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eagleqb_14
12-13-2009, 01:27 PM
this will be a good game HOPEFULLY! :D

forum_guy
12-13-2009, 02:28 PM
31-17 chargers

PHS Wildcats
12-13-2009, 02:55 PM
Chargers

GrTigers6
12-13-2009, 03:50 PM
Cowboys in a close one 28-21

eagles_victory
12-13-2009, 05:15 PM
terrible play calling on that QB sneak anyone?

formermbcouns
12-13-2009, 05:24 PM
Get rid of Folk...he's done.

Daddy D 11
12-13-2009, 05:25 PM
Cowboys are the best at frustrating the living crap out of you.

XtremeCouture
12-13-2009, 06:32 PM
ware taken off the field by stretcher

XtremeCouture
12-13-2009, 06:37 PM
3rd and 12 and of course san diego converts and then score the next play. 17-10 SD

eagles_victory
12-13-2009, 06:47 PM
I defended him hard last week but Romo hasn't been very good today.

Old Tiger
12-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
I defended him hard last week but Romo hasn't been very good today. Yup...throwing into coverage is never any good.

NastySlot
12-13-2009, 06:49 PM
this isn't looking too good.........let me see the cowboys have not scored a touchdown in the first half of their last three games?

hookandladder
12-13-2009, 07:08 PM
Dallas offense 4th quarter-21 yards, Is this the QB's fault.

NastySlot
12-13-2009, 07:11 PM
cowboys should play like each series is the final two minutes.

Keith7
12-13-2009, 07:11 PM
here's where Romo pads his stats so all the Romosexuals can say "It wasn't romo's fault, he threw for 300 yards"

hookandladder
12-13-2009, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
here's where Romo pads his stats so all the Romosexuals can say "It wasn't romo's fault, he threw for 300 yards"

You got that right.

eagles_victory
12-13-2009, 07:19 PM
better football team won dallas got their male reproductive organs kicked in the dirt in all 3 aspects of the game.

GrTigers6
12-13-2009, 07:45 PM
explain to me how this is Romo's fault?

formermbcouns
12-13-2009, 08:28 PM
All Cowboys fans, including myself, should come to grips that this is just a mediocre team. Romo is a mediocre qb, and Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett are not especially good coaches. None of these guys know how to win "big" games.

Jerry Jones better start worrying how he's going to pay for that 1.5 billion dollar "Jerryland". I see lots of people deciding that it's not worth paying ridiculous amounts of money to watch a mediocre team every year.

King_LeYoeNidas
12-13-2009, 08:59 PM
coaching lost this game. Running the SAME FOUR PLAYS from inside the two and no points when you have Jason Witten who can catch ANYTHING within 3 yards? Sorry. Cowboys as PLAYERS did their part but the coaching was absolutely terrible, same as last week. Last week they forgot about the run game, this week they remember the run game but make retarded decisions on when to utilize it. If Dallas plays their game well, they WILL beat the Saints next week. NO is not as good as everyone thinks.

NateDawg39
12-13-2009, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by King_LeYoeNidas
coaching lost this game. Running the SAME FOUR PLAYS from inside the two and no points when you have Jason Witten who can catch ANYTHING within 3 yards? Sorry. Cowboys as PLAYERS did their part but the coaching was absolutely terrible, same as last week. Last week they forgot about the run game, this week they remember the run game but make retarded decisions on when to utilize it. If Dallas plays their game well, they WILL beat the Saints next week. NO is not as good as everyone thinks. No they are not...but they have something the Cowboys do not have, and that would be the ability to finish

gobblerfan34
12-13-2009, 10:03 PM
new coaches, new players and new owner/general manager needed

new coaches will be brought in but head coach will have to be a puppet for jerry jones, so we can expect the same year after year until jerry finally turns it over to his son stephen, who i think will have the good sense to hire quality football people and get out of the way and let them do their jobs

the cowboys are not much better than an average football team with below average coaching and below average front office, how many rookies are making an impact this year, really nobody except the kickoff specialist, this will only set us back in the future no matter who is coaching

another disappointing season from the cowboys

statewide
12-13-2009, 10:08 PM
It wasn't Romo's fault, just because the qb is the team leader on offense, just because on 3rd and 12, he throws it 8 every time to pad stat's, throws screen passes to defensive linemen 3 feet in front of him. It's not poor Romo's fault. Cowboys won superbowls with Staubach and Aikman and will never win one again until a QB is found.

piratebg
12-13-2009, 10:17 PM
This game came down to a goal line stand and another poor showing from Nick Folk. Romo played well enough to win this but the coaches took the ball out of his hands inside the 5yd line for 4 straight plays.

forum_guy
12-13-2009, 10:57 PM
I just keep laughing to myself because the same things were happening last year and everyone blamed T.O.

No one knows who to blame this year. Not hating but i have always thought from the beginning of this year they are just a mediocre team.

DDBooger
12-13-2009, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by forum_guy
I just keep laughing to myself because the same things were happening last year and everyone blamed T.O.

No one knows who to blame this year. Not hating but i have always thought from the beginning of this year they are just a mediocre team.
about as close to the truth as an opinion can get. That THEY are, mediocre.

Txbroadcaster
12-13-2009, 11:42 PM
I thought going into the season the Cowboys were just like about 60% of the NFL ..if things fall right injuries and such they can finish 10-6,11-5..if things dont fall right 8-8...Here we are and they still can reach all three records.

coach
12-14-2009, 12:00 AM
who ever says tht romo played poor today than they are just plain ignorant....if the idiot kicker makes a chip shot...the game is in ot...if they score on the goaline...the boys win.....once again the 3adl iq is terrible....how about the pass coverage?...how about on 3rd and 12 they stop somebody?

coach
12-14-2009, 12:01 AM
and down by 10 with 2 min left is not padding your stats lol...i have seen it done several times that a team comes back from that

coach
12-14-2009, 12:08 AM
61-86 651 yrds 5 Tds and 0 Ints in the month of december for tony romo...damn he sucks and its his fault for the 2 game slide

Keith7
12-14-2009, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by coach
61-86 651 yrds 5 Tds and 0 Ints in the month of december for tony romo...damn he sucks and its his fault for the 2 game slide

about 200 of those yards and two Tds came when facing prevent defenses at the end of games

eagles_victory
12-14-2009, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by coach
who ever says tht romo played poor today than they are just plain ignorant....if the idiot kicker makes a chip shot...the game is in ot...if they score on the goaline...the boys win.....once again the 3adl iq is terrible....how about the pass coverage?...how about on 3rd and 12 they stop somebody?


I must be an idiot because Tony Romo didn't play a good game today average maybe but good no. You take that last drive away he throws for 180 yards and 1 td with about 3 dropped picks. That last drive was complete garbage bend but dont break time. San Diego let them have the middle of the field short the whole time because they knew they didnt have any timeouts.

statewide
12-14-2009, 06:02 AM
I think it's amazing that the media that doesn't like the boys anyway, annoint Romo and then so many on here just quote what they here. If you are studying the game, not repeating stat's you can see it is the key plays that he kills you with. New qb please.

GrTigers6
12-14-2009, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by statewide
I think it's amazing that the media that doesn't like the boys anyway, annoint Romo and then so many on here just quote what they here. If you are studying the game, not repeating stat's you can see it is the key plays that he kills you with. New qb please. Examples?

GrTigers6
12-14-2009, 06:49 AM
Romo did what he could with what garrett gave him. Im all for running the ball but not 11 plays in a row. thats just asking for trouble. you think someone with an ivy league education could figure that out.:thinking:

GrTigers6
12-14-2009, 06:55 AM
Play calling on both sides of the ball are what killed the boys. you have to mix up your plays. keep them guessing. Did anyone see a blitz up the middle. or a delayed blitz. come on phillips, you used to be the best at that.

coach
12-14-2009, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by eagles_victory
I must be an idiot because Tony Romo didn't play a good game today average maybe but good no. You take that last drive away he throws for 180 yards and 1 td with about 3 dropped picks. That last drive was complete garbage bend but dont break time. San Diego let them have the middle of the field short the whole time because they knew they didnt have any timeouts.

im just saying this should be blmammed way more on the d and garret

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 10:05 AM
There are tons of people to blame for this loss. I start with the owner and work my way down to the lowest part of the team. The Coach did exactly what we have watched him do for his whole career! The OC did what we have grown to expect from him! The DC did his thing and the team did their thing! I was not surprised by this outcome. I told everyone last week it would happen and it will be followed by probably 2 more loses to give the team a season record of 9-7 and missing the playoffs. (Again).
Dispite being "Ignorant", as Coach is so fond of saying, some of us have already figured this thing out. If you believe that the team is what it's record says it is then this team is probably mediocre. But if you are knowledgable about football you will realize they are being LEAD to mediocrity.

forum_guy
12-14-2009, 10:08 AM
why dont you fans blame T.O. ???

Oh wait you can't this year.

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by coach
im just saying this should be blmammed way more on the d and garret




San Diego averages 28 points a game and the D held them to 20.
The Charger defense averages giving up 20 points a game and Dallas scored 17. (Really only 10 because the last score was a gimme).

JasperDog94
12-14-2009, 10:10 AM
I guess it's Romo's fault that Folk missed that fieldgoal. And I suppose it's Romo's fault that they called 4 straight running plays and didn't get in the endzone in the first half...:rolleyes:

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by JasperDog94
I guess it's Romo's fault that Folk missed that fieldgoal. And I suppose it's Romo's fault that they called 4 straight running plays and didn't get in the endzone in the first half...:rolleyes:





Naw!!! But it is Romo's fault that he throws into triple coverage on third and goal which causes Folk to have to try the FG. And the 4 straight running plays were a result of Garrett getting his arse handed to him earlier in the year because he called passes on the goaline that ROMO could not complete. Garrett can only call the plays. Romo and the offense MUST execute them.

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 11:04 AM
Something tells me that if Dallas could have scored 30 points agianst SD then the Chargers WOULD have scored 35.

Basically SD did what it had to do to win. The stats look good for the Dallas D as far as total yards and such, but IMO SD had their way with them. Especially in that 4thQ. The two LONG drives killed Dallas.

After Dallas tied with the 99 yd drive, THAT is when a great D steps up and makes the plays. Instead they give up a 39 yd pass play on 3rd and 12.

coach
12-14-2009, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Something tells me that if Dallas could have scored 30 points agianst SD then the Chargers WOULD have scored 35.

Basically SD did what it had to do to win. The stats look good for the Dallas D as far as total yards and such, but IMO SD had their way with them. Especially in that 4thQ. The two LONG drives killed Dallas.

After Dallas tied with the 99 yd drive, THAT is when a great D steps up and makes the plays. Instead they give up a 39 yd pass play on 3rd and 12.

you are wrong tx....it was romos fault for not deflecting that pass

Keith7
12-14-2009, 12:41 PM
Wow the romosexuals are in full force today

GrTigers6
12-14-2009, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Keith7
Wow the romosexuals are in full force today You know your one of them Keith! :D

forum_guy
12-14-2009, 01:10 PM
its T.O's fault guys :rolleyes:

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Something tells me that if Dallas could have scored 30 points agianst SD then the Chargers WOULD have scored 35.

Basically SD did what it had to do to win. The stats look good for the Dallas D as far as total yards and such, but IMO SD had their way with them. Especially in that 4thQ. The two LONG drives killed Dallas.

After Dallas tied with the 99 yd drive, THAT is when a great D steps up and makes the plays. Instead they give up a 39 yd pass play on 3rd and 12.



As bad as you think the defense played, they did hold San Diego to their lowest points this season. So at the very least this defense is a little above average. Since the Chargers defense averages giving up 20 points a game this season then the Dallas offense was WAY below the average. They only managed the last touchdown when SD dropped back into a prevent and gave up tons of yardage. I think we all can see where the problems lie!

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
As bad as you think the defense played, they did hold San Diego to their lowest points this season. So at the very least this defense is a little above average. Since the Chargers defense averages giving up 20 points a game this season then the Dallas offense was WAY below the average. They only managed the last touchdown when SD dropped back into a prevent and gave up tons of yardage. I think we all can see where the problems lie!


again..SD only needed to score 20 points so that is all they did. Norv has always been a HC or OC that simply would do what it takes to win and not worry about looking good doing it or scoring 35 points everygame.

Those two drives in the 4thQ shows Dallas's D is not ready to be considered great. They held the ball 10 minutes in the 4thQ. converted a couple of LONG 3rd downs and kept the chains moving. I swear it looked like Dallas in the early 90's with how they were moving the chains

The Dallas O was not great and in no way saying they were..but that 99 yard drive to tie the game is what a play-off offense does..it went back onto the D to get the ball back, and they could not. Simple as that

Trashman
12-14-2009, 02:57 PM
Dallas is done....:(

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
again..SD only needed to score 20 points so that is all they did. Norv has always been a HC or OC that simply would do what it takes to win and not worry about looking good doing it or scoring 35 points everygame.

Those two drives in the 4thQ shows Dallas's D is not ready to be considered great. They held the ball 10 minutes in the 4thQ. converted a couple of LONG 3rd downs and kept the chains moving. I swear it looked like Dallas in the early 90's with how they were moving the chains

The Dallas O was not great and in no way saying they were..but that 99 yard drive to tie the game is what a play-off offense does..it went back onto the D to get the ball back, and they could not. Simple as that



Oh Ok! I didn't know that the Chargers simply didn't WANT to score any more points. My bad! I stand corrected!

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 03:10 PM
The Chargers and the Cowboys played almost an identical game. Rushing yards, passing yards, first downs, penalties, turnovers and every other stats was almost identical. And neither team scored their season average for points. So that looks like to me it was a defensive game and both defenses played a very tough game. But ONE QB made plays when they counted and the other did not! Care to guess which was which?????

NO OTHER DEFENSE THIS SEASON HAS HELD SD TO 20 POINTS!!!!
And only about 4 times has another team scored fewer than 17 points against the Charger defense.

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Oh Ok! I didn't know that the Chargers simply didn't WANT to score any more points. My bad! I stand corrected!


You know exactly what I mean..Norv did when he was in Dallas..get out in front and make the other team play catch up. Grind them down in the 4thQ and get out with the win. That is exactly what SD did. When they needed a big conversion they just simply threw it up and over our CB..something they could have done all day long

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
The Chargers and the Cowboys played almost an identical game. Rushing yards, passing yards, first downs, penalties, turnovers and every other stats was almost identical. And neither team scored their season average for points. So that looks like to me it was a defensive game and both defenses played a very tough game. But ONE QB made plays when they counted and the other did not! Care to guess which was which?????

NO OTHER DEFENSE THIS SEASON HAS HELD SD TO 20 POINTS!!!!
And only about 4 times has another team scored fewer than 17 points against the Charger defense.

Look you have proven your going to blast Romo and blame him no matter what so go ahead and do it. I do know that Romo drove the team 99 yards to tie the game..Then the D gave it RIGHT back to SD.

Farmersfan
12-14-2009, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Look you have proven your going to blast Romo and blame him no matter what so go ahead and do it. I do know that Romo drove the team 99 yards to tie the game..Then the D gave it RIGHT back to SD.





And you have proven that you will give him a pass even when he produces WAY below his season average and loses the game. The defense handled the Chargers offense better than any defence has so far this season. Chargers offense Raked #14 and Chargers defense ranked #12. Dallas offense ranked #3 and Dallas defense ranked #14.

Which group should have handled their opponents better yesterday???????????????????

Now! Which group did???????? Case closed!

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
And you have proven that you will give him a pass even when he produces WAY below his season average and loses the game. The defense handled the Chargers offense better than any defence has so far this season. Chargers offense Raked #14 and Chargers defense ranked #12. Dallas offense ranked #3 and Dallas defense ranked #14.

Which group should have handled their opponents better yesterday???????????????????

Now! Which group did???????? Case closed!


I SAID the offense was not great..but your hanging on stats of a game that anyone that saw the game can tell you the Dallas D COULD NOT..repeat COULD NOT stop The Chargers..TWO long drives in the 4thQ killed

it was 10-10 going into the 4th..GREAT defenses rise up..They did not. And it is a trend that has shown for the last couple of years

Remember BOTH Giants games( the first as bad as Romo played he gave Dallas a lead late in the 4thQ)

The Denver game? ( people seem to remember Romo and the last 2 plays, but FORGET that the D gave up a lead)

And that has been my whole point for two years now..People want to latch a loss into Romo so quick and put all the blame at him( and last year TO) that people seem to forget this defense is TERRIBLE in the 4th Q

BTW Dallas has the 6th ranked D in ppg

GrTigers6
12-14-2009, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
And you have proven that you will give him a pass even when he produces WAY below his season average and loses the game. The defense handled the Chargers offense better than any defence has so far this season. Chargers offense Raked #14 and Chargers defense ranked #12. Dallas offense ranked #3 and Dallas defense ranked #14.

Which group should have handled their opponents better yesterday???????????????????

Now! Which group did???????? Case closed! His passer rating was 111.7 from yesterday. His average is 96 How is that below?

JasperDog94
12-14-2009, 04:37 PM
Maybe Romo could hold AND kick the ball. Maybe he could run the ball as well when they were 1st and goal and couldn't punch it in. Or maybe, just maybe we ask everyone on the team to step up and make some plays as well. But that's probably just crazy talk.

Maroon87
12-14-2009, 04:45 PM
The defense gave up entirely too many big plays. Unless Romo plays defense then he shouldn't get the majority of the blame.

He was far from perfect, make no mistake, but this guy could pass for 400 yds and 4 TD's in the Super Bowl and some of you would find a reason to trash him. It's pretty silly if you ask me.

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 04:48 PM
In Sunday's win against the Dallas Cowboys, San Diego converted twice on third-and-12 and once on third-and-eight. This was not an aberration.

For the season, Cowboys' opponents have converted four times in seven chances on third-and-12, an abnormally high rate. In the last five games, Cowboys' opponents are 11-for-34 on third-and-eight or longer, also higher than the league average.


This shows a D that cannot make the play when needed.

sinfan75
12-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Dallas has a new coach/coaches next year and several new players. If the man in charge don't get a man in charge type coach Dallas is a has-been type team until the man in charge sells the team.

forum_guy
12-14-2009, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by sinfan75
Dallas has a new coach/coaches next year and several new players. If the man in charge don't get a man in charge type coach Dallas is a has-been type team until the man in charge sells the team.

the man in charge of the man in charge aka Jerry Jones doesn't care about W's. It's all about the $$$$$$$$$ and he is still making it.

Txbroadcaster
12-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by forum_guy
the man in charge of the man in charge aka Jerry Jones doesn't care about W's. It's all about the $$$$$$$$$ and he is still making it.

disagree 1000%..Hate him or like him...Jerry WANTS to win..he just cannot accept that the best way for Dallas to win is him to take a step back..He tried doing that for Parcells but the success did not happen so he became more hands on

sinfan75
12-14-2009, 10:09 PM
Dallas needs a coach that ain't lookin at retirement in a couple years. Might be a couple out there interested? Late 40's/50's? Kick your ass attitude? Gruden? Shanahan? Singletary?

statewide
12-14-2009, 11:39 PM
We have a coach, we call him Mr. Jones.

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
I SAID the offense was not great..but your hanging on stats of a game that anyone that saw the game can tell you the Dallas D COULD NOT..repeat COULD NOT stop The Chargers..TWO long drives in the 4thQ killed

it was 10-10 going into the 4th..GREAT defenses rise up..They did not. And it is a trend that has shown for the last couple of years

Remember BOTH Giants games( the first as bad as Romo played he gave Dallas a lead late in the 4thQ)

The Denver game? ( people seem to remember Romo and the last 2 plays, but FORGET that the D gave up a lead)

And that has been my whole point for two years now..People want to latch a loss into Romo so quick and put all the blame at him( and last year TO) that people seem to forget this defense is TERRIBLE in the 4th Q

BTW Dallas has the 6th ranked D in ppg



How one sided can you be???? Of course the 4th quarter drives killed the Cowboys! But why? Because the offense didn't "Rise up" earlier in the game when the defense held the Chargers, Giants and Broncos in check for 3 quarters. Geez! Why do you EXPECT the defense to "RISE UP" and be great and you accept the offense being mediocre? Can you explain that?
This whole team has problems without a doubt. But to blame the defense more than the offense is ridiculous. The defense is being put out on an island by you people and expected to CARRY this team. They aren't able to do that. But they are able to do well enough to win IF the offense can score a average amount of points. (That's just AVERAGE points!!!!!!!!! Not excessive! AVERAGE!!!!!!).

If the Dallas offfense just scores the exact same amount that every other team in the league scores against these 4 teams they lost to this season the Cowboys are 11-2 right now.
So your logic is flawed Tx! It would be nice if the defense was able to hold the Chargers to 14 points below their average instead of just 8 so the 'boys can win but it's unrealistic thinking.

coach
12-15-2009, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
How one sided can you be???? Of course the 4th quarter drives killed the Cowboys! But why? Because the offense didn't "Rise up" earlier in the game when the defense held the Chargers, Giants and Broncos in check for 3 quarters. Geez! Why do you EXPECT the defense to "RISE UP" and be great and you accept the offense being mediocre? Can you explain that?
This whole team has problems without a doubt. But to blame the defense more than the offense is ridiculous. The defense is being put out on an island by you people and expected to CARRY this team. They aren't able to do that. But they are able to do well enough to win IF the offense can score a average amount of points. (That's just AVERAGE points!!!!!!!!! Not excessive! AVERAGE!!!!!!).

If the Dallas offfense just scores the exact same amount that every other team in the league scores against these 4 teams they lost to this season the Cowboys are 11-2 right now.
So your logic is flawed Tx! It would be nice if the defense was able to hold the Chargers to 14 points below their average instead of just 8 so the 'boys can win but it's unrealistic thinking.

Total offense: 3rd
Total defense: 14

coach
12-15-2009, 11:23 AM
dallas' pass defense is ranked 21 o and tony romo is in the top 10 passer raitings

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by coach
Total offense: 3rd
Total defense: 14



Points per game scored: Dallas #13
Points per game allowed: Dallas #6

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by coach
dallas' pass defense is ranked 21 o and tony romo is in the top 10 passer raitings



Points per game scored: Dallas #13
Points per game allowed: Dallas #6

coach
12-15-2009, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Points per game scored: Dallas #13
Points per game allowed: Dallas #6

thats impressive by the d but how much would the ppg for the offense if we didnt have an idiot kicker

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by coach
dallas' pass defense is ranked 21 o and tony romo is in the top 10 passer raitings



The Cowboys Defense has averaged allowing 18 points a game this season. The Cowboys offense has averaged 25 points a game this season.

Losses:

The two Giants games are the exception where both offense and defense was bad. take those out and here is what you get.

Defense allowed ZERO total points above their 18 point season average.

Offense scored 41 total points BELOW their season average.

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by coach
thats impressive by the d but how much would the ppg for the offense if we didnt have an idiot kicker



Nick Folk: 17-26

At 100% success Folk would have added 27 points to offense output which moves Dallas up to #9 in points scored.

But it seems that the middle of the pack or Average FG kicker completes 85% which would give Folk 15 more points of offfensive output which ranks Dallas at #10 in points scored.

I don't think the FG kicker is the reason the offense can't score.

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
The Cowboys Defense has averaged allowing 18 points a game this season. The Cowboys offense has averaged 25 points a game this season.

Losses:

The two Giants games are the exception where both offense and defense was bad. take those out and here is what you get.

Defense allowed ZERO total points above their 18 point season average.

Offense scored 41 total points BELOW their season average.

You also get a D agianst Denver that allowed a late score AFTER Dallas had went ahead.

Again, not saying the O played great..but Titles are built on your Defense. Agianst play-off teams the O will usually struggle, it is then that the D HAS to make the plays

That is why you see more 20-17, 17-10 type playoff games because when teams are equal who plays better D will win 99% of the time.

AGAIN THE OFFENSE PLAYED BAD agianst the Chargers, but the offense also went 99 yards to tie it up and the D promptly gave it back to em

coach
12-15-2009, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
You also get a D agianst Denver that allowed a late score AFTER Dallas had went ahead.

Again, not saying the O played great..but Titles are built on your Defense. Agianst play-off teams the O will usually struggle, it is then that the D HAS to make the plays

That is why you see more 20-17, 17-10 type playoff games because when teams are equal who plays better D will win 99% of the time.

AGAIN THE OFFENSE PLAYED BAD agianst the Chargers, but the offense also went 99 yards to tie it up and the D promptly gave it back to em

i also think they drove 87 yards on that drive that they faild to get in bc of garrets play calling

DDBooger
12-15-2009, 01:57 PM
this is the never ending argument :D
I know TXB, FF and Coach have different professions, but you all would be expensive lawyers had yall chosen that path lol

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by DDBooger
this is the never ending argument :D
I know TXB, FF and Coach have different professions, but you all would be expensive lawyers had yall chosen that path lol

ur just a liberal pompus jerk:D :D :D :D :D :D

DDBooger
12-15-2009, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
ur just a liberal pompus jerk:D :D :D :D :D :D I like pithy better than pompous! haha :p

DDBooger
12-15-2009, 02:02 PM
If the Boys lose out the month of December, do you all think Wade is gone or will Jerry keep his puppet coach?

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by DDBooger
If the Boys lose out the month of December, do you all think Wade is gone or will Jerry keep his puppet coach?

IMO only way Wade keeps his job is to make it to the NFC Title game

DDBooger
12-15-2009, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
IMO only way Wade keeps his job is to make it to the NFC Title game hell we thought that last year, but yeah, he's gone. And makes you wonder if he goes old school coach or picks at other teams staff.

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by DDBooger
If the Boys lose out the month of December, do you all think Wade is gone or will Jerry keep his puppet coach?




I think the 'boys will go 1-2 in the last 3 games to end the season on a 1-4 streak and not only is Wade gone but so is Garrett. Jerry has put way too much into the new stadium to see it jeopardized by fan disinterest or apathy. He will try to get the excitment up by bringing in another NAME coach. I hope it's Cowher or Shanahan. I could not take Chucky!

But I also believe that even if they go on to win the Superbowl, Wade is gone.

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
I think the 'boys will go 1-2 in the last 3 games to end the season on a 1-4 streak and not only is Wade gone but so is Garrett. Jerry has put way too much into the new stadium to see it jeopardized by fan disinterest or apathy. He will try to get the excitment up by bringing in another NAME coach. I hope it's Cowher or Shanahan. I could not take Chucky!

But I also believe that even if they go on to win the Superbowl, Wade is gone.

U think Wade rides off into the sunset if they somehow win a SB? I could see that as well

Bullaholic
12-15-2009, 03:44 PM
IMO, I bet Jerry has done some groundwork with Shanahan or other high-profile coach, and the whole coaching staff is gone next season if the Cowboys miss the playoffs entirely or go 1-and-done again.

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
IMO, I bet Jerry has done some groundwork with Shanahan or other high-profile coach, and the whole coaching staff is gone next season if the Cowboys miss the playoffs entirely or go 1-and-done again.

Man I dont know..Jones LOVES Garrett and thinks the world of him. I still think odds are high that Garrett gets the HC job.

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
You also get a D agianst Denver that allowed a late score AFTER Dallas had went ahead.

AGAIN THE OFFENSE PLAYED BAD agianst the Chargers, but the offense also went 99 yards to tie it up and the D promptly gave it back to em




Without the defense holding these teams to point totals way below their normal, Dallas isn't even in these games late so they can go 99 yards to tie it up. Of course the Dallas D gave up points to the Chargers. Every defense does. The Chargers are a good team. The goal for the defense is to make the Chargers LESS than the Dallas offfense. The Dallas offense averages 25 points a game for this season and the Dallas D held SD to 20 points. Not only did the offense not score their own season average of 25 points but they didn't score the league's season average against the Chargers of 20 points. The offense didn't even perform adequately enough to be considered AVERAGE against the Chargers, the Broncos or the Packers.

Stop being a mud fence Tx! :D :D

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
U think Wade rides off into the sunset if they somehow win a SB? I could see that as well




I picture him riding a Jackass off into the sunset wearing a sumbrero with people laughing hysterically on both sides of him. In my opinion I think Wade is considered a laughing stock by most in the NFL and most think he didn't really earn his skins. You know? A daddies boy!!!!

Farmersfan
12-15-2009, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Txbroadcaster
Man I dont know..Jones LOVES Garrett and thinks the world of him. I still think odds are high that Garrett gets the HC job.




Jerry Jones over-paid Garrett to get him here and since then has realized that Garrett isn't the "Golden Boy" that he originally thought. Jerry will use the failure of the team to correct this mistake and let Garrett move on to greener pastures. Of course, just like Sean Payton did, Garrett will go somewhere else with a decent QB and be a hero.

Txbroadcaster
12-15-2009, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Farmersfan
Jerry Jones over-paid Garrett to get him here and since then has realized that Garrett isn't the "Golden Boy" that he originally thought. Jerry will use the failure of the team to correct this mistake and let Garrett move on to greener pastures. Of course, just like Sean Payton did, Garrett will go somewhere else with a decent QB and be a hero.

Sean Payton moved on to be a HC because Parcells waited till last possible moment to decide not to come back.

And I really dont think Jones thinks anyless of Garrett

love the last line, but whatever. Red Jesus has been more at fault IMO for offensive struggles this year

Macarthur
12-15-2009, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Bullaholic
IMO, I bet Jerry has done some groundwork with Shanahan or other high-profile coach, and the whole coaching staff is gone next season if the Cowboys miss the playoffs entirely or go 1-and-done again.

A couple of years back, I heard an inteview with JJ and he basically said he always has a list in the back of his pocket because he never knows when someone might get hit by a bus.

So yes, JJ has already been working through his mind what he wants to do, and I'm sure Stephen is very involved in the discussion, as well.