padilla realignment prediction

[cotulla]

Anyone else see this email?

5A - 245 2059+
4A - 222 1042-2058
3A - 201 433-1035
2A, D-I - 100 300-432
2A, D-II - 101 211-297
1A, D-I - 90 153-210
1A, D-II - 90 100-152
1049 total teams

[95mustang]

Thats a large gap for 3A. I don't think there will be that much of a gap but it is the UIL and they are not known for sensible decisions.

[BEAST]

Originally posted by 95mustang
Thats a large gap for 3A. I don't think there will be that much of a gap but it is the UIL and they are not known for sensible decisions.


I agree. All other classifications have close to a 2:1 ratio or less. Those numbers give 3A almost a 2.5:1 ratio. Who knows? We all are just going to have play the hand we will be dealt.




BEAST

[Matthew328]

As it always is with 3A you either have open districts or a slightly larger gap.

[Black_Magic]

didnt they increase the number of 5A to plus 16??? IF so wouldnt that trickle down through the classifications?

[3afan]

the 3A ratio has been a problems for years now ... no easy solution

[Sville]

He has Stephenville in 6-3A with Mineral Wells, Hillsboro, Glen Rose, Alvarado, and Venus.

Stepp has us in the same district but with Kennedale replacing Mineral Wells.

[Black_Magic]

post the link..

[Sville]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
post the link..

Padilla Poll is a subscription service delivered in email form.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by Sville
Padilla Poll is a subscription service delivered in email form.

Can u copy and paste it here?

[Sville]

Originally posted by Deuce
Can u copy and paste it here?

No, sorry. I don't think Carl minds me posting the tidbits I did about Stephenville but he would mind if the whole thing got posted. The OP posted his projected cutoff numbers above.

[cr180t]

Where is matt's district picks

[Pick6]

I think Padilla is wrong way more than he is right. I would guess his top # is to high.

[wyliefan]

Here is 3A. (found this posted on another site)

[Sville]

Originally posted by cr180t
Where is matt's district picks

He hasn't posted them on TOC yet. He called me and told me what they were. He said he was going to wait until all the state championship games were finished but would have them up before the new year.

[44INAROW]

dang, if that's right - "Cuero be going Div2" ;)

[marler1972]

He needs to stay away from the BONG PIPE.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by 44INAROW
dang, if that's right - "Cuero be going Div2" ;)

Cuero in Region III?! Cuero's NEVER been in Region III.

[Sville]

I was more interested in the cutoff numbers than the district predictions. Those can get dicey but if one has the the enrollment numbers for most of the schools, you can get pretty close to the cutoff numbers.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by WOS87
Cuero in Region III?! Cuero's NEVER been in Region III.
that could make things real interesting :p

[GrTigers6]

Thats messed up. in District 6 they put us with 4 former 4A's all still over the 2008 4A enrollment. of course in 06 they said we would be with Abilene Wylie, Early, snyder,sweetwater, comanche, and eastland. and it wasnt anywhere close.

[bobcat4life]

we will never win a state title again!!

[bigwood33]

He has 15 schools listed with enrollments over 980 as 3A schools. If you took those out and put them up into 4A and left the districts alone (his predicted districts) you would have 2- 4 team districts, 7- 5 team districts and there would only be 1- 8 team district in 3A. That would put 237 teams in 4A and leave 3A with 186 schools. Now, that DOES make some sense. No one likes having 4 team or 8 team districts but that is better than playing someone that is 2.5 times bigger than you are. Houston is probably still the wild card. If the Houston schools play in 3A, that probably helps keep us about a 1 to 2.25 ratio.

[STANG RED]

I still and have long said, there should be a 6A, maybe even a 7A. It is rediculous to ask schools of less than 450, to play schools of near or above 1000. Especially for those of us who dont have metro messes to pull kids from.

[bigwood33]

But since the UIL has rejected the 6A idea, it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks...even if it makes sense.

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by STANG RED
It is rediculous to ask schools of less than 450, to play schools of near or above 1000.
It's all about participation. Celina usually has around 150 boys out for football. Two seasons ago, Burnet had 26 on Varsity - playing in 4A.

[WOS87]

WOS had less than 40 this year and 18 of them made All-District...

[STANG RED]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
It's all about participation. Celina usually has around 150 boys out for football. Two seasons ago, Burnet had 26 on Varsity - playing in 4A.

Celina is a stones throw from Dallas. Many of those moms and dads work in Dallas, but want there kids at Celina (cant blame them for that, I would to), but you cant use Celina as an example that even comes close to the reality most 3A towns are about. Having that metro to draw from, makes a world of difference. Celina has just made the best of an ideal situation.

[BOCEPHUS]

Originally posted by wyliefan
Here is 3A. (found this posted on another site)

HAVING LAMPASAS AND PROGRESO IN THE SAME REGION JUST FUNNY RIGHT THERE............411 MILES ONE WAY

[Twirling Time]

That looks like an alignment that Celina gerrymandered by themselves.

Region I ... no Prosper ... no Argyle ... no Frisco schools ... In fact it looks as though Celina and Van Alstyne were flipped.

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by BOCEPHUS
HAVING LAMPASAS AND PROGRESO IN THE SAME REGION JUST FUNNY RIGHT THERE............411 MILES ONE WAY

411 miles is no big deal for teams in a region. Heck take a look at how far it is from any of the teams in district 8 to the teams in district 1 right now! Also, no one in San Angelo would feel sorry for Lampasas or Progresso unless they were in the same district. San Angelo has been in the same DISTRICT with Amarillo schools for several years now and that is over 300 miles. How would you like to make that trip for basketball, volleyball, softball, or baseball when it is a Tuesday game!!! Again I say, distance in the region is no big deal.

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by bigwood33
411 miles is no big deal for teams in a region. Heck take a look at how far it is from any of the teams in district 8 to the teams in district 1 right now!

HAHA, don't use "District 8" as an example because that's stupid too... Cuero to Wimberley is about a 90 minute drive... one is in District 8 and the other in District 29...

No, distance in a region isn't a big deal when you live out in BFE, but when there are about 6 different schools within 200 miles of you that you could be in the same district with it just seems stupid...

[Sweetwater Red]

Looks like he put alot of effort into projecting the new "2-3A".
Lose Breckenridge and gain Big Spring and that's it? If that
happens I'll eat my socks.:doh:

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by bigwood33
But since the UIL has rejected the 6A idea, it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks...even if it makes sense. They can add teams to 5A... IF they ad 16 teams to 5A it changes BIG TIME.... The ratio would be the same as we have now.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by Gobbla2001
HAHA, don't use "District 8" as an example because that's stupid too... Cuero to Wimberley is about a 90 minute drive... one is in District 8 and the other in District 29...

No, distance in a region isn't a big deal when you live out in BFE, but when there are about 6 different schools within 200 miles of you that you could be in the same district with it just seems stupid...

Cuero and Wimberley have been in a district before....early 90's i think.

[NastySlot]

Originally posted by BOCEPHUS
HAVING LAMPASAS AND PROGRESO IN THE SAME REGION JUST FUNNY RIGHT THERE............411 MILES ONE WAY


why if regional tournaments are in San Antonio...trip is not that far for Lampasas.......if they played a football playoff and met half way in would 205.5 miles.


District 8 football and all sports last year were in region I...with panhandle and far west texas schools..........regional track meet was in Lubbock..

[bigwood33]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
They can add teams to 5A... IF they ad 16 teams to 5A it changes BIG TIME.... The ratio would be the same as we have now.

No they (UIL) can't. By RULE the maximum number of schools allowed in 5A is 245. It would require a vote by the superintendents of the current 5A schools to make a change and those elections are help in Oct and that didn't happen this past year.

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by bigwood33
No they (UIL) can't. By RULE the maximum number of schools allowed in 5A is 245. It would require a vote by the superintendents of the current 5A schools to make a change and those elections are help in Oct and that didn't happen this past year. The way I understood it was that they did approve that raise. Just have not officialy dont it. I could be wrong but I think they can do it this realignment.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by NastySlot
Cuero and Wimberley have been in a district before....early 90's i think.

yep - 1994 and 1995

[Matthew328]

Problem with West Texas in 3A is there's not many schools to go around

Here's your list

Anthony
Clint
EP Bowie
Fabens
Clint Mt View
Fort Stockton
Pecos
Monahans
Andrews
Brownfield
Lamesa
Levelland
Midland Greenwood
Seminole
Borger
Dalhart
Pampa
Lubb Cooper
Lubb Estacado
Pampa
Perryton
Ab Wylie
Big Spring
Sweetwater
Snyder

Fringe schools
Brownwood
Graham
Stephenville (maybe)

You got 4 districts to work with....lets see some realigning people!

[Sville]

Originally posted by Black_Magic
The way I understood it was that they did approve that raise. Just have not officialy dont it. I could be wrong but I think they can do it this realignment.

No sir, 5A can not have more than 245.

"This critical stage is done according to the policies previously determined by the Legislative Council.
Beginning with Conference 5A, procedures allow staff to take no more than 245 schools into 5A."

http://leaguer.uil.utexas.edu/index...ate-oct-15.html

[Black_Magic]

Originally posted by Sville
No sir, 5A can not have more than 245.

"This critical stage is done according to the policies previously determined by the Legislative Council.
Beginning with Conference 5A, procedures allow staff to take no more than 245 schools into 5A."

http://leaguer.uil.utexas.edu/index...ate-oct-15.html we will see soon enough wont we.

[bobcat4life]

region one has been a problem for many years now...there just arent enough schools out there.
we have been close to getting put in region one for a while-we even did once in the 90s. I would not be surprised at all for it to happen, unless the U.I.L. sends most central texas teams out west again

[slingshot]

Things could look very different next year... Wylie in the Div II playoffs??? ;) Getting to play Celina in the 2nd round? :thinking:

[banderafan]

Originally posted by WOS87
WOS had less than 40 this year and 18 of them made All-District...

Bandera had 28 listed on the varsity program in the begining of the year. Two of those never played due to injury, and one was moved down to JV until later in the season. Most games we had 22 to 24 players under helmet. With more than 800 in our enrollment, I'm not sure why we don't have better participation. Even 2A Lago Vista had over 40 kids on varsity when we played them. In Padilla's projected districts, we would be the fourth largest enrollment in the district. We are usually the largest.

[Twirling Time]

Originally posted by slingshot
Things could look very different next year... Wylie in the Div II playoffs??? ;) Getting to play Celina in the 2nd round? :thinking:

If this alignment holds, the soonest they could play would be the 3rd round. And Celina could go D-I in that league. I'm still not sold on either Gainesville or Sanger making the playoffs.

[bobcat4life]

Originally posted by Twirling Time
If this alignment holds, the soonest they could play would be the 3rd round. And Celina could go D-I in that league. I'm still not sold on either Gainesville or Sanger making the playoffs.
we could go D-1 and have to play stephenville. talk about a nightmare lol