Rule Change for 2011

[YTBulldogs]

The NCAA News

The NCAA Football Rules Committee endorsed a proposal Wednesday that penalizes unsportsmanlike conduct as a live-ball foul beginning in the 2011 season.

The change would mean, for example, that if a player makes a taunting gesture to an opponent on the way to scoring a touchdown, the flag would nullify the score and penalize the offending team from the spot of the foul.

Penalties for dead-ball misconduct fouls (for example, unsportsmanlike behavior after the player crosses the goal line) would continue to be assessed on the ensuing kickoff or the extra point/two point conversion attempt.

The proposal to penalize unsportsmanlike acts as live-ball fouls received near-majority support in the committee’s annual rules survey and during discussions at the American Football Coaches Association convention in January.

“Our committee firmly believes in the team concept of college football,” said Mike Bellotti, chair of the committee and athletics director at Oregon. “Taunting and prolonged individual acts have no place in our game, and our officials have generally handled these rules well. This is just another step in maintaining our game’s image and reflecting the ideals of the NCAA overall.”

The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel must approve the proposed change before it can be implemented for the 2011 season.

[Phil C]

Big Mess coming.

[NateDawg39]

Yeah a very big mess....:doh:

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Yeah a very big mess....:doh:

Why ya say this Nate? You like them show boaters?

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by YTBulldogs
Why ya say this Nate? You like them show boaters? All I will say is that some official is going to make a bad call and cost a team the game with this penalty.

[GreenMonster]

It doesn't really change anything except how the penalty is enforced. I'm all for this rule. If you taunt another team's player prior to crossing the goal line then you should be penalized as if you had never crossed. If it's after you cross then the score should count and be penalized accordingly. Good rule change in my opinion.

[NateDawg39]

Wait I may have misunderstood the rule.

It is saying that if you taunt the player BEFORE you cross the line, then you are penalized correct?

I read it as if you taunt after the TD, then you are given a penalty in the same regard....

[bobcat4life]

I really dont like it...

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
All I will say is that some official is going to make a bad call and cost a team the game with this penalty.

Coaches must want this showboating stopped, by changing this enforcement. I agree with one part of your statement Nate---it will cost a team a game at some point.

[carter08]

Let the kids have some fun! Geez!

[YTBulldogs]

Example:

Running back breaks a 80 yard run.

At the 10, going toward goal line---taunts the defender, fans, etc-- then scores.

Use to be a TD, enforce the unsportsmanlike on the extra point, or kickoff.

Now, you enforce from spot of foul. In the above example, mark 15 yards off from the 10 to the 25.

[SintonPirateFan]

bad thing about this rule is it is up to the officials to decide what constitutes "taunting".

was it LSU/Georgia this past year where both teams got taunting penalties after touchdowns and neither was really taunting?

this is just going to give officials even more say in the final score.

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by carter08
Let the kids have some fun! Geez!

Guess the coaches (they make the rules, not officials) don't want them to have fun at someone's expense. It's a team sport they feel I guess.

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by SintonPirateFan
bad thing about this rule is it is up to the officials to decide what constitutes "taunting".

was it LSU/Georgia this past year where both teams got taunting penalties after touchdowns and neither was really taunting?

this is just going to give officials even more say in the final score.

Wrong. The rule book does this.

[BIG MO]

i feel that this is a good rule, they should also throw a flag everytime someone celebrates a first down or a tackle, it shouild be 15 yards

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by BIG MO
i feel that this is a good rule, they should also throw a flag everytime someone celebrates a first down or a tackle, it shouild be 15 yards What is wrong with cheering on your team after a big play?

[BIG MO]

fans cheering ok, players keep keep playing not celebrating one play and mess up next, then hols heads down

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by SintonPirateFan
bad thing about this rule is it is up to the officials to decide what constitutes "taunting".

was it LSU/Georgia this past year where both teams got taunting penalties after touchdowns and neither was really taunting?

this is just going to give officials even more say in the final score.

Don't recall this game SPF, but---maybe they did something like this?

SECTION 2. Unsportsmanlike Conduct Fouls
Unsportsmanlike Acts
ARTICLE 1. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct or any act
that interferes with orderly game administration on the part of players,
substitutes, coaches, authorized attendants or any other persons subject to
the rules, before the game, during the game or between periods.
a. Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:
1. No player, substitute, coach or other person subject to the rules shall
use abusive, threatening or obscene language or gestures, or engage
in such acts that provoke ill will or are demeaning to an opponent, to
game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited
to:
(a) Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent, or
imitating the slashing of the throat.
(b) Taunting, baiting or ridiculing an opponent verbally.
(c) Inciting an opponent or spectators in any other way, such as
simulating the firing of a weapon or placing a hand by the ear to
request recognition.
(d) Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by
which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon
himself (or themselves).
(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he
approaches the opponent’s goal line or diving into the end zone.
(f) Removal of a player’s helmet before he is in the team area
(Exceptions: Team, media or injury timeouts; equipment
adjustment; through play; between periods; and during a
measurement for a first down).
(g) Punching one’s own chest or crossing one’s arms in front of the
chest while standing over a prone player.
(h) Going into the stands to interact with spectators, or bowing at the
waist after a good play.
If committed while the ball is alive, these fouls are treated as dead-ball
fouls.
2. After a score or any other play, the player in possession immediately
must return the ball to an official or leave it near the dead-ball spot.
This prohibits:
(a) Kicking, throwing, spinning or carrying (including off of the
field) the ball any distance that requires an official to retrieve it.
(b) Spiking the ball to the ground [Exception: A forward pass to
conserve time (Rule 7-3-2-d)].
(c) Throwing the ball high into the air.
(d) Any other unsportsmanlike act or actions that delay the game.

[GreenMonster]

Originally posted by YTBulldogs
Don't recall this game SPF, but---maybe they did something like this?

SECTION 2. Unsportsmanlike Conduct Fouls
Unsportsmanlike Acts
ARTICLE 1. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct or any act
that interferes with orderly game administration on the part of players,
substitutes, coaches, authorized attendants or any other persons subject to
the rules, before the game, during the game or between periods.
a. Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:
1. No player, substitute, coach or other person subject to the rules shall
use abusive, threatening or obscene language or gestures, or engage
in such acts that provoke ill will or are demeaning to an opponent, to
game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited
to:
(a) Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent, or
imitating the slashing of the throat.
(b) Taunting, baiting or ridiculing an opponent verbally.
(c) Inciting an opponent or spectators in any other way, such as
simulating the firing of a weapon or placing a hand by the ear to
request recognition.
(d) Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by
which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon
himself (or themselves).
(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he
approaches the opponent’s goal line or diving into the end zone.
(f) Removal of a player’s helmet before he is in the team area
(Exceptions: Team, media or injury timeouts; equipment
adjustment; through play; between periods; and during a
measurement for a first down).
(g) Punching one’s own chest or crossing one’s arms in front of the
chest while standing over a prone player.
(h) Going into the stands to interact with spectators, or bowing at the
waist after a good play.
If committed while the ball is alive, these fouls are treated as dead-ball
fouls.
2. After a score or any other play, the player in possession immediately
must return the ball to an official or leave it near the dead-ball spot.
This prohibits:
(a) Kicking, throwing, spinning or carrying (including off of the
field) the ball any distance that requires an official to retrieve it.
(b) Spiking the ball to the ground [Exception: A forward pass to
conserve time (Rule 7-3-2-d)].
(c) Throwing the ball high into the air.
(d) Any other unsportsmanlike act or actions that delay the game.

I think it was more like the classic "oops, too late I already threw the flag." followed by a make-up call. SEC officials had a really bad year.

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by BIG MO
fans cheering ok, players keep keep playing not celebrating one play and mess up next, then hols heads down

This is extreme Mo. Team celebrating, by cheering is good for the game. Player who singles himself out, and does those actions the coaches put in the rule book is not allowed.

Those who say, let them play---how do you think that kid that got a finger pointed in his face, and told "who's your daddy" on that 80 yard TD run feels?

Heck, like the coaches say to their players. When you score, act like you been there before and have some class. Celebrate with your linemen, they created that hole for you anyways.

[YTBulldogs]

Originally posted by GreenMonster
I think it was more like the classic "oops, too late I already threw the flag." followed by a make-up call. SEC officials had a really bad year.

Got that right on the SEC officials.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by BIG MO
fans cheering ok, players keep keep playing not celebrating one play and mess up next, then hols heads down Did you grow up outside of Texas?:confused:

[JasperDog94]

This will just give SEC officials more chances to screw up calls in big games.

[Old Tiger]

Originally posted by BIG MO
fans cheering ok, players keep keep playing not celebrating one play and mess up next, then hols heads down Just shut up.



Stupid rule...the end.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by YTBulldogs

Those who say, let them play---how do you think that kid that got a finger pointed in his face, and told "who's your daddy" on that 80 yard TD run feels?



They should stop them if they dont want that done to them

[LH Panther Mom]

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9982/6a00d8341d0f2453ef0120a.jpg

:devil: :devil:

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9982/6a00d8341d0f2453ef0120a.jpg

:devil: :devil: Oh thats classic lol

[coach]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
All I will say is that some official is going to make a bad call and cost a team the game with this penalty.

hell they do that anyway

[maroogreen]

Originally posted by YTBulldogs

Heck, like the coaches say to their players. When you score, act like you been there before ...

I was just thinking the same thing. You should always act like the end zone is where you live, not like an exotic foreign land you never thought you'd visit.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by maroogreen
I was just thinking the same thing. You should always act like the end zone is where you live, not like an exotic foreign land you never thought you'd visit. For some teams it is a foreign land though