Best 3A district in the state... [Archive]

WOS87

12-11-2009, 11:59 PM

I'm holding out until I see how you guys fare against the likes of Gilmer, Carthage or La Grange...

West Texas doesn't have the best record against East Texas teams in the 3A Finals historically (Vernon over Crockett in '90 was the last and only win in 40 years I believe)

RMAC

12-12-2009, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
I'm holding out until I see how you guys fare against the likes of Gilmer, Carthage or La Grange...

West Texas doesn't have the best record against East Texas teams in the 3A Finals historically (Vernon over Crockett in '90 was the last and only win in 40 years I believe)

I don't know about other folks, but calling Abilene "West Texas is a pretty big stretch, I think. Its like 500 miles to El Paso from Abilene, so that means only 300 or so going east. Shouldn't there be something in between there? Graham is North Texas for sure.

WOS87

12-12-2009, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by RMAC
I don't know about other folks, but calling Abilene "West Texas is a pretty big stretch, I think. Its like 500 miles to El Paso from Abilene, so that means only 300 or so going east. Shouldn't there be something in between there? Graham is North Texas for sure.

Okay... Substitute "West Texas" for ALL Region I teams west of I-35 over the past 40 years. The stat remains the same.

And before someone tries to argue that Southlake is west of I-35 East, I mean west of I-35 and I-35 West where it forks through Fort Worth.

:rolleyes:

Good luck though!!

:)

WOS87

12-12-2009, 12:43 AM

...and after polling about 50 people at the current Christmas party I'm attending here in Houston (while surfing on my laptop) there is 100% consensus that they all think of Abilene as "West Texas" by the way.

I know that doesn't necessarily mean the people of Abilene feel that way. What part of the state do people from Abilene consider themselves a part of if not West Texas? I've asked the same question about Vernon and no one has been able to give me a definitive answer.

ccmom

12-12-2009, 12:59 AM

I was born and raised here in Abilene and I have always considered it West Texas.

Pendragon13

12-12-2009, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
I'm holding out until I see how you guys fare against the likes of Gilmer, Carthage or La Grange...

West Texas doesn't have the best record against East Texas teams in the 3A Finals historically (Vernon over Crockett in '90 was the last and only win in 40 years I believe) Are Gilmer, Carthage and La grange in the same district? He said "best district" not best teams....which is still TBD.;)

WOS87

12-12-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Are Gilmer, Carthage and La grange in the same district? He said "best district" not best teams....which is still TBD.;)

Well if Carthage (or La Grange) and Gilmer were to win by 30+ points each which IMO is a possibility, I'd say there were better 2nd or even 3rd place teams in those districts and they would get my vote.

;)

By the same logic do you think the three 31-5A teams (Harlingen, PSJA North and Edinburg North) that made it all of the way to the final 16 in 5A and subsequently got destroyed by SA and Austin teams makes 31-5A the best district in 5A?

I'm sorry... I'll admit 2-3A has been quite successful this year and I give you guys props! I'm just being the devil's advocate here... :)

Pendragon13

12-12-2009, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
Well if Carthage (or La Grange) and Gilmer were to win by 30+ points each which IMO is a possibility, I'd say there were better 2nd or even 3rd place teams in those districts and they would get my vote.

;)

By the same logic do you think the three 31-5A teams (Harlingen, PSJA North and Edinburg North) that made it all of the way to the final 16 in 5A and subsequently got destroyed by SA and Austin teams makes 31-5A the best district in 5A? Other than Gilmer and Carthage, how many 17-3A or 18-3A teams survived past November?;) Once again...a weak district may have a juggernaut at the top but that doesn't make the rest of the district stronger by association. I honestly believe the 2-3A 4th place team (Snyder) would have done some damage in the playoffs...and they had the same or better record than a few early round teams.

WOS87

12-12-2009, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Other than Gilmer and Carthage, how many 17-3A or 18-3A teams survived past November?;)

None... what does that mean though? How many 2-3A teams have played Gilmer or Carthage closer than 3 TD's yet (as have other members of 17-3A and 18-3A)...

None

Pendragon13

12-12-2009, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
None... what does that mean though? How many 2-3A teams have played Gilmer or Carthage closer than 3 TD's yet...

None I don't think any 2-3A teams have played Gilmer or Carthage yet (that I know of)...Wylie's last crack at Gilmer 2 years ago came down to the wire and was a comeback win for the Buckeyes.

WOS87

12-12-2009, 01:23 AM

Honestly... I wish the best for all involved in the games and AGAIN, 2-3A is close to equalling what 9-3A did last year. If Graham and Wylie BOTH win you will surpass it. Awesome job this year no matter what happens.

Wish I could be there for the games but it would be quite a drive for me.

grahampaw

12-12-2009, 03:13 AM

Lets rename the all district 2-3a team, the All State team with an *

squid

12-12-2009, 09:10 AM

a few years ago some beauracrat or travelers association decided to put Abilene in 'West Central Texas'. Alot of media outlets still run with that. Fort Worth used to use the slogan 'Where the west begins'. Most folks here say West Texas.

And El Paso is closer to Phoenix than us anyway......:rolleyes:

Rustler

12-12-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
...and after polling about 50 people at the current Christmas party I'm attending here in Houston (while surfing on my laptop) there is 100% consensus that they all think of Abilene as "West Texas" by the way.

I know that doesn't necessarily mean the people of Abilene feel that way. What part of the state do people from Abilene consider themselves a part of if not West Texas? I've asked the same question about Vernon and no one has been able to give me a definitive answer.

West Texas, Where the people are proud, say Hello to their neighbors and most of all Believe in "One Nation Under God".

turbostud

12-12-2009, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by WOS87
By the same logic do you think the three 31-5A teams (Harlingen, PSJA North and Edinburg North) that made it all of the way to the final 16 in 5A and subsequently got destroyed by SA and Austin teams makes 31-5A the best district in 5A?

I dont think anyone would think that, but on a side note, that district was picked as the worst 5A district in the state this year at the beginning of the year by (I think) texashsfootball.

injuredinmelee

12-12-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Rustler
West Texas, Where the people are proud, say Hello to their neighbors and most of all Believe in "One Nation Under God".

amen district brother...

Footballhudini

12-12-2009, 09:55 AM

d32 is by far the toughest district

N4SIR

12-12-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Rustler
West Texas, Where the people are proud, say Hello to their neighbors and most of all Believe in "One Nation Under God". A big AMEN to that, but I think that would apply to most of TEXAS. Proud to be an American but thankful most of all God made me a Texan. Good people, good food and the coutnry's best high school football bar none!!!

Pudlugger

12-12-2009, 10:04 AM

D25. Bellville was 4th and Smithville 5th. Both those teams would likely have advanced at least a round in the playoffs. Sealy lost to eventual semi-finalist Cuero and Giddings got mugged by a hot Brookshire Royal team surprising everyone in round one. La Grange was 3rd in district and playing the D2 semi-final tonight. Got to give D25 some props.

NastySlot

12-12-2009, 11:50 AM

Rocket

12-12-2009, 01:41 PM

Not to mention that District 2-3A had 3 Co-Champions and a strong favorite to win it all next season (Brownwood).

Daddy D 11

12-12-2009, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Rocket
Not to mention that District 2-3A had 3 Co-Champions and a strong favorite to win it all next season (Brownwood).

Indeed.

wimbo_pro

12-12-2009, 01:54 PM

WildTexan972

12-12-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by Pendragon13
Other than Gilmer and Carthage, how many 17-3A or 18-3A teams survived past November?;) Once again...a weak district may have a juggernaut at the top but that doesn't make the rest of the district stronger by association. I honestly believe the 2-3A 4th place team (Snyder) would have done some damage in the playoffs...and they had the same or better record than a few early round teams.

sure Snyder could have done "some damage" in the playoffs....when all ya gotta play is those weak Region 1 teams you always have a shot at winning...

Spread It Out

12-12-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Rocket
Not to mention that District 2-3A had 3 Co-Champions and a strong favorite to win it all next season (Brownwood).

You get more and more dumb each time you post.:rolleyes:

Rocket

12-12-2009, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by Spread It Out
You get more and more dumb each time you post.:rolleyes:

What I stated is a fact, you moron.

Keith7

12-12-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by WOS87
Okay... Substitute "West Texas" for ALL Region I teams west of I-35 over the past 40 years. The stat remains the same.

And before someone tries to argue that Southlake is west of I-35 East, I mean west of I-35 and I-35 West where it forks through Fort Worth.

:rolleyes:

Good luck though!!

:)

No wonder Gainesville got better this year, their new high school is west of I-35

WildTexan972

12-12-2009, 07:46 PM

the only moron in the state that thinks brownwood is a favorite to win anything next year is Racket....

in his weak mind they have been the favorite for 2 years and so far only have 1 playoff trip to show for it....

crabman

12-12-2009, 10:20 PM

Cuero's games against Yoakum and Edna were tougher than anything we ran across in the playoffs up until the Gilmer game. The top 3 in District 28 were tough. The next 3 were laughable.

lulu

12-12-2009, 10:45 PM

Cuero is the real deal for sure.

WOS87

12-12-2009, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by WOS87
How many 2-3A teams have played Gilmer or Carthage closer than 3 TD's yet (as have other members of 17-3A and 18-3A)...

None

Okay Wylie, you beat the spread!! :D

Congrats on a great season and a great decade!

lulu

12-12-2009, 11:03 PM

Wiley played a full game and never quit.

turbostud

12-12-2009, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by WildTexan972
the only moron in the state that thinks brownwood is a favorite to win anything next year is Racket....

in his weak mind they have been the favorite for 2 years and so far only have 1 playoff trip to show for it....

But he sure knows how to ride the coat tails of Graham and Wylie, the real teams of that district.

Spread It Out

12-13-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Rocket
What I stated is a fact, you moron.

I think you've got FACT and OPINION mixed up. Obviously being a favorite in your eyes doesn't mean $h!t because they've been yours to win it since y'all have been in 3A and you've only made one trip to the playoffs.

BTW-- You have to actually advance to the playoffs to win a state championship. <-- That's a FACT.