Dal VS MINN

[eagleqb_14]

this is going to be a great game.

[TexMike]

Keep Flozell under 30 yards in penalties and Cowboys have a great chance

[bobcat4life]

Boys win it 24-16

[coach]

if dallas controls the vikings 4 dlinemen and ad doesnt have a big game then dallas wins.....i dont see it happening,,,,hopefully im dead wrong

[eagleqb_14]

Originally posted by TexMike
Keep Flozell under 30 yards in penalties and Cowboys have a great chance and make sure tony doesn't throw any pics

[bobcat4life]

Just saw Keith Brooking get the 'Boys going. Its gonna be a good day-everytime I see that on TV the Cowboys win

[bobcat4life]

The Dallas O-line is playing great so far-no pressure on Romo so far

[coach]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
The Dallas O-line is playing great so far-no pressure on Romo so far

wow way to come out and jinx them

[TexMike]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
The Dallas O-line is playing great so far-no pressure on Romo so far

JINX!

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by eagleqb_14
and make sure tony doesn't throw any pics



OR fumble the ball!!!!!

[99IHSMustang]

I haven't seen Adrian Peterson play very much. Excited to see what he can do.

[Farmersfan]

Great 3 and out for the Defense!

[coach]

i would rather have seen the vikings get that first down than have ware get the sack and not come back te rest of the game....it looks like he will be ok though

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by TexMike
JINX! why does this always happen when I make an honest observation?

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
OR fumble the ball!!!!!

and look who has come out of his fox hole....we havent seen you in a while...i guess you just sit around and wait for romo to mess up.....you must have a sucky life

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by coach
i would rather have seen the vikings get that first down than have ware get the sack and not come back te rest of the game....it looks like he will be ok though he'll be back

[coach]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
why does this always happen when I make an honest observation?


just the way life is lol

[Farmersfan]

Felix Jones is da' man!!!

[coach]

i hate to complain but that side judge on the faar side of the field is givin dallas some terrible spots....i thought he gave a bad spot on second down to make it 3rd and inches instead of a first down and i thought felix got a couple more yards than he did on that swing pass

[bobcat4life]

if Dallas avoids the fumbles they are whipping Minnesota

[coach]

way to go witten....

[Txbroadcaster]

Should have gone for it

[coach]

i bet they would have if they didnt have struggles earlier in the year

[NateDawg39]

Peterson runs hard but hard to knock a wall down lol

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
and look who has come out of his fox hole....we havent seen you in a while...i guess you just sit around and wait for romo to mess up.....you must have a sucky life



It could be worst Coach! I could sit around with a "holier than thou" attitude and judge other people!!!!!

And FYI! The game has JUST started and Romo has already made 2 big mistakes.

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Peterson runs hard but hard to knock a wall down lol

and he is a Texas boy.

[Txbroadcaster]

Wow Sensabaugh never even saw the ball

[bobcat4life]

uh oh.....

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Wow Sensabaugh never even saw the ball

Yeah that is what it looked like. He didn't even know the Vikings receiver had caught it. It was a good pass though because he was covered pretty well.

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
It could be worst Coach! I could sit around with a "holier than thou" attitude and judge other people!!!!!

And FYI! The game has JUST started and Romo has already made 2 big mistakes.

well hell we havent heard you in 3 weeks and the second he does something wrong rou come out and critize....why dont you go to a viking forum and post on there

[TheDOCTORdre]

well thats not what I wanted to see as soon as I turned the game on:(

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
It could be worst Coach! I could sit around with a "holier than thou" attitude and judge other people!!!!!

And FYI! The game has JUST started and Romo has already made 2 big mistakes.

2 mistakes? First off the fumble I would not even call his mistake..good play by Edwards to sack him...The bad exchange was just that a bad exchange

[coach]

wow flozelll just got away with a huge hold

[NateDawg39]

At least Barber is back and healthy

[Txbroadcaster]

Romo throwing the ball well with pressure..Oline is BARELY keeping Romo clean at the moment

[bobcat4life]

where is Jared Allan

[coach]

solid first qrt...there were 2 bad breaks...the line is going to have to protect a little better and we cant have another breakdown in the secondary again

[coach]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
where is Jared Allan

i bet he gets a sack the next play

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
well hell we havent heard you in 3 weeks and the second he does something wrong rou come out and critize....why dont you go to a viking forum and post on there



Get a grip Coach. I was posting on this forum just 2 days ago. And I didn't criticise anyone. I simple made an observation just like eveyone else did. But if you don't like what I post then perhaps you should make use of the little X in the corner. Give it try!

[eagleqb_14]

Originally posted by coach
and look who has come out of his fox hole....we havent seen you in a while...i guess you just sit around and wait for romo to mess up.....you must have a sucky life yea you do know he hasn't fumbled for 9 games thats pretty good!

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Get a grip Coach. I was posting on this forum just 2 days ago. And I didn't criticise anyone. I simple made an observation just like eveyone else did. But if you don't like what I post then perhaps you should make use of the little X in the corner. Give it try!

i dont see you give an "observation" when tony makes a good play

[Farmersfan]

So far it's a very nice response to the Minnesota score by the Cowboys...

[bobcat4life]

if I couldnt see the score I would think Dallas is up by 2 touchdowns.

[coach]

great job by columbo

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
i dont see you give an "observation" when tony makes a good play


Tony is paid MILLIONS & MILLIONS to make good plays! This isn't a high school game!

[99IHSMustang]

You have to admit though that Min is tightening up in the red zone and keeping them to 3 point tries.

[NateDawg39]

good kick! Now the O line just needs to get a little bit more protection

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by 99IHSMustang
You have to admit though that Min is tightening up in the red zone and keeping them to 3 point tries.

exactly so Dallasis gonna have to try and get points from outside of the redzone

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Tony is paid MILLIONS & MILLIONS to make good plays! This isn't a high school game!


LOL so therefore all that should be spotlighted are his bad plays?

[bobcat4life]

if Flozel is hurt, Dallas is in trouble

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
if Flozel is hurt, Dallas is in trouble


I dont know...Free played very well..in fact if Flozell can come back in I dont know if you dont put Free in for Colombo who is STRUGGLING with Edwards

[Txbroadcaster]

Minny is moving at will on the D at the moment

[Txbroadcaster]

Making the D look foolish actually

[bobcat4life]

Minnesota went down the field with almost no trouble on that drive

[99IHSMustang]

Even though Dallas is getting pressure on Brett Favre, he is doing a good job of keeping his composure and making plays. Vikings running attack is really opening it up for their passing. Peterson is running hard and playing well.

[coach]

dallas is in trouble....they cant put points on the bored and cant stop min....

[coach]

now thats just freakin stupid

[Txbroadcaster]

Wow stupid play IMO on the KO..lucky it did not kill them..and the 15 yard penalty helps

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Wow stupid play IMO on the KO..lucky it did not kill them..and the 15 yard penalty helps

or if he would have dropped it. I am sure Min would have came out with it. Too many purple jerseys around him.

[bobcat4life]

Dallas has started nearly every drive inside their own 20

[coach]

Originally posted by 99IHSMustang
or if he would have dropped it. I am sure Min would have came out with it. Too many purple jerseys around him.

thats why kevin ogletree was out there and not roy williams

[Txbroadcaster]

Let me guess...Farmer will blame Romo for that one

[coach]

if that was tom brady then that would have een a pass

[Farmersfan]

It's pretty obvious which team came in ready to play.

[bobcat4life]

dangit Dougie!

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
exactly so Dallasis gonna have to try and get points from outside of the redzone
Points period would be nice. :p

[Txbroadcaster]

Need to hold them to just a FG here

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Let me guess...Farmer will blame Romo for that one


Two bad blocking plays by Witten in a row. How long will it take Wade to realize he will have to block Allen with someone OTHER than a tightend?????

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Two bad blocking plays by Witten in a row. How long will it take Wade to realize he will have to block Allen with someone OTHER than a tightend?????

That was actually a good D-Line slant by Minny...They forced Free to the inside isolating Witten on Allen. Sometimes other teams do things well that hurt, it is not always the team your rooting for doing something bad.


GREAT stand by the D, lets see if they can feed off of it

[bobcat4life]

where is Flozel when you need him?

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Two bad blocking plays by Witten in a row. How long will it take Wade to realize he will have to block Allen with someone OTHER than a tightend????? Witten can block, but Allen is more than a handful

[99IHSMustang]

Dallas needs to get down the field and score if they want to stay in this game because Min is going to get the ball back after the half.

[NateDawg39]

I think it is clear the delayed hand off is not working

[coach]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
I think it is clear the delayed hand off is not working

i think everyone knows that except jason

[Txbroadcaster]

Offense not helping Romo..Austin drops a 1st down

[bobcat4life]

Red Jesus and Captain Kangaroo need find a way to get the team going

[TheDOCTORdre]

your center has got to be smart enough to snap it in a situation like that

[sinton66]

Dallas' O line is getting whipped in the trenches.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
your center has got to be smart enough to snap it in a situation like that

Gurode was looking in between his legs at Romo, bad timing cause he never saw it

[Txbroadcaster]

WOW..D has a chance to giove Dallas the ball back and cant

[Matthew328]

I just get the feeling this game is over...Minnesota on D just looks better

[coach]

if dallas wants any chance in this game the d must force a turnover in the second half

[ziggy29]

What a dumb decision that was by the Vikings to pass instead of running out the clock. Ye gods, that was bad.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I just get the feeling this game is over...Minnesota on D just looks better

Nah, not yet. Halftime adjustments still to come. It may get better and it may get worse, we'll just have to wait to see.

[bobcat4life]

Dallas is playing as bad as a team could play in this quarter

[coach]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I just get the feeling this game is over...Minnesota on D just looks better

im with you on this one

[NateDawg39]

Hey its only a 14 point game at the half. And we have seen adjustments from the Boys before, so im still thinking they are still in this game :clap:

[coach]

the o line has single handedly taken dallas out of this one

[Txbroadcaster]

romo is getting killed ever dropback..and still has a QB rating of 91 and 71% completition.

If they give him time They can pick the Vikes apart.

[pirate4state]

Originally posted by Matthew328
I just get the feeling this game is over...Minnesota on D just looks better me too, but I went into the game expecting to lose. i was hoping they would compete a little better than this.

hopefully, the D can come out and get in Favre's face and cause some havoc.

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by coach
im with you on this one me too

[NateDawg39]

Everyone needs a little faith :doh:

[Txbroadcaster]

All those that gripe about Flozell....ur seeing his worth..when he was in there, Romo had SOME time( Colombo was getting beat on the right side) Now that Adams is out, O-line cant protect both sides now

[Bullaholic]

Cowboys getting physically manhandled up front. If this is not checked---it's over. Still think the 'Boys have some comeback left---enough to win. Go Cowboys!

[coach]

whats so frustrating but at the same time remarkable is that minnesota is doing this with just their 4 linemen

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by coach
whats so frustrating but at the same time remarkable is that minnesota is doing this with just their 4 linemen


Wht is even more frustrating..Dallas has WR running open

[carter08]

I just woke up. Nice surprise when I turned the tv on.

Hey, Go Vikings.

[Txbroadcaster]

Great start for the D..now come on Oline

[ziggy29]

Vikes seem determined to let the Cowboys back into it with penalties. Dallas got a break on the no-call when Harvin was held, too.

[bobcat4life]

Scandrick got away with one there

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
Scandrick got away with one there

Yeah he sure did. Cowboys got a break.

[bobcat4life]

good job on the ground so far

[ziggy29]

Still can't stop the Minny pass rush. Romo needs combat pay every time he drops back.

[Txbroadcaster]

Should be 17-9

[Matthew328]

man the kicker sucks

[coach]

dumb play call by jason garrett to absolutely kill the drive....why run a damn sweep with marion barber?

[ziggy29]

I thought the Cowboys cut Folk. Doesn't look like it...

[99IHSMustang]

Dallas FG kicker blows.... It could very well be 9 to 17... 1 TD difference.

[Matthew328]

we cut Folk for this guy?? nice

[coach]

im still steamed that felix is running all over the defense but yet only gets 8 carries

[Txbroadcaster]

difference in game..Dallas D cant make the big tackle for a loss...Minny has been able to

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Matthew328
man the kicker sucks
I haven't seen one Dallas player today that looks much better. :doh: :(

[bobcat4life]

Rice nearly got a leg amputated

[coach]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
I haven't seen one Dallas player today that looks much better. :doh: :(

hey their kicker has had 2 touchbacks today you got to give him some credit

[carter08]

Originally posted by Matthew328
man the kicker sucks

Now you guys know exactly how Texans fans feel.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by coach
dumb play call by jason garrett to absolutely kill the drive....why run a damn sweep with marion barber?

Agreed, the running game is working and making good yardage. Then he calls an outside screen. Opponents have caught onto that stuff, Garrett. Stick with what's working until they stop it.

[coach]

no we dont bc we know what playoffs and super bowls feel like

[coach]

Originally posted by sinton66
Agreed, the running game is working and making good yardage. Then he calls an outside screen. Opponents have caught onto that stuff, Garrett. Stick with what's working until they stop it.

i wouldnt have mind it if they would have ran that with felix bc i think he would have hadthe speed to out run the defender

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by carter08
Now you guys know exactly how Texans fans feel. our situation was worse this season

[Txbroadcaster]

They keep talking about Allen and Edwards getting the pressure..but it is the inside pressure keeping Romo from being able to step up and stay alive...Dallas D has not got that inside pressure and it has allowed Farve to step up and still throw

[Txbroadcaster]

Why did they decline that? They got great field position..Punt it again

[sinton66]

Okay D, time to create a turnover.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Why did they decline that? They got great field position..Punt it again
my thoughts exactly

[Txbroadcaster]

Ok now they are going to repunt

[ziggy29]

Originally posted by carter08
Now you guys know exactly how Texans fans feel.
Not really. The Cowboys didn't get eliminated from the playoffs because the Colts and Bengals decided not to show up against the Jets.

[bobcat4life]

this is over if the cowboys dont get a turnover here

[TheDOCTORdre]

wat is joe buck talking about why do the vkings choose on that penalty?

[carter08]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
our situation was worse this season

No. It wasn't. We would have been playing the Colts yesterday if our kicker had just made one or two more kicks this year. You guys made the playoffs and then just got shut down by the Vikings.

[ziggy29]

Why do these announcers keep saying that the penalty on the punt was against the Cowboys and that the Vikes declined it??

[Farmersfan]

Aikman and Buck don't have a clue. They have been talking about the Vikes declining the penalty on the punt for at least 5 minutes. The penalty was on the Vikings...

[sinton66]

Originally posted by sinton66
Okay D, time to create a turnover.

Well, I ALMOST called it.;)

[Farmersfan]

I feel like the momentum is just about to change. A quick score for Dallas and we are right back in this game.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Aikman and Buck don't have a clue. They have been talking about the Vikes declining the penalty on the punt for at least 5 minutes. The penalty was on the Vikings...

That was on Buck..Aikman never said a word lol. Troy was prob writing it down he was wrong

[Txbroadcaster]

THAT was bad bad decision

[coach]

what the hell was that romo

[bobcat4life]

its over...

[ziggy29]

What on earth was THAT, Tony??

[99IHSMustang]

Did Romo just throw the ball directly to the vikings defender. :eek:

[Txbroadcaster]

That is what happens when a QB has to run for his life..timing is killed and things get rushed

[ziggy29]

I'd be surprised if the Vikes pass here. They are in easy FG range to make it a 3-score game; can't see them taking many chances.

[sinton66]

Good grief! How much can you expect even a GOOD defense to do? O line is killing us with lack of pass protection.

[coach]

that was a piss poor decsion on romo and ill put the blame on him but ...im tired of seeing garret running misdirections and draws on 2nd a 5 then getting them in a 3rd and long...and btw....where is the wr screen that dallas ran to perfection last week?

[JJWalker]

I imagine this is not going to be a popular opinion.

But those two early fumbles by Romo ... really setup this result.

It let Minn get enough of a lead that their defense was able to unload on Romo.

However the Dallas "D" played well enough for the Cowboys to win.

Unfortunately that Tony Romo we all hold our breath over, showed up.

[99IHSMustang]

The vikings are having a field day with Romo.

[ziggy29]

I know the Vikes have a good D-line, but man, the Cowboys O-line is getting tossed around like rag dolls.

[coach]

i would like to see how peyton manning would play with this oline

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by JJWalker
I imagine this is not going to be a popular opinion.

But those two early fumbles by Romo ... really setup this result.

It let Minn get enough of a lead that their defense was able to unload on Romo.

However the Dallas "D" played well enough for the Cowboys to win.

Unfortunately that Tony Romo we all hold our breath over, showed up.

The on fumble led to a FG..the other fumble was on a 3rd down and he was getting sacked anyway. And the Vikes did not score on that one

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by coach
i would like to see how peyton manning would play with this oline

He would have maybe had 1 sack. He gets rid of the ball so quickly that even if the pass offense broke down he gets rid of the ball.

[coach]

Originally posted by 99IHSMustang
He would have maybe had 1 sack. He gets rid of the ball so quickly that even if the pass offense broke down he gets rid of the ball.

romo has a quicker release than peyton...trust me peryton would hae more than one sack today....

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by JJWalker
However the Dallas "D" played well enough for the Cowboys to win.

:confused: Do you have the tv on?

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by coach
romo has a quicker release than peyton...trust me peryton would hae more than one sack today....

I beg to differ. At any rate I can assure you he wouldn't have the same game stats as Romo. Not even close.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by JJWalker
I imagine this is not going to be a popular opinion.

But those two early fumbles by Romo ... really setup this result.

It let Minn get enough of a lead that their defense was able to unload on Romo.

However the Dallas "D" played well enough for the Cowboys to win.

Unfortunately that Tony Romo we all hold our breath over, showed up.

Fumbles are inevitable if your O line can't protect the QB. That's not on Romo.

[ziggy29]

Turn out the lights, the party's over...

[Txbroadcaster]

Great season for the Cowboys..they need to get some depth at O-line..a kicker..another WR threat and some playmaking safties.

They will be back next year

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by ziggy29
Turn out the lights, the party's over...

The party is on at my house, The Cowboys have now drove me to drinking today!

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Great season for the Cowboys..they need to get some depth at O-line..a kicker..another WR threat and some playmaking safties.

They will be back next year

Even with his penalties, Flozell out of the game hurt, no doubt.

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
:confused: Do you have the tv on? the cowboys defense played Well. the Vikings just had too many chances because of the turnovers and the way the Cowboys offenisve line played.


did anyone expect Jared Allen to have one sack and Adrian Peterson th have 20 carries for 55 yards and for the Vikings to blow out the Cowboys?

[coach]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Great season for the Cowboys..they need to get some depth at O-line..a kicker..another WR threat and some playmaking safties.

They will be back next year

a kicker? they dont need a kicker do they? and some would add a qb to that list but me and you both know how ignorant they are

[TexMike]

aLL RIGHT!! JJ is on the field. Time to get it going!

[ziggy29]

The Vikes' open-field tackling has been amazing today.

[TheDOCTORdre]

well mixed emotions about the game because I really didnt like our chances in a rematch with the Saints

[sinton66]

Jason Garrett was a good coordinator at first because he threw in unexpected wrinkles. The problem is he still trys to but they aren't unexpected anymore. The better teams have figured out his "schtick". He needs to adjust his play calling or resign. Either way, the Cowboys would fare better.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
a kicker? they dont need a kicker do they? and some would add a qb to that list but me and you both know how ignorant they are


If you put together a perfect O-line then ANY QB can do the job Coach! It's when they are under assault that a average QB is exposed. And Romo has been exposed for 3 seasons.
Would the Vikings have won this game with Romo at QB?????? Not even close!

[JJWalker]

Originally posted by sinton66
Fumbles are inevitable if your O line can't protect the QB. That's not on Romo.
True turnovers are inevitable, but two (maybe even a third) were on the opening drives.

Since that point ... to the most part the Vikes "D" has been able to unload.

[coach]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
If you put together a perfect O-line then ANY QB can do the job Coach! It's when they are under assault that a average QB is exposed. And Romo has been exposed for 3 seasons.
Would the Vikings have won this game with Romo at QB?????? Not even close!

well what i was saying is i wonder what peyton would look like in the pressure that romo has been in. they have only given up 10 sacks all year.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
If you put together a perfect O-line then ANY QB can do the job Coach! It's when they are under assault that a average QB is exposed. And Romo has been exposed for 3 seasons.
Would the Vikings have won this game with Romo at QB?????? Not even close!

Dude I am sorry but sometimes your analysis of Romo borders on an obsession of WANTING him to fail.

Name a QB that would have great numbers and a great game getting sacked 6 times and hit another 14 times on 35 dropbacks?

Farve got sacked 3 times but was rarely under pressure...so yes if Romo was playing for the Vikes today I think they still win.

[sinton66]

Originally posted by JJWalker
True turnovers are inevitable, but two (maybe even a third) were on the opening drives.

Since that point ... to the most part the Vikes "D" has been able to unload.

Understand that, but it's still on the O-Line. 5 sacks, 13 negative plays, and 3 turnovers, NO offense is going to prosper enough to win.

[coach]

i like how the entire game the poll said the boys would win 6-1 and now alll of a sudden the vikings get more votes lol

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by bobcat4life
the cowboys defense played Well.
:confused:

[coach]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Dude I am sorry but sometimes your analysis of Romo borders on an obsession of WANTING him to fail.

Name a QB that would have great numbers and a great game getting sacked 6 times and hit another 14 times on 35 dropbacks?

Farve got sacked 3 times but was rarely under pressure...so yes if Romo was playing for the Vikes today I think they still win.
terry im surprised it took you this long to figure out all he is obsessed with is to bash romo. hell thats the only time he post. we havent heard from him thelast 4 weeks bc he knows his idiotic post would make him look dumb whn the boys are winning

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by coach
well what i was saying is i wonder what peyton would look like in the pressure that romo has been in. they have only given up 10 sacks all year.



Peyton would do what Peyton has been doing for his entire career. If under assault like Romo was he gets rid of the ball in 1 to 2 seconds and is accurate.

[TheDOCTORdre]

i think what we can take from Dallas postseason victory over the Eagles is the Eagles were pretenders

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Peyton would do what Peyton has been doing for his entire career. If under assault like Romo was he gets rid of the ball in 1 to 2 seconds and is accurate.

:iagree:

[coach]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
i think what we can take from Dallas postseason victory over the Eagles is the Eagles were pretenders

the eagles were 0 for against playoff teams

[sinton66]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Peyton would do what Peyton has been doing for his entire career. If under assault like Romo was he gets rid of the ball in 1 to 2 seconds and is accurate.

If he's all that, how come the Colts don't win super bowls EVERY year? I've seen him sacked plenty of times.

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by sinton66
If he's all that, how come the Colts don't win super bowls EVERY year? I've seen him sacked plenty of times.

Because their are plenty of TEAMS that can compete with Indi., He can't do it all by himself no matter how good he is, but the point here is that he is quick to get rid of the ball and doesn't have games where he is sacked 6 times, fumbles the ball twice, and throws 2 ints.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by 99IHSMustang
Because their are plenty of TEAMS that can compete with Indi., He can't do it all by himself no matter how good he is, but the point here is that he is quick to get rid of the ball and doesn't have games where he is sacked 6 times, fumbles the ball twice, and throws 2 ints.

You cant just say ok I am going to get rid of the ball asap..you have to have THAT style of offense in place...and people need to quit acting like Manning has an average Oline..they have a GREAT Oline..and Manning plays well with it and they work great together

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Dude I am sorry but sometimes your analysis of Romo borders on an obsession of WANTING him to fail.

Name a QB that would have great numbers and a great game getting sacked 6 times and hit another 14 times on 35 dropbacks?

Farve got sacked 3 times but was rarely under pressure...so yes if Romo was playing for the Vikes today I think they still win.


And your analysis borders on an obsession for making excuses for him. The thing that has me upset to my stomach right now is that I had almost started to believe again!

[99IHSMustang]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
You cant just say ok I am going to get rid of the ball asap..you have to have THAT style of offense in place...and people need to quit acting like Manning has an average Oline..they have a GREAT Oline..and Manning plays well with it and they work great together

I agree with you in that Manning has an excellent O-line, but I watched his game yesterday against the Ravens and he was pressured and was getting rid of the ball pretty quickly. Several times he went down like Favre did today and didnt take chances. Manning knows that he isnt fast and can't scramble out of the pocket worth a darn.

[NateDawg39]

Im gonna go out on a limb here and blame the team, the coaches and everyone else involved on the field....and what made me mad (as usual) is Jerry Jones coming on the field :doh:

[forum_guy]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
i think what we can take from Dallas postseason victory over the Eagles is the Eagles were pretenders


exactly as i stated on the other thread. The vikings offensive line is not as crappy as the eagles. They don't have second stringers in because of injuries. Especially at the center position.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
And your analysis borders on an obsession for making excuses for him. The thing that has me upset to my stomach right now is that I had almost started to believe again!

again..NAME ME A QB THT HAS A GOOD GAME WHEN BEING SACKED OR HIT 20 times out 35 dropbacks

even with that rush he hit 62% of his passes. Sorry but if the Oline has been even just AVERAGE Romo was going to have a good day.

And these were not coverage sacks, theses were Romo getting pressure as soon as he was on his back leg planting to throw the ball.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by TheDOCTORdre
i think what we can take from Dallas postseason victory over the Eagles is the Eagles were pretenders



If Dallas plays even close to as good as they did against Philly they win this game. The Dallas offense was horrible today!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullaholic]

The Cowboys got soundly thrashed today. Anytime you have complete domination of one unit over another in pro football, the dominated team usually loses. The Vike's defensive front dominated today. I don't think any other QB, RB, or group of wide receivers playing without an "O" line capable of holding up against this Viking front, would have made any diff in the game today---they just wouldn't have had much time to do what they do well just as the Cowboy's skill players didn't.

The Cowboys took a big step this season, but they found out today that there still are a couple more to go----and I'll be here to see them eventually make it into another Superbowl.

Go Cowboys!

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
If Dallas plays even close to as good as they did against Philly they win this game. The Dallas offense was horrible today!!!!!!!!!! I agree, and you cant expect the Defense to keep coming out there when they see a kicker miss or a QB fumble. That takes a lot out of a teams heart.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
again..NAME ME A QB THT HAS A GOOD GAME WHEN BEING SACKED OR HIT 20 times out 35 dropbacks

even with that rush he hit 62% of his passes. Sorry but if the Oline has been even just AVERAGE Romo was going to have a good day.

And these were not coverage sacks, theses were Romo getting pressure as soon as he was on his back leg planting to throw the ball.




I'm not arguing with you about this anymore.

The "Silver Lining" is that WADE PHILIPS will be gone!!!!!!! Even Jerry isn't stupid.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I'm not arguing with you about this anymore.

The "Silver Lining" is that WADE PHILIPS will be gone!!!!!!! Even Jerry isn't stupid.

no your not arguing because you cant show me a NFL QB that is hit 20 out of 35 times passing being sacked 6 times and having a good game...You just cant accept Romo is not the cause of every loss Dallas has. The O line was TERRIBLE today

and I think as much as I am not a fan of Phillips it was would be absolutley stupid to get fire him now and would set the team back.

[TheDOCTORdre]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I'm not arguing with you about this anymore.

The "Silver Lining" is that WADE PHILIPS will be gone!!!!!!! Even Jerry isn't stupid.

not much of a silver lining if Garrett is still there

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Im gonna go out on a limb here and blame the team, the coaches and everyone else involved on the field....
Pretty much sums up the game I watched!

[JasperDog94]

Terry Bradshaw did not like that last touchdown pass by Favre. I happen to agree with him. That was Brett Favre padding his stats. There's no reason for that. I hope the Saints hang half a hundred on Favre in a shutout.

[Eagle 1]

Wow, I hope the Dallas lineman DON'T cash their checks this week because they got whipped like a rented mule.
I certainly didn't expect that.
Good luck to the Vikings next week. A 4-4 team on the road is going to need some luck beating New Orleans in the dome.
Is Minnesota the new Phili team? I thought that last TD was a little classless.

Incidently, I'm not going to take up for Romo.
Good gosh he fumbles the ball a lot. I dont care if he is getting sacked, he can't not hang on to the ball. There are a lot of qb's in the league who get sacked more than him but dont fumble the ball as much as he does.

[Z motion 10 out on 2]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Terry Bradshaw did not like that last touchdown pass by Favre. I happen to agree with him. That was Brett Favre padding his stats. There's no reason for that. I hope the Saints hang half a hundred on Favre in a shutout.

I agree. On a 4th and 3 just kick the field goal or run the ball. Now, I hope the Saints run it up on them and I hope we remember that for next year when we play them.

I also liked to see Brooking get fired up like he did. Glad to see some of that.

[JJWalker]

Originally posted by Eagle 1
... Incidently, I'm not going to take up for Romo.
Good gosh he fumbles the ball a lot. I dont care if he is getting sacked, he can't not hang on to the ball. There are a lot of qb's in the league who get sacked more than him but dont fumble the ball as much as he does.
Yesterday he fumbled it a bunch getting hit or not.

[Txbroadcaster]

Romo was 26th in the league this year with 5 fumbles

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Romo was 26th in the league this year with 5 fumbles

And if there's a silver lining in the three he had yesterday, it's that only one of them was definitively his fault--the first one.

The second one (which Dallas recovered) looked like a snap issue...that's on him and Gurode, but at least they managed to recover it. Still killed a drive though.

The third one, 10 out of 10 quarterbacks fumble in that instance. It was a blindside hit that came way too quickly right as Romo was cocking back to throw a pass. Not a thing in the world you can do there.

Now the INT...that's something that Romo needs to watch some more film on and cut out. He hadn't made that play since September, but that's a case of him reverting to the decision-making that got him ripped in the past.

[Bullaholic]

I don't think I'm going to be critical of Romo for this lop-sided loss. I don't think Peyton, Brees, or Brady would have fared any better against the Vikes front four yesterday with the Cowboys "O" line in front of them. The Cowboys had better get a couple of young "studs" from somewhere for their big, but aging and slow offensive line---otherwise, we had better get ready for more of the same type games that we watched yesterday.

[JJWalker]

OK, I saw this and thought it was funny.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/328032-top-five-things-overheard-at-the-vikingscowboys-game#page/3

I probably find it funnier than most, but it does explain it.

[Eagle 1]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Romo was 26th in the league this year with 5 fumbles

Before or after yesterday?

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
I don't think I'm going to be critical of Romo for this lop-sided loss. I don't think Peyton, Brees, or Brady would have fared any better against the Vikes front four yesterday with the Cowboys "O" line in front of them. The Cowboys had better get a couple of young "studs" from somewhere for their big, but aging and slow offensive line---otherwise, we had better get ready for more of the same type games that we watched yesterday.





Here are Romo's QB ratings the last 4 seasons in SEASON ENDING games:

09' vs Minnesota= 66.1
08' vs Philly= 55.8
07' vs NY= 64.7
06' vs Seattle= 89.6


For 4 seasons now the "BLAME" has been put elsewhere and changes have been made to try to fix it. But we keep getting the same results.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Here are Romo's QB ratings the last 4 seasons in SEASON ENDING games:

09' vs Minnesota= 66.1
08' vs Philly= 55.8
07' vs NY= 64.7
06' vs Seattle= 89.6


For 4 seasons now the "BLAME" has been put elsewhere and changes have been made to try to fix it. But we keep getting the same results.

Unless you win the Super Bowl, chances are your quarterback had a bad season ending game. That's probably the most worthless stat you've ever brought up.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Here are Romo's QB ratings the last 4 seasons in SEASON ENDING games:

09' vs Minnesota= 66.1
08' vs Philly= 55.8
07' vs NY= 64.7
06' vs Seattle= 89.6


For 4 seasons now the "BLAME" has been put elsewhere and changes have been made to try to fix it. But we keep getting the same results.

Really? That is the stat you pull out?

Tom Brady season ending game rating
09 49.1
07 82
06 79
06 70

Eli Manning
08 40
07 87
06 35


And the results are the same? Really?

Seems to me Romo led Dallas to a play off win..something not happened since 96..so I guess the results cant be the "same"

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
Unless you win the Super Bowl, chances are your quarterback had a bad season ending game. That's probably the most worthless stat you've ever brought up.


So what you are saying is that the QB MUST have a good game in order for the team to win????? I think that is exactly what these stats show hasn't been happening! Thanks crzy!

[pancho villa]

Rogers played good for Green Bay the Defense just did not show up.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
So what you are saying is that the QB MUST have a good game in order for the team to win????? I think that is exactly what these stats show hasn't been happening! Thanks crzy!

That's a serious reach.

I said that the chances are that in a loss, your quarterback had a bad game. Not always...definitely not MUST...

But usually, when the team suffers a loss, a quarterback's passer rating is going to be lower than his usual number.

You show me one quarterback who played a great game this year while getting blasted as many times as Romo did...I can show you several quarterbacks who played far worse than Romo.

Philip Rivers was terrible for San Diego, and his team was far hotter and playing a far weaker team than the Cowboys did. Kurt Warner came off of one of the greatest performances by a quarterback in NFL history and didn't play well this week. Tom Brady went out last week playing below his average.

It's the playoffs man. Good teams and good quarterbacks go down. Tony Romo is a very good quarterback on a very good team, but just like Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Kurt Warner, Donovan McNabb, and Aaron Rodgers, very good quarterbacks get eliminated in the playoffs.

Sounds to me like you're just having a hard time accepting that and want to blame your team for hurting your feelings.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Really? That is the stat you pull out?

Tom Brady season ending game rating
09 49.1
07 82
06 79
06 70

Eli Manning
08 40
07 87
06 35


And the results are the same? Really?

Seems to me Romo led Dallas to a play off win..something not happened since 96..so I guess the results cant be the "same"



When mediocrity is your measure then a single playoff win seems like a victory.
You show Bradys "BAD" years to compare to Romos "BEST"! And Brady still beats him.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
When mediocrity is your measure then a single playoff win seems like a victory.
Y.

And this is the problem with SOME Cowboy fans..You think Dallas is entitled to a SB appearance every year.

The early 90's Cowboys had to fall in the play offs before winning..The Landry Cowboys had to fall in the play offs ( A BUNCH) before finally winning.

This Cowboy team has shown they have the talent and coaching to be in the SB hunt. That is all you can hope for. Once the play offs start anything can happen.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
When mediocrity is your measure then a single playoff win seems like a victory.
You show Bradys "BAD" years to compare to Romos "BEST"! And Brady still beats him.

If quarterback rating is your number, Romo was better than Brady both in this year's regular season and postseason.

So Brady definitely doesn't beat Romo in his "BAD" years, especially considering how many pundits viewed this year as one of Brady's better years.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
That's a serious reach.

I said that the chances are that in a loss, your quarterback had a bad game. Not always...definitely not MUST...

But usually, when the team suffers a loss, a quarterback's passer rating is going to be lower than his usual number.

You show me one quarterback who played a great game this year while getting blasted as many times as Romo did...I can show you several quarterbacks who played far worse than Romo.

Philip Rivers was terrible for San Diego, and his team was far hotter and playing a far weaker team than the Cowboys did. Kurt Warner came off of one of the greatest performances by a quarterback in NFL history and didn't play well this week. Tom Brady went out last week playing below his average.

It's the playoffs man. Good teams and good quarterbacks go down. Tony Romo is a very good quarterback on a very good team, but just like Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Kurt Warner, Donovan McNabb, and Aaron Rodgers, very good quarterbacks get eliminated in the playoffs.

Sounds to me like you're just having a hard time accepting that and want to blame your team for hurting your feelings.



At least I don't make excuses!

Did Romo play poorly because of how many times he got blasted or Did Romo get Blasted all those times because of how poorly he played????? If you will remember he had the Vikings defense right where he wanted them with the first two possessions. Dallas dominated Minnesota until they fail to score on the first possession and Romo fumbles on the second possession. 1 great (lucky) pass from Favre and the Vikings are ahead when they have not done a single thing on offense. A good QB gets the ball into the endzone on that first possession and the game is completely different. (SEE NEW ORLEANS GAME).

[waterboy]

I don't know why people always portray Romo as the scapegoat. When the offensive line can't block for their QB, I don't care who they are, they will not be successful. Romo was under assault the whole game against Minnesota. If given time to throw the ball, I think Romo is one of the top 4 or 5 QBs in the NFL. No need to BLAME Romo alone for the loss. It takes a TEAM effort to win in the NFL. This season is over and done with. I'm anxious to see if they can pick up a few more players that will make an impact for next season.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
A good QB gets the ball into the endzone on that first possession and the game is completely different. (SEE NEW ORLEANS GAME).
A "good QB" is only as good as the players around him! His receivers weren't getting separation, and when they did it was too late because the offensive line didn't give him time.

[forum_guy]

This game can best be summed up as the BETTER team won. They could play this game 10 times and IMO the Vikings would win it 8 times.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
At least I don't make excuses!

Did Romo play poorly because of how many times he got blasted or Did Romo get Blasted all those times because of how poorly he played????? If you will remember he had the Vikings defense right where he wanted them with the first two possessions. Dallas dominated Minnesota until they fail to score on the first possession and Romo fumbles on the second possession. 1 great (lucky) pass from Favre and the Vikings are ahead when they have not done a single thing on offense. A good QB gets the ball into the endzone on that first possession and the game is completely different. (SEE NEW ORLEANS GAME).

romo fumbled on first possesion..which btw he was going to be SACKED..

he was already on way down when he fumbled...but I guess it is his fault that Colombo got beat so bad that Romo was having to duck pressure as soon as he planted his back foot to throw.

Which btw the play before Jones was dropped for a 4yd loss making it a 3rd and 14

The 2nd possesion..the missed FG one... on 3rd and 9 he hit Miles Austin who was stopped a half a yard short of the 1st down..but I guess that is Romo's Fault as well

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
If quarterback rating is your number, Romo was better than Brady both in this year's regular season and postseason.

So Brady definitely doesn't beat Romo in his "BAD" years, especially considering how many pundits viewed this year as one of Brady's better years.


What I said was:
You showed Bradys 4 worst QB ratings in the playoffs and compared them to Romo's career playoff ratings. Bradys 4 worst average out at a 70 and Romo's career rating is a 69. And one of Bradys worst Ratings is in a Superbowl loss!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
What I said was:
You showed Bradys 4 worst QB ratings in the playoffs and compared them to Romo's career playoff ratings. Bradys 4 worst average out at a 70 and Romo's career rating is a 69. And one of Bradys worst Ratings is in a Superbowl loss!

Romo's play-off rating is now 80..nope not great but not 69.

he has completed 60% of his play off passes has 4 TDs and 2 ints...again not terrible numbers

unless ur going to pin the bobbled hold on him for Seattle game I dont think you can point to Romo as why Dallas lost agianst the Giants in 07 or the Vikes last week..did he play amazing games on those games..no he did not..but in both games his OL became turnstiles as he was sacked 9 times in the two games.

as I asked u before..name me a QB that is sacked 6 times and hit 20 times out of 35 passing attempts who had a good game.

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
What I said was:
You showed Bradys 4 worst QB ratings in the playoffs and compared them to Romo's career playoff ratings. Bradys 4 worst average out at a 70 and Romo's career rating is a 69. And one of Bradys worst Ratings is in a Superbowl loss!

No...I showed nothing.

Txbroadcaster showed Brady's last four season-ending losses. Not his four worst average games. He took the same numbers that you took for Romo and calculated them for Brady.

The fact of the matter is that you would be disappointed to be a fan of any of the 32 teams in the NFL. Sure the Steelers won the Super Bowl last year, but they didn't make the playoffs this year.

There's not a single team that you'd be proud to call your own because your team won't win the Super Bowl every year. I guess in your mind that's a sad state of affairs, but for the rest of the world, that's life.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Romo's play-off rating is now 80..nope not great but not 69.

he has completed 60% of his play off passes has 4 TDs and 2 ints...again not terrible numbers

unless ur going to pin the bobbled hold on him for Seattle game I dont think you can point to Romo as why Dallas lost agianst the Giants in 07 or the Vikes last week..did he play amazing games on those games..no he did not..but in both games his OL became turnstiles as he was sacked 9 times in the two games.

as I asked u before..name me a QB that is sacked 6 times and hit 20 times out of 35 passing attempts who had a good game.




The entire offense played horrible and Romo was the leader of the pack. Everybody knows this yet so many of you Romo excuse makers don't put enough significant blame on him. Stop making excuses for him. The offense is NEVER going to be any better than the QB can make it. IF Minnesota had a QB that played like Romo did then the Dallas defense would be the heros today. Oh Wait! They did play Philly two weeks ago and McNabb played like Romo and Dallas dominated them. The QB is the engine that makes the car go. You can paint it all fancy with new receivers and O-linemen or you can put a ground effects kit on it with a 3 headed monster at running back but the truth is it's still only as good as the engine under the hood. Although Romo has been usable to good in a lot of areas he has proven over a 4 season career that he can't compete in the big race. Shiny paint and all he stalled at the starting line!!!!!!

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
The entire offense played horrible and Romo was the leader of the pack. Everybody knows this yet so many of you Romo excuse makers don't put enough significant blame on him. Stop making excuses for him. The offense is NEVER going to be any better than the QB can make it. IF Minnesota had a QB that played like Romo did then the Dallas defense would be the heros today. Oh Wait! They did play Philly two weeks ago and McNabb played like Romo and Dallas dominated them. The QB is the engine that makes the car go. You can paint it all fancy with new receivers and O-linemen or you can put a ground effects kit on it with a 3 headed monster at running back but the truth is it's still only as good as the engine under the hood. Although Romo has been usable to good in a lot of areas he has proven over a 4 season career that he can't compete in the big race. Shiny paint and all he stalled at the starting line!!!!!!

LOL wow..you honestly think now that Romo is at fault for being sacked 6 times and hit 20 of the 35 times he passed...wow

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
No...I showed nothing.

Txbroadcaster showed Brady's last four season-ending losses. Not his four worst average games. He took the same numbers that you took for Romo and calculated them for Brady.

The fact of the matter is that you would be disappointed to be a fan of any of the 32 teams in the NFL. Sure the Steelers won the Super Bowl last year, but they didn't make the playoffs this year.

There's not a single team that you'd be proud to call your own because your team won't win the Super Bowl every year. I guess in your mind that's a sad state of affairs, but for the rest of the world, that's life.





I find it funny that you too have fallen into the Pick6 mode of making observations about me personally because you disagree with my opinions about Tony Romo. You and so many other Romo excuse makers flat refuse to accept what the rest of the world knows and acknowledge that there could be cause for alarm. Again I make the statement that where there is smoke there is fire. You see, Romo is one of the most contraversial QBs in the NFL for a reason. Not everyone who dislikes Romo got a letter from the anti-Romo fan club president asking them to hate Romo. Normally when fans hate a "GOOD" QB it's the QB that plays on the OTHER team. There is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE number of Cowboys fans who have learned to hate Romo. They see what the man does on the field (and off) and make up their own minds based on the results. You can chose to disagree with it if you so desire but why must Romosexuals act like the results are not questionable. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT SO MANY QUESTION THEM MEANS THEY ARE QUESTIONABLE!!!!! How much simplier must it be? The fact that Romo breeds so much intense discussion about his ability means that there is huge questions about his ability.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I find it funny that you too have fallen into the Pick6 mode of making observations about me personally because you disagree with my opinions about Tony Romo. You and so many other Romo excuse makers flat refuse to accept what the rest of the world knows and acknowledge that there could be cause for alarm. Again I make the statement that where there is smoke there is fire. You see, Romo is one of the most contraversial QBs in the NFL for a reason. Not everyone who dislikes Romo got a letter from the anti-Romo fan club president asking them to hate Romo. Normally when fans hate a "GOOD" QB it's the QB that plays on the OTHER team. There is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE number of Cowboys fans who have learned to hate Romo. They see what the man does on the field (and off) and make up their own minds based on the results. You can chose to disagree with it if you so desire but why must Romosexuals act like the results are not questionable. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT SO MANY QUESTION THEM MEANS THEY ARE QUESTIONABLE!!!!! How much simplier must it be? The fact that Romo breeds so much intense discussion about his ability means that there is huge questions about his ability.

Same "discussion" there was about Peyton till he finally won a SB and Eli till he won a SB and Elway and Marino and now Phillip Rivers

The discussion is because IMO fans have turned the QB position into a if you dont win the SB your not that great position, fair or not.

The simple fact is Romo has now won 2 division titles in 3 years as a full starter and one his first play off game this year

Now we see where it goes from there..but to act like he has no chance to take Dallas to a SB IMO is such a dumb stance.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
LOL wow..you honestly think now that Romo is at fault for being sacked 6 times and hit 20 of the 35 times he passed...wow




I've always felt you were a pretty knowledgable football person TX. You tell me! What does a QB do to stop a overly agressive defense? And if there is no way to stop what the Vikings were doing then I'm guessing the Vikings defense has 102 sacks this season, right? And the Vikings defense only gave up 51 points this entire season, right?
Come on TX! You know what I'm talking about. Romo must first and foremost establish that the defense cannot simply explode to the QB and go full speed. Slants, Screens and quick outs puts those kinds of defenses in their place. Romo did none of them. That's all I'm saying. If your QB plays in such a way that the defense can go full agressive mode on him then he will get his "youknowwhat" handed to him. You would expect a high school QB to be lost against that but not a Pro. And the fact is that almost ALL teams that the Vikings have played this season handled it better than Romo did.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I've always felt you were a pretty knowledgable football person TX. You tell me! What does a QB do to stop a overly agressive defense? And if there is no way to stop what the Vikings were doing then I'm guessing the Vikings defense has 102 sacks this season, right? And the Vikings defense only gave up 51 points this entire season, right?
Come on TX! You know what I'm talking about. Romo must first and foremost establish that the defense cannot simply explode to the QB and go full speed. Slants, Screens and quick outs puts those kinds of defenses in their place. Romo did none of them. That's all I'm saying. If your QB plays in such a way that the defense can go full agressive mode on him then he will get his "youknowwhat" handed to him. You would expect a high school QB to be lost against that but not a Pro. And the fact is that almost ALL teams that the Vikings have played this season handled it better than Romo did.

uhh Romo does not call the offense..Garrett does..and your right the play calling SUCKED..but Romo does not say in the huddle..ok guys lets run a slant..I know the OC called something else but lets do a slant anyway

[Txbroadcaster]

HEre is a GREAT comment from JJT of the DMN

There is a certain fandom that's still mad at Jerry for firing Tom Landry. There is also a fandom that is still mad at Romo for the dropped snap in Seattle, for the trip to Cabo and for his ridiculous comments after the Philly game last year. They don't care what he does short of winning a Super Bowl. He's not going to be good enough. But if you are a fan or a reporter, you'd have to be blind not to see the growth Tony Romo has made one, as a quarterback, two as a leader from the end of last year to right now. Because I ripped him as much as anybody from December up until about six weeks ago. I can see him evolve and play better. As a leader his matured and as a player he's matured.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/012010dnspotayloritem.9315b7fc.html

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I find it funny that you too have fallen into the Pick6 mode of making observations about me personally because you disagree with my opinions about Tony Romo. You and so many other Romo excuse makers flat refuse to accept what the rest of the world knows and acknowledge that there could be cause for alarm. Again I make the statement that where there is smoke there is fire. You see, Romo is one of the most contraversial QBs in the NFL for a reason. Not everyone who dislikes Romo got a letter from the anti-Romo fan club president asking them to hate Romo. Normally when fans hate a "GOOD" QB it's the QB that plays on the OTHER team. There is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE number of Cowboys fans who have learned to hate Romo. They see what the man does on the field (and off) and make up their own minds based on the results. You can chose to disagree with it if you so desire but why must Romosexuals act like the results are not questionable. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT SO MANY QUESTION THEM MEANS THEY ARE QUESTIONABLE!!!!! How much simplier must it be? The fact that Romo breeds so much intense discussion about his ability means that there is huge questions about his ability.


Show me where the rest of the world is blaming Romo for the Cowboys not winning the Super Bowl this year.

Heck, show me one respected columnist (what I mean is no fan blogs) who puts the blame for the Vikings game on Romo.

Show me what the "rest of the world" is saying. Because I can show you a plethora of people who have been in or are still around the game that will say that Tony Romo is among the elite quarterbacks in the NFL.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Same "discussion" there was about Peyton till he finally won a SB and Eli till he won a SB and Elway and Marino and now Phillip Rivers

The discussion is because IMO fans have turned the QB position into a if you dont win the SB your not that great position, fair or not.

The simple fact is Romo has now won 2 division titles in 3 years as a full starter and one his first play off game this year

Now we see where it goes from there..but to act like he has no chance to take Dallas to a SB IMO is such a dumb stance.




Not even close TX!!!!! All those guys you mentioned were drafted very, very high and almost everyone knew they would eventually get it done. They were all very young and on bad teams. And none of them created the kind of fan division that Romo has.
I love the Cowboys and always have. I was sitting on the floor with my dad as early as I can remember watching and loving the Cowboys. I've just recently(the last couple of years) become pissed enough speak out. I was laughing at all those anti-cowboy haters who talked smack about them in the early 90's when they had all those crimminals. Even then there were not even close to as many COWBOY FANS turning against players as have recently turned against Romo. All through the late 90's I routed for the team to get better and had no problem with even the 1-15 season because I knew they sucked but were getting better. But with Romo they have not gotten better. His actions and attitude on and off the field have created this stigma of a non-competitor and under acheiver. It's not like people just suddenly woke up one morning and decided that half of the population would begin to hate Tony Romo. Everything people say about him has been earned!! You and several others on here needs to realize that. Perhaps Romo will eventually lead the Cowboys to a Championship but history and the Odds say otherwise.

But hey! "If losing a football game is the worst thing to happen in my life then I've lived a pretty good life".......compliments of YOUR QB.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
uhh Romo does not call the offense..Garrett does..and your right the play calling SUCKED..but Romo does not say in the huddle..ok guys lets run a slant..I know the OC called something else but lets do a slant anyway



Romo calls a audiable based on a defensive read at least 70% of the time. Wade Philips said as much in a press conference. He made great reads against Philly and N.O. and looked like a lost puppy against the Vikes.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Not even close TX!!!!! All those guys you mentioned were drafted very, very high and almost everyone knew they would eventually get it done. They were all very young and on bad teams. And none of them created the kind of fan division that Romo has.
I love the Cowboys and always have. I was sitting on the floor with my dad as early as I can remember watching and loving the Cowboys. I've just recently(the last couple of years) become pissed enough speak out. I was laughing at all those anti-cowboy haters who talked smack about them in the early 90's when they had all those crimminals. Even then there were not even close to as many COWBOY FANS turning against players as have recently turned against Romo. All through the late 90's I routed for the team to get better and had no problem with even the 1-15 season because I knew they sucked but were getting better. But with Romo they have not gotten better. His actions and attitude on and off the field have created this stigma of a non-competitor and under acheiver. It's not like people just suddenly woke up one morning and decided that half of the population would begin to hate Tony Romo. Everything people say about him has been earned!! You and several others on here needs to realize that. Perhaps Romo will eventually lead the Cowboys to a Championship but history and the Odds say otherwise.

But hey! "If losing a football game is the worst thing to happen in my life then I've lived a pretty good life".......compliments of YOUR QB.

wow the Cowboys have not improved since Romo...REALLY?

lets see...10 years of NO play off wins 4 trips only TWO seasons of 10 plus wins

With Romo 2 out of 3 10 plus wins..three trips to the play-offs first win in play offs since 96 and you say they have not improved...

You truly make no sense sometimes with ur hate for Romo

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Romo calls a audiable based on a defensive read at least 70% of the time. Wade Philips said as much in a press conference. He made great reads against Philly and N.O. and looked like a lost puppy against the Vikes.

The audibles have to still have the routes contained to be able to beat the pressure...If they are not in the package you cant just call them out of thin air..WOW

[NateDawg39]

Romo is a great QB, just watch him on the field...and I MEAN WATCH HIM. look at his eyes in replays, watch his feet in the pocket, his shoulder drop ability to avoid a sack, his scramble ability from a defender. You might see someone who actually knows what they are doing.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
HEre is a GREAT comment from JJT of the DMN

There is a certain fandom that's still mad at Jerry for firing Tom Landry. There is also a fandom that is still mad at Romo for the dropped snap in Seattle, for the trip to Cabo and for his ridiculous comments after the Philly game last year. They don't care what he does short of winning a Super Bowl. He's not going to be good enough. But if you are a fan or a reporter, you'd have to be blind not to see the growth Tony Romo has made one, as a quarterback, two as a leader from the end of last year to right now. Because I ripped him as much as anybody from December up until about six weeks ago. I can see him evolve and play better. As a leader his matured and as a player he's matured.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/012010dnspotayloritem.9315b7fc.html



That's a very sensible statement by JJT. Many people probably are angry for all those reasons that he mentions.

But the measure of EVERY QB in the NFL is the Superbowl.

[themsu97]

But the measure of EVERY QB in the NFL is the Superbowl. [/B][/QUOTE]

quit watching ESPN and listening to the media... this is the stupidest idea ever...

Really? so you are saying that Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino?

All I have to do is hear someone making this quote and I know that they have no ideas of their own...
so Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone?

The Cowboys are a good team, they are just not an elite team... Ware is a great player but he in no Jared Allen...

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
The audibles have to still have the routes contained to be able to beat the pressure...If they are not in the package you cant just call them out of thin air..WOW


I would imagine the slant pass is very, very seldom ever "CALLED" by the OC. It is supposed to be a read and communcation thing between the receiver and the QB.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I would imagine the slant pass is very, very seldom ever "CALLED" by the OC. It is supposed to be a read and communcation thing between the receiver and the QB.

WHAT!!! a slant not called by the OC?!?!?! Your talking about a HOT read...here is the problem...Vikes were not blitzing..you call a hot read with a blitz, the WR on the blitz side goes to the vacant spot...Vikings WERE NOT BLITZING to get the pressure..they were sending 4 dropping 7...You cant hot read that because the coverage is not being dictated by the blitz

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by themsu97
But the measure of EVERY QB in the NFL is the Superbowl.

Ware is a great player but he in no Jared Allen... [/B][/QUOTE]

agree with everything you said except this..first off they play diff positions..but I think Ware is a more complete player..but Allen is a stud as well

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
That's a very sensible statement by JJT. Many people probably are angry for all those reasons that he mentions.

But the measure of EVERY QB in the NFL is the Superbowl.


funny you dont comment how he says Romo IMPROVED and showed growth

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by themsu97
But the measure of EVERY QB in the NFL is the Superbowl.

quit watching ESPN and listening to the media... this is the stupidest idea ever...

Really? so you are saying that Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino?

All I have to do is hear someone making this quote and I know that they have no ideas of their own...
so Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone?

The Cowboys are a good team, they are just not an elite team... Ware is a great player but he in no Jared Allen... [/B][/QUOTE]




So I should stop watching ESPN and listening to the media because they are telling me something different than themsu97 is telling me????????

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Farmersfan

Really? so you are saying that Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino?



Who's Dan Marino? :D

[crzyjournalist03]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
quit watching ESPN and listening to the media... this is the stupidest idea ever...

Really? so you are saying that Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino?

All I have to do is hear someone making this quote and I know that they have no ideas of their own...
so Robert Horry is better than Karl Malone?

The Cowboys are a good team, they are just not an elite team... Ware is a great player but he in no Jared Allen...




So I should stop watching ESPN and listening to the media because they are telling me something different than themsu97 is telling me???????? [/B][/QUOTE]

See...I disagree there...obviously you're not listening enough or you'd know that EVRYBODY has been saying for months that Tony Romo has improved tremendously and has this team on the right path, and one playoff loss doesn't change that.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
funny you dont comment how he says Romo IMPROVED and showed growth


I think "Statement" includes everything he said.

But let's see:

09': 97.6 rating. 11-5 record. 4483 yards. 26 TDs. 63.1%
playoff record 1-1

07': 97.4 rating. 13-3 record. 4211 yards 36 TDs. 64.4%.
playoff record 0-1



And based on history we should expect:

10': 91.4 rating. 9-7 record. 3448 yards 26 tds. 61.3%
Missing the playoffs.


You excited now?

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
I think "Statement" includes everything he said.

But let's see:

09': 97.6 rating. 11-5 record. 4483 yards. 26 TDs. 63.1%
playoff record 1-1

07': 97.4 rating. 13-3 record. 4211 yards 36 TDs. 64.4%.
playoff record 0-1



And based on history we should expect:

10': 91.4 rating. 9-7 record. 3448 yards 26 tds. 61.3%
Missing the playoffs.


You excited now?

how does based on history come out to 9-7 and missed play-offs? From last year?

Actually "history" shows that when Romo plays a full season his team will be a 10 plus win team and make the play offs

And kind of funny how you act like stats dont say how good a QB is but u love to use them

You also LEAVE off the int numbers from 07 to 09..oy 19...09 9

look at the fumbles 07 10...09 5

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by crzyjournalist03
So I should stop watching ESPN and listening to the media because they are telling me something different than themsu97 is telling me????????

See...I disagree there...obviously you're not listening enough or you'd know that EVRYBODY has been saying for months that Tony Romo has improved tremendously and has this team on the right path, and one playoff loss doesn't change that. [/B][/QUOTE]



If Tony continues to play like he has played for most of this season then the Cowboys stand a great chance of having another good season. For the most part though, Tony's biggest improvement has been in the INTANGIABLES area. Although not near where it should be I think his leadership has improved a lot. (until Sunday). I also think he has gotten great control of his turnovers. (until Sunday). He can go eons towards mending his reputation with many of us disgruntled fans if he will just be consistent and stop making excuses in the media.

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
See...I disagree there...obviously you're not listening enough or you'd know that EVRYBODY has been saying for months that Tony Romo has improved tremendously and has this team on the right path, and one playoff loss doesn't change that.



If Tony continues to play like he has played for most of this season then the Cowboys stand a great chance of having another good season. For the most part though, Tony's biggest improvement has been in the INTANGIABLES area. Although not near where it should be I think his leadership has improved a lot. (until Sunday). I also think he has gotten great control of his turnovers. (until Sunday). He can go eons towards mending his reputation with many of us disgruntled fans if he will just be consistent and stop making excuses in the media. [/B][/QUOTE]


Show me where he made an excuse this season...also how was he not a good leader on sunday?

[JasperDog94]

Wow. It looks like discussions on Romo may go the way of politics and global warming on this board very soon. :D :D :D

[Bullaholic]

All things said---I'll take the Cowboys with their ups( more ups than most) and their downs (plenty in the last 13 years or so), over any other NFL team franchise over the the last 50 years. Love em' or hate em' ---there is no bigger or greater brand recognition than the Dallas Cowboys in the sports world.

[Farmersfan]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Wow. It looks like discussions on Romo may go the way of politics and global warming on this board very soon. :D :D :D




Sorry JasperDog! I'm done with it for a while! It's fun most of the time but gets very old very quick. There is no way to win in this discussion because the opinions are varied and coming from different levels of expectations for the team and for Romo himself. It has been said and it is very true that Romo will have to win a Superbowl to shut up the naysayers! But then again the Naysayers are somewhat correct unless Romo wins a Superbowl! See what i mean?

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Farmersfan
Sorry JasperDog! I'm done with it for a while! It's fun most of the time but gets very old very quick. There is no way to win in this discussion because the opinions are varied and coming from different levels of expectations for the team and for Romo himself. It has been said and it is very true that Romo will have to win a Superbowl to shut up the naysayers! But then again the Naysayers are somewhat correct unless Romo wins a Superbowl! See what i mean? The same thing was said of Mack Brown. Here's hoping that Romo can win over the naysayers by winning the big one just like Mack did at Texas.:)

[Txbroadcaster]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
The same thing was said of Mack Brown. Here's hoping that Romo can win over the naysayers by winning the big one just like Mack did at Texas.:)


heck there are alot of Brown haters who now say..Well he only won cause of Vince Young LOL

[JasperDog94]

Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
heck there are alot of Brown haters who now say..Well he only won cause of Vince Young LOL Unfortunately you are correct.

[PhiI C]

Originally posted by JasperDog94
Unfortunately you are correct.

Jasper unfortunately he only won one because Colt got hurt early in his last game.

[BullsFan]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
All things said---I'll take the Cowboys with their ups( more ups than most) and their downs (plenty in the last 13 years or so), over any other NFL team franchise over the the last 50 years. Love em' or hate em' ---there is no bigger or greater brand recognition than the Dallas Cowboys in the sports world.

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