Seasons Over -- Whose Your Top 5?

[N4SIR]

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. La Grange

Whose with me?

[Eagle Eyes]

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Cuero
4. Graham
5. La Grange

[OldBison75]

Okay, I'll give you this thought:

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage

But after that:

Graham
Navasota
LaGrange
All would be pretty close in my mind.

I also think that Sinton, Sealy, would be in the top ten.

[N4SIR]

I struggled with my 5 spot and debated between La Grange and Navasota. There is no doubt the Rattlers were an awesome team, not only this year but the last few too.

[TRENCHES06]

The Key to La Grange's success will be finding a servicible QB and putting together another good offensive line.

The RB's and WR positions should be good to go. The Defensive Line should be damn good and the rest of the defense should be decent as well.

[Pudlugger]

Originally posted by Eagle Eyes
1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Cuero
4. Graham
5. La Grange

+1

[oldtownag]

1. Carthage - We are on top till someone knocks us off.
2. Gilmer
3. Cuero
4. Graham
5. Mexia

Mexia had the best offense Carthage faced in the playoffs.

[allforball]

Originally posted by TRENCHES06
The Key to La Grange's success will be finding a servicible QB and putting together another good offensive line.

The RB's and WR positions should be good to go. The Defensive Line should be damn good and the rest of the defense should be decent as well.

Hopefully the Spring offseason will tell the tale of the QB position. LG history might repeat itself. The 2001 team repeated a trip to the state game after losing some key seniors from the state championship team.

GO LEPS!

[Green Bling]

Originally posted by N4SIR
1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. La Grange

Whose with me?
Count me in on this one.
Think maybe Navasota in a tie for 5th.
This was one whale of a season!!

[loco toro]

who cares its over

[Sweetwater Red]

1. Gilmer - State Champs
2. Carthage - State Champs
3. Cuero - Gave Gilmer all they could handle.
4. Graham - Gave Carthage the same.
5. Sweetwater - If the funny shaped ball would've bounced our way a few more times we
would've been playing Carthage in week 16. :rolleyes: :D

[wyliegrad04]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
1. Gilmer - State Champs
2. Carthage - State Champs
3. Cuero - Gave Gilmer all they could handle.
4. Graham - Gave Carthage the same.
5. Sweetwater - If the funny shaped ball would've bounced our way a few more times we
would've been playing Carthage in week 16. :rolleyes: :D

#5 .... now thats funny! haha

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by loco toro
who cares its over fine lets just sit here and not talk about anything for a few months

[NateDawg39]

1 Carthage
2 Gilmer
3 Cuero
4 Graham
5 La Grange
6 Abilene Wylie
7 Navasota
8 Sealy
9 Bridgeport
10 Mexia

I like that for a top ten

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by oldtownag
1. Carthage - We are on top till someone knocks us off.
2. Gilmer
3. Cuero
4. Graham
5. Mexia

Mexia had the best offense Carthage faced in the playoffs. That's only because you were fotunate enough not to have faced the Buckeyes who would have smoked your boys this year.

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
1 Carthage
2 Gilmer
3 Cuero
4 Graham
5 La Grange
6 Abilene Wylie
7 Navasota
8 Sealy
9 Bridgeport
10 Mexia

I like that for a top ten I don't know if you saw Navasota play this year or not, but I did. And of course I also saw Abilene Wylie when we beat them in the Championship game. IMO - Navasota would have been able to beat Wylie pretty handily. But then again I thought Carthage would have beat Graham by at least 2 TD's. I know --- that's why they play the game.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by N4SIR
That's only because you were fotunate enough not to have faced the Buckeyes who would have smoked your boys this year. Oh it seems you are from Gilmer...imagine that

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by N4SIR
I don't know if you saw Navasota play this year or not, but I did. And of course I also saw Abilene Wylie when we beat them in the Championship game. IMO - Navasota would have been able to beat Wylie pretty handily. But then again I thought Carthage would have beat Graham by at least 2 TD's. I know --- that's why they play the game. No but I drove through Navasota one time ;) Not a bad little town

[OldBison75]

The top ten as posted above would be hard to argue with. I agree that from 5 to ten would be pretty much interchangeable. After watching the playoffs this year, Gilmer is definitely the best of 3A and I think Cuero was the closest to them. Carthage would be a close third and Graham would be on thier heels, since they should have won against Carthage, and would have if they had a kicking game at all.

[N4SIR]

Great restaurant right off the interstate. Can't rememebr the name but food was excellent

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by N4SIR
Great restaurant right off the interstate. Can't rememebr the name but food was excellent In fact since im in Houston for a few weeks on R&R I might take a trip to Navasota and find that restaurant

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by OldBison75
The top ten as posted above would be hard to argue with. I agree that from 5 to ten would be pretty much interchangeable. After watching the playoffs this year, Gilmer is definitely the best of 3A and I think Cuero was the closest to them. Carthage would be a close third and Graham would be on thier heels, since they should have won against Carthage, and would have if they had a kicking game at all. I honestly feel that Gilmer would beat Carthage, however, since they are now back to back champs, Carthage gets the top spot. Just my opinion of course

[M-town lobo fan]

Dont leave it out Monahans in top 10,they scored the most points on Graham 28 by the 3rd qtr with 3rd stringers but also gave up 41

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by M-town lobo fan
Dont leave it out Monahans in top 10,they scored the most points on Graham 28 by the 3rd qtr with 3rd stringers but also gave up 41 Yea and Bridgeport scored 48 on them...how did the Monos do in the playoffs?

[bobcat4life]

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. Brownwood :D

[navscanmaster]

Originally posted by N4SIR
Great restaurant right off the interstate. Can't rememebr the name but food was excellent

Wrangler's Steakhouse, right off SH 6. Yes, it looks like an interstate. I think the steak and chicken fried steak are both really good, but the restaurant is generally overpriced.

[N4SIR]

Wranglers -- that's the place. Will stop in again next time I'm going thorugh Navasota.

[jbone68]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
I honestly feel that Gilmer would beat Carthage, however, since they are now back to back champs, Carthage gets the top spot. Just my opinion of course

+1

[jbone68]

1 Carthage
2 Gilmer
3 Cuero
4 Graham
5 La Grange

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by N4SIR
1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. La Grange

Whose with me?

looks good to me :)
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Originally posted by loco toro
who cares its over


Originally posted by NateDawg39
Congrats to the Decatur Eagles girls team on taking the gold :)


Originally posted by loco toro
yeah congrats, but hows that related to 3a football

gotta love the "rookie" experts :hand:

If you don't like it, don't read it :doh:

[easttexas3a]

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
2. Cuero
4. Navasota
5. Graham

I think Cuero would of beat Carthage, will never see it, but Cuero was every bit as good as Gilmer. Gilmer is number 1, they went wire to wire #1, they also played a brutal road to the playoffs.

[NateDawg39]

The REAL state championship was played between Gilmer and Cuero :D

[txsfootball4lif]

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Navasota
4. Graham
5. Abilene Wylie

[txsfootball4lif]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
The REAL state championship was played between Gilmer and Cuero :D

If they are going to have DI and DII then they should both play eachother to decide the real 3A State Champ, which would have been Gilmer easily. Carthage coulnd't hang with Gilmer. Thats just the facts.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by txsfootball4lif
If they are going to have DI and DII then they should both play eachother to decide the real 3A State Champ, which would have been Gilmer easily. Carthage coulnd't hang with Gilmer. Thats just the facts. I agree, an extra game to determine the real winner would be great. But I doubt that happens anytime soon. I think Carthage and Gilmer both suck by the way :devil: :devil:

[txsfootball4lif]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
I agree, an extra game to determine the real winner would be great. But I doubt that happens anytime soon. I think Carthage and Gilmer both suck by the way :devil: :devil:


Yeah, why did they even make divisions in '98?

[eagles_victory]

Originally posted by txsfootball4lif
If they are going to have DI and DII then they should both play eachother to decide the real 3A State Champ, which would have been Gilmer easily. Carthage coulnd't hang with Gilmer. Thats just the facts. I wonder how come noone has ever thought about that before that is almost as initiative as college football having a playoff.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
I wonder how come noone has ever thought about that before that is almost as initiative as college football having a playoff. Whoa HANG ON! College FOOTBALL having playoffs??? Psshhh now who in their right mind would conceive such a notion? Thats the talk of a socialist :mad: :mad:

But not really its all good :D

[txsfootball4lif]

Originally posted by eagles_victory
I wonder how come noone has ever thought about that before that is almost as initiative as college football having a playoff.


I mean it just seems stupid to have 2 State champions per class. I wish someone would take the time and push it with the UIL.

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by txsfootball4lif
I mean it just seems stupid to have 2 State champions per class. I wish someone would take the time and push it with the UIL. But then we would run out of stuff to complain about at the end of the season. However, after one champion per class is determined, we could push the UIL to have our 5A-1As play other states teams to determine the REAL National Champion! Texas 5A programs would do poorly against such teams from North Dakota and Rhode Island :rolleyes:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
since they are now back to back champs, Carthage gets the top spot. Just my opinion of course
ditto

[DukeNukem]

Just my opinion but Monahans deserves to be in the top 10. Had they not lost their starting backfield as well as all everything QB Titus they most likely would have won the DII title. Gave Graham all they wanted with the backup QB and the regular season jv rbs.

[Z-RO]

1 Gilmer
2 Carthage
3A Graham
3B Cuero
5 Abilene Wylie
6 Bridgeport
7 Monahans
8 La Grange

[NIJacket]

Originally posted by loco toro
who cares its over

Really? Exactly what is the forum for, but to discuss these things?
:doh:
Evidently, you do not care, but then again, you did post something.
:thinking:

[Pawdaddy]

1. Gilmer
2. Gilmer JV
3. Gilmer Freshmen
4. Gilmer 8th Grade
5. Gilmer Pep Squad

Of course, we will never know.

[BwdLions]

1 Gilmer
2 Carthage
3 Graham
4 Cuero
5 LaGrange
6 Navasota
7 Abilene Wylie
8 Monahans
9 Bridgeport
10 Sealy

[pirate4state]

Since we are all throwing out our opinions, here is mine...


Gilmer, Carthage, Cuero, La Grange & Sinton :D

[SintonPirateFan]

Originally posted by pirate4state
Since we are all throwing out our opinions, here is mine...


Gilmer, Carthage, Cuero, La Grange & Sinton :D


+1 best post on this whole thread!!

[1st&10]

Originally posted by BwdLions
1 Gilmer
2 Carthage
3 Graham
4 Cuero
5 LaGrange
6 Navasota
7 Abilene Wylie
8 Monahans
9 Bridgeport
10 Sealy Pittsburg would have to be in the top five. Graham beat them in the last 2 minutes on a bad snap over the punters head...Just a thought

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by SintonPirateFan
+1 best post on this whole thread!! Best brown nose attempt on this whole thread! :D

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by 1st&10
Pittsburg would have to be in the top five. Graham beat them in the last 2 minutes on a bad snap over the punters head...Just a thought Only saw Pitt play one time this year and that was against Graham. Pitt did not impress me at all. Hate to say it because they represent East Texas but IMO Gilmer, Cuero, Carthage and Navasota (all of whom I saw play) would have beaten the Pirates this year. And since Graham did beat you, that puts you out of the top five.

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by Pawdaddy
1. Gilmer
2. Gilmer JV
3. Gilmer Freshmen
4. Gilmer 8th Grade
5. Gilmer Pep Squad

Of course, we will never know. Diehard!

[BuckeyeNut]

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Pittsburg
4. Navasota
5.Carthage

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by Black Flag
1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Pittsburg
4. Navasota
5.Carthage

But only one of these teams has SCOREBOARD on your #1.

[Z-RO]

I forgot about Pitt

1 Gilmer
2 Carthage
3A Graham
3B Cuero
5 Pittsburg
6 Abilene Wylie
7 Bridgeport
8 Monahans
9 La Grange

[Old Tiger]

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Graham
4. Abilene Wylie
5. Cuero

[1st&10]

Originally posted by N4SIR
Only saw Pitt play one time this year and that was against Graham. Pitt did not impress me at all. Hate to say it because they represent East Texas but IMO Gilmer, Cuero, Carthage and Navasota (all of whom I saw play) would have beaten the Pirates this year. And since Graham did beat you, that puts you out of the top five. We will try and do better next year....want to play us? Now that would be a big gate and a lot of fun.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by 1st&10
We will try and do better next year....want to play us? Now that would be a big gate and a lot of fun.
I would be willing to bet money that we'll be in the same district next year. If we're not in the same district I would like to see us renew the rivalry.

Depending on what district and region the Buckeyes are in, I'd like to see these 3 matchups for sure:

Gilmer vs. Pittsburg (home and away)
Gilmer vs. Carthage (at the TMF Rose Classic)
Gilmer vs. Jacksonville - some people are saying this one is gonna happen

[1st&10]

Originally posted by waterboy
I would be willing to bet money that we'll be in the same district next year. If we're not in the same district I would like to see us renew the rivalry.

Depending on what district and region the Buckeyes are in, I'd like to see these 3 matchups for sure:

Gilmer vs. Pittsburg (home and away)
Gilmer vs. Carthage (at the TMF Rose Classic)
Gilmer vs. Jacksonville - some people are saying this one is gonna happen That would be a very strong district. Pittsburg, Gilmer, Gladewater, Spring Hill and White Oak(if they go back to 3a) and I would really like to have us play Mt. Pleasant again.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by 1st&10
That would be a very strong district. Pittsburg, Gilmer, Gladewater, Spring Hill and White Oak(if they go back to 3a) and I would really like to have us play Mt. Pleasant again.
I don't see White Oak moving back up to 3A. I do look for Kilgore, Henderson, and Lindale to move down to 3A, though. That should definitely make 3A interesting in East Texas for sure.

Region 2

15-3A: Liberty-Eylau, Pleasant Grove, Paris, North Lamar, Atlanta, and Mt. Vernon

16-3A: Gilmer, Pittsburg, Lindale, Spring Hill, Kilgore, and Gladewater

Region 3

17-3A: Carthage, Henderson, Jasper, Diboll, Huntington, and Tatum

:D ...........maybe..........:D

[1st&10]

Originally posted by waterboy
I don't see White Oak moving back up to 3A. I do look for Kilgore, Henderson, and Lindale to move down to 3A, though. That should definitely make 3A interesting in East Texas for sure.

Region 2

15-3A: Liberty-Eylau, Pleasant Grove, Paris, North Lamar, Atlanta, and Mt. Vernon

16-3A: Gilmer, Pittsburg, Lindale, Spring Hill, Kilgore, and Tatum

Region 3

17-3A: Carthage, Henderson, Jasper, Diboll, Huntington, and Rusk

:D ...........maybe..........:D I like the district 16-3a but you do have Gladewater. They would have to be there somewhere in that district. And from what I have been hearing Mt. Vernon might go down to 2a and I forgot about Redwater, I think that they might make the move up to 3A

[waterboy]

Originally posted by 1st&10
I like the district 16-3a but you do have Gladewater. They would have to be there somewhere in that district. And from what I have been hearing Mt. Vernon might go down to 2a and I forgot about Redwater, I think that they might make the move up to 3A
I fixed it. Forgot about them.:doh: Mt. Vernon could drop, but I don't think Redwater will move up. I think they'll raise 3A numbers by about 30-50 students. What did those schools turn in?

[Booter11]

1. Carthage
2. Gilmer
3. Graham
4. Wylie
5. Cuero

[waterboy]

BTW, my final ratings:

1) Gilmer
2) Cuero
3) Carthage
4) Abilene Wylie - because they should've beaten Graham :devil:
5) Graham

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by waterboy
17-3A: Carthage, Henderson, Jasper, Diboll, Huntington, and Tatum

Center? Tatum might slip to 2A again.

[waterboy]

Originally posted by oldtownag
Center? Tatum might slip to 2A again.
True. Tatum might slip to 2A again.......and I forgot all about Center. Put Center in 17-3A and take Rusk out.:D If Tatum does slip down to 2A, Daingerfield might actually have some competition in the playoffs.:devil: This year the Tigers would've taken 'em easily, though.

[Buckeye80]

1. Gilmer
2. Carthage
3. Cuero
4. Navasota
5. Graham
6. La Grange
7. Pittsburg
8. Abilene Wylie
9. Lucas Lovejoy
10. Sealy

And I'm not familiar with the phrase "having scoreboard on someone". I take that to mean that Carthage should be ranked higher than Gilmer at the end of the 2009 season because they beat us in 2008??:confused:

If that is the case, I am so going back to find my post from Week 10 about that very statement being made should Gilmer and Carthage both win. My God!!! I'm psychic!

[oldtownag]

[i]And I'm not familiar with the phrase "having scoreboard on someone". I take that to mean that Carthage should be ranked higher than Gilmer at the end of the 2009 season because they beat us in 2008??:confused:

If that is the case, I am so going back to find my post from Week 10 about that very statement being made should Gilmer and Carthage both win. My God!!! I'm psychic! [/B]

Your not psychic, your just smart. You just can't say that you are better than someone until you beat them on the field.

[waterboy]

We didn't get the chance to play y'all this year. Believe me, that was about the only disappointment about our '09 season. We were all geared up to play ya but Chapel Hill couldn't get it done.:( Still, 2008 was 2008, and 2009 woulda, coulda, shoulda been a whole other story! So "scoreboard" don't mean didley this year. It's all good, though, we got another state championship, too!;)

[snake_attack]

Originally posted by navscanmaster
Wrangler's Steakhouse, right off SH 6. Yes, it looks like an interstate. I think the steak and chicken fried steak are both really good, but the restaurant is generally overpriced.

What? Wrangler's Steakhouse? No way. The best place to go is La Casita. Great food and its really cheap.

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by waterboy
We didn't get the chance to play y'all this year. Believe me, that was about the only disappointment about our '09 season. We were all geared up to play ya but Chapel Hill couldn't get it done.:( Still, 2008 was 2008, and 2009 woulda, coulda, shoulda been a whole other story! So "scoreboard" don't mean didley this year. It's all good, though, we got another state championship, too!;)

We are sad as well. Congrats on the state title. Lets talk up a pre-district meeting for next year.

[Buckeye80]

Originally posted by oldtownag
Your not psychic, your just smart. You just can't say that you are better than someone until you beat them on the field.

We started off the year at number one and finished undefeated to maintain the number one ranking. Carthage beat Gilmer in 2008, and the pollsters still decided that Gilmer should be ranked higher than Carthage to start the 2009 season.
The truth is that neither team can say they are better than the other because they did not play. But we maintain the number one ranking because we've had it all year. Carthage beating Gilmer in 2008 has absolutely no bearing on the 2009 season.

State champs are state champs, and we both are state champs!:clap:

[WOS87]

1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. Abilene Wylie


Seems very straightforward to me :)

Gilmer performed significantly better against every single common opponent they played with Carthage. Cuero came 1 yard away from beating Gilmer but still Gilmer won every game of their season by 6 points or more.

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by Buckeye80
We started off the year at number one and finished undefeated to maintain the number one ranking. Carthage beat Gilmer in 2008, and the pollsters still decided that Gilmer should be ranked higher than Carthage to start the 2009 season.
The truth is that neither team can say they are better than the other because they did not play. But we maintain the number one ranking because we've had it all year. Carthage beating Gilmer in 2008 has absolutely no bearing on the 2009 season.

State champs are state champs, and we both are state champs!:clap:

Ok, you convinced me. Gilmer is not better than Carthage.

[HEMOTOXIC]

1. GILMER
2. CUERO
3. CARTHAGE/GRAHAM
4. NAVASOTA/WYLIE/PITTSBURGH
5. LA GRANGE/SINTON/LL

IN SUM
1. GILMER
2. CUERO
3. CARTHAGE
4. GRAHAM
5. NAVASOTA
6. WYLIE
7. PITT
8. LA GRANGE
9. SINTON
10. LOVEJOY

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by WOS87
1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. Abilene Wylie


Seems very straightforward to me :)

Gilmer performed significantly better against every single common opponent they played with Carthage. Cuero came 1 yard away from beating Gilmer but still Gilmer won every game of their season by 6 points or more.

Looks legit to me.. Dang, the "what ifs'" will drive you crazy ;)

[oldtownag]

nm

[WOS87]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
1. GILMER
2. CUERO
3. CARTHAGE/GRAHAM
4. NAVASOTA/WYLIE/PITTSBURGH
5. LA GRANGE/SINTON/LL

IN SUM
1. GILMER
2. CUERO
3. CARTHAGE
4. GRAHAM
5. NAVASOTA
6. WYLIE
7. PITT
8. LA GRANGE
9. SINTON
10. LOVEJOY

That 1 point win over 7-5 Silsbee keeps the Rattlers out of my Top 5. ...and yes WO-S lost to Silsbee, there's no point to make there though.

[HEMOTOXIC]

Originally posted by WOS87
That 1 point win over 7-5 Silsbee keeps the Rattlers out of my Top 5. ...and yes WO-S lost to Silsbee, there's no point to make there though.

that's fine. I was a non believer too until I saw the way the Rattlers played the following Saturday. That one game doesn't tell the story of an entire season especially coming off the bye week going into the playoff then playing the district champs, Silsbee Tigers. Im saying it again, someone will believe me someday, it's all about matchups.

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by HEMOTOXIC
That one game doesn't tell the story of an entire season especially coming off the bye week going into the playoff then playing the district champs, Silsbee Tigers. Im saying it again, someone will believe me someday, it's all about matchups.

I guess winning all 16 games this season and 29 in a row doesn't tell a story either!

[N4SIR]

It tells the story thay your second behind Gilmer. What don't you understand?

[oldtownag]

Originally posted by N4SIR
1. Gilmer
2. Cuero
3. Carthage
4. Graham
5. La Grange

Whose with me?

So did you change your mind?

[BwdLions]

Originally posted by 1st&10
Pittsburg would have to be in the top five. Graham beat them in the last 2 minutes on a bad snap over the punters head...Just a thought

You're right, it was an accident to omit them. They'd definitely be somewhere around 5 or 6.

[N4SIR]

Originally posted by oldtownag
So did you change your mind? Nope. Cuero is definitely #2 behind the Buckeyes and then Carthage.

[Old Cardinal]

.....It is real simple Carthage and Gilmer are tied at the top and the rest is a wash; probably 8 good teams with 5 of those from Region III.:D