS has begun taking people to University Medical Center Brackenridge.

Photo: Claudia Grisales/American-Statesman

Cayce Watkins, a server at the Marie Callender’s restaurant at 9503 Research Boulevard across 183 from where the plane crashed, said: “It rattled our windows.”

Watkins said employees heard the roar of the plane and then a boom.

“There was a loud boom, and our windows, our entire building shook,” said Darla LaTour, an operations manager at the Candlewood Suites Extended Stay Hotel, which is about a quarter-mile from the accident site. “When we got out there already sirens coming.”

Mischelle Diaz, a spokeswoman for St. Edward’s University, said the plane hit a building in the Echelon business complex next to a building where the university’s Professional Education Center provides software training and teaches some graduate students. She said the education center has been evacuated and that university officials were trying to confirm that students and instructors all got out safely.

“We’re just desperately trying to get some information,” Diaz said.

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[BEAST]

A plane crashed into a 7 story building in Austin, Tx today. The building is next door to the FBI field office. Dont know if it was an accident or terrorism




BEAST

[MUSTANG69]

FOX NEWS

Fox reporting that NTSB thinks crash is intentional. Pilot set his own house on fire. Don't know if this is true but FOX is reporting it.

[Pick6]

Originally posted by BEAST
A plane crashed into a 7 story building in Austin, Tx today. The building is next door to the FBI field office. Dont know if it was an accident or terrorism




BEAST

Story I read said it hit the IRS building.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by MUSTANG69
FOX NEWS

Fox reporting that NTSB thinks crash is intentional. Pilot set his own house on fire. Don't know if this is true but FOX is reporting it. did they say where the pilot was from? Austin area?

[Green Bling]

Ch 4 in SA just reported he burned his house in Georgetown and stole the plane in Bastrop.

[maroogreen]

Man, I hate stories like this. Even worse when they occur in our backyard. Prayers to those involved and to the firefighters and EMS.

[MUSTANG69]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
did they say where the pilot was from? Austin area?

Just heard pilot is from Georgetown. Also, they are saying he set his house on fire in an attempt to kill his wife and kids.

[nationalpastime]

That's terrible.

[kaorder1999]

he stole the plane? wow

[Green Bling]

Ch 5 just said the plane took off from the Georgetown airport, not the Bastop airport. On victim is currently being taken to Brooks for burn treatment. Ch 5 is steaming live picture online.

[MUSTANG69]

FOX now reporting that pilot may have had IRS problems. Supposedly there is an IRS office in the building.

[Green Bling]

Originally posted by MUSTANG69
FOX now reporting that pilot may have had IRS problems. Supposedly there is an IRS office in the building.
Ch 5 reports there are some IRS offices in that building.

[3afan]

da

[Green Bling]

Ch 5 reports the pilot's name as Joseph Stack.

[Green Bling]

Wife and 12 year old daughter were pulled alive from the pilot's burning house.

[BaseballUmp]

police chief saying the plane was not confirmed as a stolen aircraft at this point

[STANG RED]

Sure glad I read to the bottom of this thread. My brother in law is a pilot and lives in Georgetown. Thought he might have finally went off the deep end. He recently lost his job flying for DSL, and hasnt had much luck finding anything else.

[Green Bling]

Chief of police in Austin just said the plane was NOT stolen as was previously reported. He then repeated that.

[44INAROW]

we're going to be hearing alot about Mr Joseph Stack in the hours/days to come.. Thank God the wife and child are OK.

[LE Dad]

Wow!!

[MUSTANG69]

FOX now reporting that a manifesto authored by this guy has been found. He addresses the issues of Big Brother and the IRS.:confused:

[BullsFan]

Here's the manifesto:

http://mashable.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by MUSTANG69
FOX now reporting that a manifesto authored by this guy has been found. He addresses the issues of Big Brother and the IRS.:confused:

Not trying to excuse what this guy has done in any way, but I wouldnt be surprised to start seeing more and more of this sort of thing, as Big Brothers continues to get more envolved in all of our daily affairs. Push hard enough, and people will start to push back.

[BullsFan]

Sounds to me like he's been playing fast and loose with his tax returns for years. Decade, even.

[Green Bling]

Originally posted by BullsFan
Here's the manifesto:

http://mashable.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
Oh, my!!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by BullsFan
Here's the manifesto:

http://mashable.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

I'm not in any way condoning what he did, but he brought up some really good points in there, IMO!!!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Ranger Mom
I'm not in any way condoning what he did, but he brought up some really good points in there, IMO!!!

LOL i thought the same thing as i read it

[Daddy D 11]

I grew up 10 minutes from the airport and my mom was in Austin, 5 minutes from the crash when it happened:eek:

[sectionCwannabe]

Originally posted by BullsFan
Here's the manifesto:

http://mashable.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
This website has been taken offline due to the sensitive nature of the events that transpired in Texas this morning.

Regards,
T35 Hosting
anyone enlighten us on what it said...

[Green Bling]

This may be really pragmatic, but what about all those tax returns that burned in the fire? One news report said that this building is where all tax returns are sent.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Green Bling
This may be really pragmatic, but what about all those tax returns that burned in the fire? One news report said that this building is where all tax returns are sent.

This dude was a smart little psycho... lol

[BullsFan]

You don't get creative with your tax return to get away with not paying taxes, and the idea that he and his cronies would get away with claiming whatever exemptions the "corrupt and evil" Catholic church was getting away with was pure foolishness. Not to mention his efforts to get away with not paying taxes in all the years following. Some people try and probably do, but for most people the IRS is going to catch up with you at some point.

But irregardless of all that, he lost all credit with me when he decided the way to strike a blow for freedom and America and the common man was to murder innocent people, including his own wife and son.

And yes, Austin is a site to mail in most returns when you are owed a refund. The zip for that office is 73301-0002. Does anyone know the exact zip of the building he hit?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by BullsFan
You don't get creative with your tax return to get away with not paying taxes, and the idea that he and his cronies would get away with claiming whatever exemptions the "corrupt and evil" Catholic church was getting away with was pure foolishness. Not to mention his efforts to get away with not paying taxes in all the years following. Some people try and probably do, but for most people the IRS is going to catch up with you at some point.

But irregardless of all that, he lost all credit with me when he decided the way to strike a blow for freedom and America and the common man was to murder innocent people, including his own wife and son.


Snapping is one thing, but trying to kill your family? COME ON!

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by sectionCwannabe
This website has been taken offline due to the sensitive nature of the events that transpired in Texas this morning.

Regards,
T35 Hosting
anyone enlighten us on what it said...

It is still coming up for me.

When I first read this, I still had it open, so I printed it out.

[XtremeCouture]

I really don't think this guy was a psycho. He was totally in control of himself. I read his manifesto just a minute ago. He's basically right that the government screws over the middle-class and caters to big business. It's not something to fly a plane into building over, though.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by XtremeCouture
I really don't think this guy was a psycho. He was totally in control of himself. I read his manifesto just a minute ago. He's basically right that the government screws over the middle-class and caters to big business. It's not something to fly a plane into building over, though.

Exactly! I agree with a lot of what he said, but I don't agree with how he felt he had to make his statement.

[Phantom Stang]

Here's the manifesto in text form. It's very long, so it might take a few posts to get it all on here.



**********************************

If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer… and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL – Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. – This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. – The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

* “another person” is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.
* “taxpayer” is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.
* “individual”, “employee”, or “worker” is you.

Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a **** about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a flip about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

To be continued......

[SWMustang]

Originally posted by XtremeCouture
I really don't think this guy was a psycho. He was totally in control of himself. I read his manifesto just a minute ago. He's basically right that the government screws over the middle-class and caters to big business. It's not something to fly a plane into building over, though.

how do you fight the government, then?

[Phantom Stang]

Joe Stack's manifesto Part II




***********************************
So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy screw up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of **** at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010

LINK (http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/joe-stack-1956-2010-the-end-in-austin-tx/)

[XtremeCouture]

Originally posted by SWMustang
how do you fight the government, then?
I don't know. I think uniting the state militias and marching to Washington D.C. would be a good start.

[BreckTxLonghorn]

I'm okay. Thanks for asking.

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
I'm okay. Thanks for asking.

Did you not get my text messages?:thinking: :D

[SWMustang]

Originally posted by BreckTxLonghorn
I'm okay. Thanks for asking.

I know you won't believe this, but I did wonder if BreckTx was OK. Then I got hungry and made a sammich :D

[BaseballUmp]

yea had to text my gf's mom to see if she was alright because she works in the DPS crime lab and wasnt sure how close that was to the crash

[BEAST]

I must say, I do not agree with his actions, and alot of his problems he brought on himself and blamed others for his failures. But, with that said, alot of what he said has some truth.




BEAST

[Eagle 1]

Originally posted by Green Bling
This may be really pragmatic, but what about all those tax returns that burned in the fire? One news report said that this building is where all tax returns are sent.
Imagine that.
I just had went online this morning to find out about my tax return and it says it is due to be deposited in my account tomorrow. I guess we will see what happens now.:rolleyes:

[carter08]

If you have that many problems with the government, leave the country. Don't fly a plane into a building.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by Eagle 1
Imagine that.
I just had went online this morning to find out about my tax return and it says it is due to be deposited in my account tomorrow. I guess we will see what happens now.:rolleyes:

Ohh....I didn't think about that. My son's is due to be deposited tomorrow too!!!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Green Bling
This may be really pragmatic, but what about all those tax returns that burned in the fire? One news report said that this building is where all tax returns are sent.
From what I understand, that building is where the IRS investigators work. Now that I think about it, I have/had a neighbor that used to (or may still!) work for the IRS as an investigator.


Originally posted by BullsFan
And yes, Austin is a site to mail in most returns when you are owed a refund. The zip for that office is 73301-0002. Does anyone know the exact zip of the building he hit?
I'm pretty sure the zip code is 78759 - I used to work about 1/2 mile from there. I think 73301 is a "made up" zc specifically for Govt stuff. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by BaseballUmp
yea had to text my gf's mom to see if she was alright because she works in the DPS crime lab and wasnt sure how close that was to the crash

I texted my ex wife as soon as I heard about it.. damn it, she text me right back saying she was on the other side of Austin

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
I texted my ex wife as soon as I heard about it.. damn it, she text me right back saying she was on the other side of Austin

I really hope you aren't referring to your hot ex-wife that me and gp77 met at BWW. :mad:

And if you were this was funny. But, it still pisses me off. :D

[piratebg]

I got a call from my mother earlier. She works at the IBC Bank on the other side of MOPAC and it scared the crap out of her. She said the security guard watched the plane circle the building a couple of times until it hit. It came very close to her building. She's gonna take tomorrow off.

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
I really hope you aren't referring to your hot ex-wife that me and gp77 met at BWW. :mad:

And if you were this was funny. But, it still pisses me off. :D


Yep, thats the one. She was still a good sport about it. She said there was also a grass fire under I-35 in Austin today.. Not a great day to live in Austin

[Ranger Mom]

I just read that the wife and daughter stayed at a hotel last night because of an argument with the husband, and came home to find the house on fire.

I hope that is true and he didn't set fire to the house with them in it.

Also just read that 2 bodies have been discovered, presumably one is his and the other the coworker that wasn't accounted for.

[BullsFan]

Originally posted by Eagle 1
Imagine that.
I just had went online this morning to find out about my tax return and it says it is due to be deposited in my account tomorrow. I guess we will see what happens now.:rolleyes:

Direct deposits come from the US Treasury, not from an IRS office. You shouldn't have any problems. Unless, like me, the IRS decides to hold your return 5 days extra. (Talked to one of my coworkers today. She was supposed to get her return tomorrow, and she got it last Thursday. I really didn't think that ever happened.)

Our concern was that some of the actual paper returns that were mailed in may be lost. Thus far we've had to mail in every tax return that had the First Time Homebuyer's Credit on it, and we've had quite a few of those. I've also done a ton of amended returns that had to be mailed in. I'm going to assume that LHPM is right and it's an investigator's office and not an actual IRS center, mainly just because that doesn't make my head hurt so much.

[turbostud]

Mine got deposited this morning.

[Ranger Mom]

Originally posted by turbostud
Mine got deposited this morning.

So did my son's!

[Eagle 1]

Mine did last night....thank goodness.

[BullsFan]

His daughter says he's a "hero". The son of the man he killed disagrees.

I side with the son.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/022210dntexpilotdaughter.e7bb29.html