DII Semi-Final: Graham vs Pittsburg

[Z-RO]

Who punches in their ticket to the state championship game?

[poisoned10]

No disrespect meant towards my Pitt neighbors, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't completely shocked at how far they have made it.

Good Luck next week against Graham!

[Matthew328]

Any word on when/where??? Friday night in DFW sounds great!

[Looking4number8]

Of course I voted for my D2 brothers. Graham is playing lights out right now and I dont think anybody but Graham can stop Graham

[Sweetwater Red]

Originally posted by Matthew328
Any word on when/where??? Friday night in DFW sounds great!

I just got a text. It reads "Firday 7 in Mansfield". I'd tell you who
sent it but I don't want ccmom to think I am making fun of her. :D :devil:

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
I just got a text. It reads "Firday 7 in Mansfield". I'd tell you who
sent it but I don't want ccmom to think I am making fun of her. :D :devil: 7 on a Friday:confused: :confused: Wow, it would seem that a semi final game would be played on a Saturday where more casual fans could attend. I would like to see this game, but I am not gonna miss work to do it:rolleyes: I guess back to the radio or web for this one.


:D

[garciap77]

Originally posted by LE Dad
7 on a Friday:confused: :confused: Wow, it would seem that a semi final game would be played on a Saturday where more casual fans could attend. I would like to see this game, but I am not gonna miss work to do it:rolleyes: I guess back to the radio or web for this one.


:D


You work! I thought your employees did that kind of thing for you!:D


;)

[Looking4number8]

Originally posted by garciap77
You work! I thought your employees did that kind of thing for you!:D


;)



:) :) Garcia, that's why you are my friend... you never miss anything

[garciap77]

Originally posted by Looking4number8
:) :) Garcia, that's why you are my friend... you never miss anything

I have not had a chance to mail your item! I can't drive and have to depend on my wife to get me to the post office! I'll get it to you soon!:D


P.S. I'm nothing compared to The Great "RM"; she "ROCKS"!

[tigerfan09]

Originally posted by LE Dad
7 on a Friday:confused: :confused: Wow, it would seem that a semi final game would be played on a Saturday where more casual fans could attend. I would like to see this game, but I am not gonna miss work to do it:rolleyes: I guess back to the radio or web for this one.


:D

It seems that Brad McCoy likes to play on Friday nights...he likes to keep his Saturdays open for Colt.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by garciap77
You work! I thought your employees did that kind of thing for you!:D


;) Work, as in location:D more of a noun.


I try not to do the verb type anymore than necessary :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



:cool: :)

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by tigerfan09
It seems that Brad McCoy likes to play on Friday nights...he likes to keep his Saturdays open for Colt.

Friday night lights for the STEERS and Saturdays for the Longhorns, I would hate to have our Coachs schedule!!!

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by tigerfan09
It seems that Brad McCoy likes to play on Friday nights...he likes to keep his Saturdays open for Colt. Hmmm:thinking: I guess as a dad I could understand that, but as a fan, I have a hard time justifying it. Oh well, everyone with a serious interest will be there. I just hope SC game in D1 is on Saturday:D

[steers2]

Originally posted by tigerfan09
It seems that Brad McCoy likes to play on Friday nights...he likes to keep his Saturdays open for Colt.
i think the main reason why we arent playing on staturday is cause colt hopefully will win the heisman that night.

[steers2]

does anyone know anything about the pitt team? spread or run based offense? who are their key players?

[go blue 64]

If I was looking at things right it looks like they have a QB that throws for about 185 a game, and a 5'-8" 190 lbs running back that runs for about 190 a game. If that info was correct that is very impressive. Maybe someone will clarify.

[Gobbla2001]

Graham's in trouble here... I take back my comments about Gilmer being the most talented team in 3A hands down... you're looking at a Pittsburg team with the most talent in all classes of Tx Hs FB... I mean hell, they're tied with #5 Cincy at the end of 1...

[cr180t]

Gobbla took me a while but I get it. lol

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by go blue 64
If I was looking at things right it looks like they have a QB that throws for about 185 a game, and a 5'-8" 190 lbs running back that runs for about 190 a game. If that info was correct that is very impressive. Maybe someone will clarify. You are correct, very balanced team. Senior RB is solid, Junior QB is coaches son can kill you with arm or feet. Multiple receiving targets. I think Kennedale was the only team that slowed them down. 4A Lindale was the only team to beat them. They are a little banged up but they are still putting up points.

[Golfdock]

The coaches at Graham have their kids so focused right now. Coach Davidson did just an incredible job last night against Wimberley's offense. I'm just glad such a good group of men are leading our young men. To the entire coaching staff, great job! To the players, you showed that you are one of the best teams in the state if not the best. Great job!

[statewide]

Originally posted by steers2
i think the main reason why we arent playing on staturday is cause colt hopefully will win the heisman that night.

Ain't happening. Aggies took that award from his hands and gave it to Tebow.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by steers2
does anyone know anything about the pitt team? spread or run based offense? who are their key players? Ted Burns is RB, he should be well over 2,000 yds rushing.
Mitch Manley is QB he is over 2,000 passing and is 2nd leading rusher.
They use multiple receivers out of Spread and I don't think there is much difference in the talent out there. They do not drop many.
You will see it all; zone read, direct snap to RB, bubble screen, slip screen, RB screen, deep ball. This should be a high scoring game.

[statewide]

Congratulations to Graham. Don't take this game light and you'll be playing for that State ring. Good Luck.

[statewide]

What is the Pitt record this season? Any losses?

[Gobbla2001]

Originally posted by statewide
Ain't happening. Aggies took that award from his hands and gave it to Tebow.

Now I'm not arguing for McCoy to win the Heisman, not sure if I'd vote for him even though I'm a UT fan, but your comment leads me to ask this question

After passing for over 300 yards and four TDs and rushing for 175 yards in a QB duel, what exactly did A&M do to take that award out of his hands?

Most people, okay, everyone but you would argue that helped him... by how much is a different argument, but the Aggies did absolutely NOTHING to hurt McColt's chances at winning a Heisman...

[Z-RO]

Originally posted by statewide
What is the Pitt record this season? Any losses?

13-1, only loss is to 4A Lindale

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by statewide
What is the Pitt record this season? Any losses? They are a 1 loss team,
13-1.

[Z-RO]

Graham should be fine as long as they dont freeze up because Pittsburg has more "athletes" then they do. I know it sounds crazy and people might not admit it, but it happens.

[Steer81]

If you want to HEAR-the WEB-CAST of the game from 94.7fm in Graham go to www.teamline.cc and sreach graham steers shold be on around 6 pm on Friday

[grahampaw]

Originally posted by Steer81
If you want to HEAR-the WEB-CAST of the game from 94.7fm in Graham go to www.teamline.cc and sreach graham steers shold be on around 6 pm on Friday Is there an archive of last nights game?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by statewide
Ain't happening. Aggies took that award from his hands and gave it to Tebow.


What?!:doh: :hand: :thinking:

[SteerS_2012]

Originally posted by statewide
Ain't happening. Aggies took that award from his hands and gave it to Tebow.

Sarcasm?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by SteerS_2012
Sarcasm?


I know right. I'm guessing statewide had a seizure while typing that and temporarily lost his mind....

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Golfdock
The coaches at Graham have their kids so focused right now. Coach Davidson did just an incredible job last night against Wimberley's offense. I'm just glad such a good group of men are leading our young men. To the entire coaching staff, great job! To the players, you showed that you are one of the best teams in the state if not the best. Great job!

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree: :2thumbsup

[grmfan93]

Originally posted by Z-RO
Graham should be fine as long as they dont freeze up because Pittsburg has more "athletes" then they do. I know it sounds crazy and people might not admit it, but it happens.

Ha...thats funny

[tigerfan09]

Originally posted by steers2
i think the main reason why we arent playing on staturday is cause colt hopefully will win the heisman that night.

Exactly...Colt is the reason why Brad McCoy can't play on Saturdays...I wonder what happens if Graham loses a coin toss, and the other coach demands to play on a Saturday?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by tigerfan09
Exactly...Colt is the reason why Brad McCoy can't play on Saturdays...I wonder what happens if Graham loses a coin toss, and the other coach demands to play on a Saturday?

Pretty sure any man with a son or half a heart would bargain with the man and let him see his son win a game or the heisman trophy.

[grahampaw]

How does this turn out with our lack of team speed Daddy D?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by grahampaw
How does this turn out with our lack of team speed Daddy D?


You are an idiot.

[grahampaw]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
You are an idiot. Dont pop a vessel kid,I cant believe someone wrote that either.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by grahampaw
Dont pop a vessel kid,I cant believe someone wrote that either.


Don't get your panties in a wad because my opinion says Graham doesn't have a whole lot of speed. NEVER said you aren't a good team, or that you will not win a state championship. Just said you don't have a whole lot of speed at all. Which you don't.

[Ranger Mom]

Cut it out with the name calling!!!:mad:

[grahampaw]

My faught Ranger Mom I was picking to hard.

[TXFTBALLFNATIC]

Originally posted by LE Dad
7 on a Friday:confused: :confused: Wow, it would seem that a semi final game would be played on a Saturday where more casual fans could attend. I would like to see this game, but I am not gonna miss work to do it:rolleyes: I guess back to the radio or web for this one.


:D

LE Dad Coach McCoy is going to have Heisman ceremony on Saturday.

[LE Dad]

Still would like to see this game. I know how good Pitt is and would like to see how Graham matches up with them. I think Pitt will win this game. How much the margin will be I don't know?

:)

[lostaussie]

watched pitt/pg on friday and came away not very impressed. if you can slow down burns (and he is quite gimpy) the steers will win this one if their offense is as good as advertised. pitt will score, qb is pretty good but will throw it up some. imo pirates better go rent a defense, because if the steers are as good on the offensive side of the ball as we have heard, they are gonna need some new scoreboard bulbs!!!

[BDB]

Originally posted by steers2
i think the main reason why we arent playing on staturday is cause colt hopefully will win the heisman that night.

Not after his performance last night :doh:

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Sweetwater Red
"Friday 7 in Mansfield".
Which stadium - Newsom or Anderson?

[steers2]

Originally posted by lostaussie
watched pitt/pg on friday and came away not very impressed. if you can slow down burns (and he is quite gimpy) the steers will win this one if their offense is as good as advertised. pitt will score, qb is pretty good but will throw it up some. imo pirates better go rent a defense, because if the steers are as good on the offensive side of the ball as we have heard, they are gonna need some new scoreboard bulbs!!!
is burns their running back?

[fury900]

Originally posted by LE Dad
You are correct, very balanced team. Senior RB is solid, Junior QB is coaches son can kill you with arm or feet. Multiple receiving targets. I think Kennedale was the only team that slowed them down. 4A Lindale was the only team to beat them. They are a little banged up but they are still putting up points.

Pittsburg
2009 season
Fri 08/28/09 @ Jefferson W 21 3
Fri 09/04/09 vs Winnsboro W 50 6
Fri 09/11/09 @ Princeton W 41 25
Fri 09/18/09 Queen City W 55 6
Fri 09/25/09 vs Lindale L 33 43
Fri 10/09/09 vs Atlanta W 38 13
Fri 10/16/09 @ New Boston W 31 20
Fri 10/23/09 vs Liberty Eylau W 29 12
Fri 10/30/09 @ Mount Vernon W 31 24
Fri 11/06/09 vs Pleasant Grove W 42 25
Fri 11/20/09 Ford W 53 13
Fri 11/27/09 Kennedale W 21 17

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Still would like to see this game. I know how good Pitt is and would like to see how Graham matches up with them. I think Pitt will win this game. How much the margin will be I don't know?

:)

Just don't bet all your lunch money!:D

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by BDB
Not after his performance last night :doh:

Holly Crap, I didn't know it was based on just that one game!!!
Dang we blew it. :doh: :doh:

[go blue 64]

I pick Graham 31 to 20 for Pitt. It will be a good game, but Graham should come out on top in this one.:)

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Just don't bet all your lunch money!:D LOL No betting necessary. I just think Graham is gonna be facing a very, very balanced offense.

I wish Graham good luck:D







They are going to need it LOL. :evillol: :evillol:

[Daddy D 11]

Graham wins, won't be a blow out but it'll be a comfortable win.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Graham wins, won't be a blow out but it'll be a comfortable win. :dispntd: :dispntd: Someone just don't want to make Grahampaw mad again:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LE Dad
:dispntd: :dispntd: Someone just don't want to make Grahampaw mad again:D


Yep, I'm terrified of the man with the cane:eek: ;)

[grahampaw]

Originally posted by LE Dad
:dispntd: :dispntd: Someone just don't want to make Grahampaw mad again:D Cant be mad at a man that picks Graham, LE Dad.We had Rocket on our side last week and looked what happened.

[grahampaw]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
Which stadium - Newsom or Anderson? Newsom

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by steers2
is burns their running back? burns is the running back and manley is the qb. on short yardage plays burns takes a direct snap nearly every play. you wont stop them, but if you slow them down and get some stops your offense should be able to get it done. pulling for pitt cause i'm on 12 miles from them, but don't see it happening unless they find some defense.

[go blue 64]

Originally posted by grahampaw
Newsom

Who will be the home team for this game?

[theoldoaktree]

Originally posted by go blue 64
Who will be the home team for this game? the steers will be the home team.

[Deuce]

If the Steers play like they did Friday night this will be a long day for Pitt! Defense looked great all night. Heck, I didn't event think Wimberly was going to score on our JV.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by lostaussie
burns is the running back and manley is the qb. on short yardage plays burns takes a direct snap nearly every play. you wont stop them, but if you slow them down and get some stops your offense should be able to get it done. pulling for pitt cause i'm on 12 miles from them, but don't see it happening unless they find some defense.

Has Pitt defense been having trouble against the run, pass or both?

[gibby]

Originally posted by steers2
i think the main reason why we arent playing on staturday is cause colt hopefully will win the heisman that night.


Whaa? Keenum didn't get the heisman?

[Steer81]

i see a ton of web-sites say game time at 7:30...Is it 7 or 7:30?

[Daddy D 11]

If Pittsburg has a vertical passing game than they could cause some problems for the Graham secondary.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
If Pittsburg has a vertical passing game than they could cause some problems for the Graham secondary. Pitt does have the ability to go deep. They run 3-4 wide sets and mix it up with short passes and runs. Once you start trying to take that away they will go up top.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Pitt does have the ability to go deep. They run 3-4 wide sets and mix it up with short passes and runs. Once you start trying to take that away they will go up top. right on the money...............my question is can they do it consistently enough to keep up with the high powered graham offense................and one more thing.............their kick coverage sucks. PG started inside the 50 everytime pitt kicked off.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by lostaussie
right on the money...............my question is can they do it consistently enough to keep up with the high powered graham offense................and one more thing.............their kick coverage sucks. PG started inside the 50 everytime pitt kicked off.

This could be trouble for Pitt, because Graham has 2 guys back deep than can take it to the house.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by lostaussie
right on the money...............my question is can they do it consistently enough to keep up with the high powered graham offense................and one more thing.............their kick coverage sucks. PG started inside the 50 everytime pitt kicked off. I think they can. I have only seen Graham highlights so I don't know how they will stack up against Pitts secondary. KO coverage was horrible. I don't know why they kept kicking it to #10 unless it was to wear him down? Heck of a chance to take. PG was going all out putting him on the field in all phases of the game.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
This could be trouble for Pitt, because Graham has 2 guys back deep than can take it to the house.


Every team in the world has 2 guys back deep that can take it to the house:D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Every team in the world has 2 guys back deep that can take it to the house:D Pitt can bang it into the endzone if they want. The kicker has a great leg. What they were doing Friday night I don't know. Game plan I am guessing dictated short kicks.

[steerz2010]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
If Pittsburg has a vertical passing game than they could cause some problems for the Graham secondary.

Pitt better have a vertical game because Graham's defense will shut down the short game. They swarm to the ball and few make it around the corner. Everyone talks about the offense and rightfully so but the best kept secret is the D... just watch the film boys. ;-)

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by steerz2010
Pitt better have a vertical game because Graham's defense will shut down the short game. They swarm to the ball and few make it around the corner. Everyone talks about the offense and rightfully so but the best kept secret is the D... just watch the film boys. ;-) Its not the corner they are trying to get around. Pitt lines up and runs straight ahead most of the time. They have a big line that runs and pass blocks very well.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Its not the corner they are trying to get around. Pitt lines up and runs straight ahead most of the time. They have a big line that runs and pass blocks very well.

Thats even better, because our linebackers will meet them head on at the line of scrimmage.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Deuce
Thats even better, because our linebackers will meet them head on at the line of scrimmage. and that is exactly what will open up the short passing game.:D QB loves to fake the dive to Burns, roll out and hit a receiver with slip screen LBs suck in on run support and it opens it up that much more. Pitt is highly balanced. :)

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Graham wins, won't be a blow out but it'll be a comfortable win.

Hey dd11 I see that you sobered up and want back on the STEERS BANDWAGON, but I hear the first step is a tricky one.:D :D

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by LE Dad
and that is exactly what will open up the short passing game.:D QB loves to fake the dive to Burns, roll out and hit a receiver with slip screen LBs suck in on run support and it opens it up that much more. Pitt is highly balanced. :)

So is the STEERS they can run and pass they do which ever the defense gives them. QB makes some good reads and calls the plays accordingly. STEERS have a very good Defense as well, they have lined up against some pretty strong front lines this whole season and held their own against them all. This team is very poised, they are taking this one game at a time and preparing for that one game only. The STEERS will be well prepared you can bet on that.

GO STEERS !!!!
EXPECT TO WIN, PLAY TO WIN!!!!!
A DECEMBER TO REMEMBER !!!!!!!!

[Deuce]

Originally posted by LE Dad
and that is exactly what will open up the short passing game.:D QB loves to fake the dive to Burns, roll out and hit a receiver with slip screen LBs suck in on run support and it opens it up that much more. Pitt is highly balanced. :)

So what your saying is that they are kind of like Wimberly. Graham is highly balanced as well.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Deuce
So what your saying is that they are kind of like Wimberly. Graham is highly balanced as well. Graham is good...........Pitt is also...........do not underestimate your opponent. I think Graham wins, but I see lots of scoring. I'll say somewhere in the range of 42-34.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by lostaussie
Graham is good...........Pitt is also...........do not underestimate your opponent. I think Graham wins, but I see lots of scoring. I'll say somewhere in the range of 42-34.

Don't see how anyone can underestimate another team at this point. This should be a barn burner!!

[Bullaholic]

Hate to keep saying that I only know some about Graham due to the Bulls 2 games with them---but that is the truth, so I can't say much about Pittsburg, other than I know that in past seasons when they have gone deep, they have had some really athletic "studs", by everyone's standards on their roster.

My analysis of what Pittsburg must do to beat Graham is still the same, and would apply to nearly any good spread team:

- Recognize routes and sustain good coverage w/o being out of position.

- Get to McCoy before the receivers clear and contain his scampers.

- Don't bite on the RB draws and fight off point-of-attack blocking on run plays. Graham likes to run the defense off in coverage and then give the ball to the RB. Individual defenders must be able to tackle surely in 1-on-1 situations to prevent the big plays.

- No turnovers giving a short field.

Graham's keys to victory are simple:

Continue to execute on offense as well as they have to this point, and have the defense stop several Pittsburg drives.

Nobody gets to the semis without being pretty good---these 2 teams are no different. I see a failrly high-scoring game with Graham winning by a TD or so on the strength of their offense.

This semi-final reminds me very much of the 2001 semi between Bridgeport and Commerce. The matchup appears to be very similar with Commerce being the larger, more physical athletic team, and Bridgeport being the well-executing hydra on offense. Commerce was able to take away enough of what the Bulls attack did well to narrowly win that one.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Hate to keep saying that I only know some about Graham due to the Bulls 2 games with them---but that is the truth, so I can't say much about Pittsburg, other than I know that in past seasons when they have gone deep, they have had some really athletic "studs", by everyone's standards on their roster.

My analysis of what Pittsburg must do to beat Graham is still the same, and would apply to nearly any good spread team:

- Recognize routes and sustain good coverage w/o being out of position.

- Get to McCoy before the receivers clear and contain his scampers.

- Don't bite on the RB draws and fight off point-of-attack blocking on run plays. Graham likes to run the defense off in coverage and then give the ball to the RB. Individual defenders must be able to tackle surely in 1-on-1 situations to prevent the big plays.

- No turnovers giving a short field.

Graham's keys to victory are simple:

Continue to execute on offense as well as they have to this point, and have the defense stop several Pittsburg drives.

Nobody gets to the semis without being pretty good---these 2 teams are no different. I see a failrly high-scoring game with Graham winning by a TD or so on the strength of their offense.

This semi-final reminds me very much of the 2001 semi between Bridgeport and Commerce. The matchup appears to be very similar with Commerce being the larger, more physical athletic team, and Bridgeport being the well-executing hydra on offense. Commerce was able to take away enough of what the Bulls attack did well to narrowly win that one. Pretty spot on Bull. The one thing this Pitt team has that they have lacked in the past is a good passing QB. That has helped them in more than 1 game. We shall see Friday.:confused: :confused:

[TXFTBALLFNATIC]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Don't get your panties in a wad because my opinion says Graham doesn't have a whole lot of speed. NEVER said you aren't a good team, or that you will not win a state championship. Just said you don't have a whole lot of speed at all. Which you don't.

YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND.......I guarantee that that whole backfield including receivers all run at least a 4.7 with a couple probably going 4.6. The D players that dont play offense in secondary are just as fast too. Know the kids before you make rediculous remarks. And for a 3A school that is not remotely close to a BIG SCHOOL talent pool that is very fast.

[TXFTBALLFNATIC]

Something is in the water at Lake O the Pines....

Dangerfield: Gilmer: Longview: Pittsburg are all within probably 50 miles of each other and all are representing in semis and finals.

Carthage aint far either.

If I left anybody out sorry just a quick observation.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND.......I guarantee that that whole backfield including receivers all run at least a 4.7 with a couple probably going 4.6. The D players that dont play offense in secondary are just as fast too. Know the kids before you make rediculous remarks. And for a 3A school that is not remotely close to a BIG SCHOOL talent pool that is very fast.

I can count 5 that run at least a 4.7 on our offense.

[hollywood]

I'll be pulling for Graham. It won't be easy this week or next.

[STEERFAN88]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Hate to keep saying that I only know some about Graham due to the Bulls 2 games with them---but that is the truth, so I can't say much about Pittsburg, other than I know that in past seasons when they have gone deep, they have had some really athletic "studs", by everyone's standards on their roster.

My analysis of what Pittsburg must do to beat Graham is still the same, and would apply to nearly any good spread team:

- Recognize routes and sustain good coverage w/o being out of position.

- Get to McCoy before the receivers clear and contain his scampers.

- Don't bite on the RB draws and fight off point-of-attack blocking on run plays. Graham likes to run the defense off in coverage and then give the ball to the RB. Individual defenders must be able to tackle surely in 1-on-1 situations to prevent the big plays.

- No turnovers giving a short field.

Graham's keys to victory are simple:

Continue to execute on offense as well as they have to this point, and have the defense stop several Pittsburg drives.

Nobody gets to the semis without being pretty good---these 2 teams are no different. I see a failrly high-scoring game with Graham winning by a TD or so on the strength of their offense.

This semi-final reminds me very much of the 2001 semi between Bridgeport and Commerce. The matchup appears to be very similar with Commerce being the larger, more physical athletic team, and Bridgeport being the well-executing hydra on offense. Commerce was able to take away enough of what the Bulls attack did well to narrowly win that one.

Im sorry, but Graham has proved time and time again that your not going to score over 28 on Graham. If Pittsburg doesnt have a great run and a great passing team, they wont even score 28.

Graham 35 Pittsburg 13
Enough said

[STEERFAN88]

Originally posted by Deuce
I can count 5 that run at least a 4.7 on our offense.

Graham has speed, passing accuracy, The hardest hitting defense, and the best hands in catching. All i have heard is Pittsburg has speed. Hope Pittsburg brings there basketballs to the game cause they will need to start practicing for basketball season next Monday.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by STEERFAN88
Im sorry, but Graham has proved time and time again that your not going to score over 28 on Graham. If Pittsburg doesnt have a great run and a great passing team, they wont even score 28.

Graham 35 Pittsburg 13
Enough said

I hope we can win by that much, but I think it will be a little closer this week. But then again if our D plays like it did last week, it will be a long day for Pitt. Did u graduate in '88?

[STEERFAN88]

Originally posted by Deuce
I hope we can win by that much, but I think it will be a little closer this week. But then again if our D plays like it did last week, it will be a long day for Pitt. Did u graduate in '88?

Yes

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by STEERFAN88
If Pittsburg doesnt have a great run and a great passing team, they wont even score 28.
Enough said They do, and they will. :D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND.......I guarantee that that whole backfield including receivers all run at least a 4.7 with a couple probably going 4.6. The D players that dont play offense in secondary are just as fast too. Know the kids before you make rediculous remarks. And for a 3A school that is not remotely close to a BIG SCHOOL talent pool that is very fast.


I don't need to know the kids personally to see how fast they were. There isn't one kid on the field besides #33 on the offense that has decent speed. Everyone else is just average white boy 3A speed. QUIT GETTING ALL MAD ABOUT IT. I'm not saying that Graham is going to lose and I'm not saying you are a bad team or I wasn't impressed. I'm just saying there isn't a whole lot, if any true or above average speed on the field. I watched the game with two Celina grads who in high school played in a state championship game every year and also sat with 2 LH grads. All of these kids mentioned have 2 big, fat, shiny state rings on their hand and the first comment any of us made was that the defense is slow. The fastest player on the team is #33. We laughed the entire second quarter at the though of one of the LH teams or Celina teams playing Graham.

I'm not knocking them personally, I'm not knocking the game plan or anything like that and I'm not saying that they aren't a good football team, they are obviously doing fine with exactly what they're doing. All I'm saying is that if you think you have team speed you're high.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by STEERFAN88
Graham has speed, passing accuracy, The hardest hitting defense, and the best hands in catching. All i have heard is Pittsburg has speed. Hope Pittsburg brings there basketballs to the game cause they will need to start practicing for basketball season next Monday. Let me enlighten you. Pitt has a mobile QB that is over 2000+ yds passing. They have a great back who has rushed for 2000+ for the second straight year. They use several different receivers, only 1 has exceeded 1,000 yds. They will have a bunch of sub 4.5 guys. The RB hits 4.3. Hope that helps

Oh yeah they got a couple of guys that have a little size too.


:cool:

[Daddy D 11]

Hardest hitting defense?!:thinking:

Y'all fly to the ball and cover the run very well but no one besides #2 can lay any wood.

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I don't need to know the kids personally to see how fast they were. There isn't one kid on the field besides #33 on the offense that has decent speed. Everyone else is just average white boy 3A speed. QUIT GETTING ALL MAD ABOUT IT. I'm not saying that Graham is going to lose and I'm not saying you are a bad team or I wasn't impressed. I'm just saying there isn't a whole lot, if any true or above average speed on the field. I watched the game with two Celina grads who in high school played in a state championship game every year and also sat with 2 LH grads. All of these kids mentioned have 2 big, fat, shiny state rings on their hand and the first comment any of us made was that the defense is slow. The fastest player on the team is #33. We laughed the entire second quarter at the though of one of the LH teams or Celina teams playing Graham.

I'm not knocking them personally, I'm not knocking the game plan or anything like that and I'm not saying that they aren't a good football team, they are obviously doing fine with exactly what they're doing. All I'm saying is that if you think you have team speed you're high.

What are you trying to say????? :confused:
I pick up that Graham's defense is not very fast and they don't have any speed burners on offense either, so you are just making an observation and not necessarily saying that Graham will lose to Pitt because of this lack of speed?

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I don't need to know the kids personally to see how fast they were. There isn't one kid on the field besides #33 on the offense that has decent speed. Everyone else is just average white boy 3A speed. QUIT GETTING ALL MAD ABOUT IT. I'm not saying that Graham is going to lose and I'm not saying you are a bad team or I wasn't impressed. I'm just saying there isn't a whole lot, if any true or above average speed on the field. I watched the game with two Celina grads who in high school played in a state championship game every year and also sat with 2 LH grads. All of these kids mentioned have 2 big, fat, shiny state rings on their hand and the first comment any of us made was that the defense is slow. The fastest player on the team is #33. We laughed the entire second quarter at the though of one of the LH teams or Celina teams playing Graham.

I'm not knocking them personally, I'm not knocking the game plan or anything like that and I'm not saying that they aren't a good football team, they are obviously doing fine with exactly what they're doing. All I'm saying is that if you think you have team speed you're high. People don't understand speed until they see it Daddy D.

and let me add that speed does not always determine who wins or who loses. :D

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by LE Dad
People don't understand speed until they see it Daddy D.

You really believe that, LE? Isn't that kind of up there with the "you don't know what's coming" talk?

[go blue 64]

Maybe the speed of Pitt will do Graham in and maybe it won't. Lets go ahead and play the game anyway. ok!!!!!:)

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
You really believe that, LE? Yes. When LE played Canyon in 06 the Canyon coach made a big deal about his kids were as fast, if not faster than LE kids. He was going... to run us all night long... Or something to that effect.

He was asked by our school paper after the game what his opinion was and I quote "I have never seen team speed such as that. There was nothing I could do to prepare my kids for what they saw tonight"

I did edit my origional post to say that speed does not necessarily determine the winner. If it did we would just run track against each other.:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
What are you trying to say????? :confused:
I pick up that Graham's defense is not very fast and they don't have any speed burners on offense either, so you are just making an observation and not necessarily saying that Graham will lose to Pitt because of this lack of speed?


That's exactly what I'm saying. I referring to posts saying they have TONS of speed and they don't.


Hence why I said it was just my opinion based on an observation. Maybe I didn't say it on this thread but I did on another, prolly the Wimberley-Graham thread after the game. Not sure.

[TXFTBALLFNATIC]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Hardest hitting defense?!:thinking:

Y'all fly to the ball and cover the run very well but no one besides #2 can lay any wood.

Number 34 can lay wood too but i think his girl must have his jewels in her purse the last couple of weeks.....Ask Abilene Wylie if you need proof.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
but i think his girl must have his jewels in her purse the last couple of weeks.....

That's funny:clap:

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Isn't that kind of up there with the "you don't know what's coming" talk? To a degree yes. Teams such as Wylie have an advantage over other teams in that region in that they have faced the LHs and Gilmers and have witnessed the speed at which they play
the game. The other teams have to adjust some during the game.










:)

[TXFTBALLFNATIC]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I don't need to know the kids personally to see how fast they were. There isn't one kid on the field besides #33 on the offense that has decent speed. Everyone else is just average white boy 3A speed. QUIT GETTING ALL MAD ABOUT IT. I'm not saying that Graham is going to lose and I'm not saying you are a bad team or I wasn't impressed. I'm just saying there isn't a whole lot, if any true or above average speed on the field. I watched the game with two Celina grads who in high school played in a state championship game every year and also sat with 2 LH grads. All of these kids mentioned have 2 big, fat, shiny state rings on their hand and the first comment any of us made was that the defense is slow. The fastest player on the team is #33. We laughed the entire second quarter at the though of one of the LH teams or Celina teams playing Graham.

I'm not knocking them personally, I'm not knocking the game plan or anything like that and I'm not saying that they aren't a good football team, they are obviously doing fine with exactly what they're doing. All I'm saying is that if you think you have team speed you're high.

I never get mad I just like to stand up for credit when it is due. I will be the first to admit that the boys do not have 100 meter state champion caliber speed but we are talking team speed and when phrases like swarm and gang tackle are used to describe a D then Speed must be in there somewhere.

I pound this issue because that is the key to the success of the Graham D. They never have the biggest players on the field because they decided to go with a different philosophy this year and go the fast route instead of big. I think coaches may want to pay attention because they have a formula that is obviously working. They have shut down multiple defenses this year that are scoring machines, without one player over 220 and all can run under 4.9.

SO YOUR HIGH and just because you all had a couple of buddies on your team that could roast and make you all look good does not mean you had team speed. Try and find some other kink in the Graham armour cause you are beating a dead horse. There are 13 teams out there that can verify my statements too. Just ask them.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
That's exactly what I'm saying. I referring to posts saying they have TONS of speed and they don't.


Hence why I said it was just my opinion based on an observation. Maybe I didn't say it on this thread but I did on another, prolly the Wimberley-Graham thread after the game. Not sure. Against what Graham has seen they are fast. It is a relative issue. If your kids run 4.7 and everyone elses run 4.9 then you are fast. LH kids were paobably faster than 4.7 back in the Daddy D days and in relative terms 4.7 looks slow. :D Thats all :)

[theoldoaktree]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Hardest hitting defense?!:thinking:

Y'all fly to the ball and cover the run very well but no one besides #2 can lay any wood. what about #5 #22 #30 #21 #31 #34 #7 #65 #63 #84, these guys play awesome defense(63 when hes in) but these guys hit hard, and fly to the ball.

[Z-RO]

According to DCTF Graham has some decent speed at the skills positions.

QB 4.6
RB 4.6
WR 4.6
WR 4.5 - going to have to look under Paradise for this one

That might not be 4.3 fast, but that is pretty good speed no doubt.

[go blue 64]

Maybe the speed of Pitt will do Graham in and maybe it won't,
but lets go ahead and play the game anyway, ok!!!!
:)

[Deuce]

i think what Daddy D and LE are saying is that no one west of the metroplex has any speed.
I am not saying that Graham will be faster than Pitt, or that we are an extremely fast team. I am saying that they do have good overall speed from top to bottom on defense and our backfield and receivers. As far as Pitt having a bunch of guys that are sub 4.5 guys, I will believe it when i see it. This just in, there are not that many 4.4 guys out there. There are coaches that say they have 4.4 guys, but their usually padding the clock a little.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Z-RO
According to DCTF Graham has some decent speed at the skills positions.

QB 4.6
RB 4.6
WR 4.6
WR 4.5 - going to have to look under Paradise for this one

That might not be 4.3 fast, but that is pretty good speed no doubt. That is good speed. I think it should be a good matchup.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Let me enlighten you. Pitt has a mobile QB that is over 2000+ yds passing. They have a great back who has rushed for 2000+ for the second straight year. They use several different receivers, only 1 has exceeded 1,000 yds. They will have a bunch of sub 4.5 guys. The RB hits 4.3. Hope that helps

Oh yeah they got a couple of guys that have a little size too.


:cool:

So your saying their running back is as fast as Deion Sanders?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
I never get mad I just like to stand up for credit when it is due. I will be the first to admit that the boys do not have 100 meter state champion caliber speed but we are talking team speed and when phrases like swarm and gang tackle are used to describe a D then Speed must be in there somewhere.

I pound this issue because that is the key to the success of the Graham D. They never have the biggest players on the field because they decided to go with a different philosophy this year and go the fast route instead of big. I think coaches may want to pay attention because they have a formula that is obviously working. They have shut down multiple defenses this year that are scoring machines, without one player over 220 and all can run under 4.9.

SO YOUR HIGH and just because you all had a couple of buddies on your team that could roast and make you all look good does not mean you had team speed. Try and find some other kink in the Graham armour cause you are beating a dead horse. There are 13 teams out there that can verify my statements too. Just ask them.


Swarm doesn't necessarily mean you are fast, it means your assignments are good and you are in a good position on every play because of coaching. And gang tackling means it takes another buddy to help you out because you can't solo tackle.


I never said my team or Celina were faster either. Which they were now that I think about it. You really should catch up to the conversation and get on my level.

I didn't say it's a kink in the armor either, I just said that I noticed that Graham isn't great because of their speed. They're good in playing assignment football and being aggressive on offense with their D-I quarterback.

You Graham newbies get on here and spill your coffee in your lap you are so mad when someone doesn't drop to their knees for your Graham Steers. I have not knocked on you guys once and I have pick Graham to win in every single playoff game this year, Hell I even picked em to beat Pittsburg! All I am saying is quit saying you are so so fast when you aren't. Just tell em you have a stud QB and a well coached defense that will bend but not break all the team because that is accurate. All the laying the wood and speed hooplah is lies due to your blindness considering you are personally attached to the team in one way or another.


And why in the world would you list the entire defense old man? So you are saying the entire defense lays the wood and flys to the ball? When the only one that does either of those is your linebacker #2 and he does both. Wimberley didn't have a QB that could hit the long stuff but it was continually open. Every time Wimberley ran a seam route they burned off on yall but the Graham Defensive line was dominating the Wimberley line and the QB had no time to loft a duck into the air. The 2 times he did have time he under threw it.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
i think what Daddy D and LE are saying is that no one west of the metroplex has any speed.
I am not saying that Graham will be faster than Pitt, or that we are an extremely fast team. I am saying that they do have good overall speed from top to bottom on defense and our backfield and receivers. As far as Pitt having a bunch of guys that are sub 4.5 guys, I will believe it when i see it. This just in, there are not that many 4.4 guys out there. There are coaches that say they have 4.4 guys, but their usually padding the clock a little.


Hey I haven't even said that Pitt is faster than you because I have no earthly idea. All I am saying is that if they have a QB that can throw a better deep ball than Wimberley and recievers as fast or faster than Wimberleys than the Graham secondary could be susceptible to the pass, that's all I am trying to say.


And to whoever posted the Graham 40 times... every 40 time in America is padded lol you're telling my daddy McCoy DIDN'T pad those stats before he sent them into DCTF? Or do you think those are accurate because dave campbell drove out to Graham and clocked those boys himself for the sake of being accurate?:thinking:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
So your saying their running back is as fast as Deion Sanders?


No way Pitt has a guy running a 4.3.


There are only a handful of human beings on this earth that run that fast and if there happened to be one that played 3A high school football for Pittsburg the whole state would know about him already because he would be burning off on everyone every stinking game.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Deuce
So your saying their running back is as fast as Deion Sanders? :thinking: Are you saying Deion is as fast as Ted Burns:confused:

I have not the slightest idea, but I can tell you Ted Burns is everybit as fast as Oregons LaMichael James. He hits the hole fast and hard. :D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
No way Pitt has a guy running a 4.3.


There are only a handful of human beings on this earth that run that fast and if there happened to be one that played 3A high school football for Pittsburg the whole state would know about him already because he would be burning off on everyone every stinking game. He pretty much does D. He has been slowed by a bad ankle since the Kennedale game. You might want to check his stats. He was avg over 9 yds a carry in the regular season:thinking:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LE Dad
He pretty much does D. He has been slowed by a bad ankle in the Kennedale game. You might want to check his stats. He was avg over 9 yds a carry in the regular season:thinking:


At one point, late in 2007, LH had THREE back averaging 8 yards a carry:D And they all ran 4.5+ 40 times. Just saying:rolleyes:

[go blue 64]

Originally posted by Deuce
i think what Daddy D and LE are saying is that no one west of the metroplex has any speed.


Deuce I think what they are saying, and saying it loud and clear is that they are the only ones on this board that knows anything.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
At one point, late in 2007, LH had THREE back averaging 8 yards a carry:D And they all ran 4.5+ 40 times. Just saying:rolleyes: He is a single back with no lead blockers and very little misdirection. He takes a direct snap finds a hole and goes.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by LE Dad
:thinking: Are you saying Deion is as fast as Ted Burns:confused:

I have not the slightest idea, but I can tell you Ted Burns is everybit as fast as Oregons LaMichael James. He hits the hole fast and hard. :D

Sorry, I just understood is that the guy ran a 4.3 when you posted that he ran a 4.3.

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by TXFTBALLFNATIC
YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND.......I guarantee that that whole backfield including receivers all run at least a 4.7 with a couple probably going 4.6. The D players that dont play offense in secondary are just as fast too. Know the kids before you make rediculous remarks. And for a 3A school that is not remotely close to a BIG SCHOOL talent pool that is very fast. hmmm, last time i heard this so religiously was 2004. we all know how that turned out. by no means am i saying that happens again. just saying as i have said 100 times before................i'll take team speed over a couple track stars every time...........do not underestimate your opponent. pitt has no posters to talk the talk...............they are very good:doh:

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by go blue 64
Deuce I think what they are saying, and saying it loud and clear is that they are the only ones on this board that knows anything. Huh:confused: :confused: Wow like to know how that was inferred:confused:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by go blue 64
Deuce I think what they are saying, and saying it loud and clear is that they are the only ones on this board that knows anything.


Jesus I swear not a single one of you can read!

It's ridiculous.

I have never said I am smarter.

I just stated an observation that is outside the program.


I wasn't even knocking on your team because you impressed me. All I was saying is that speed is not your strong point and that there isn't a whole lot of it out there for you guys on defense. Never said it would hurt you or that you wouldn't win. Can't wait for the playoffs to be over so all you guys crawl back into your woodpiles. Y'all are wearing me out
:hand: :mad:

[go blue 64]

I would like Daddy D 11 & LE Dad to say what they think the score of the game will be, since I do not have time to keep up with each post, if they have already given that infromation maybe they would be kind enough to post it again.

[Bullaholic]

I just don't see Pitt presenting Graham with anything that is that much above what they have seen so far----if Pitt goes up by a ton in the first half, I'll come on here and admit how wrong I was and freely agree to all the "speed" superiority brags that I've been reading, and pay the proper props to Pittsburg accordingly---not that I don't think they are a fine team right now, regardless of all the forewarnings to Graham by mostly non-Pitsburgh fans.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
I just don't see Pitt presenting Graham with anything that is that much above what they have seen so far----if Pitt goes up by a ton in the first half, I'll come on here and admit how wrong I was and freely agree to all the "speed" superiority brags that I've been reading, and pay the proper props to Pittsburg accordingly---not that I don't think they are a fine team right now, regardless of all the forewarnings to Graham by mostly non-Pitsburgh fans.


I'm not warning Graham of anything. I predicted Graham would win. I didn't even say Pitt's speed would be a problem. Just said that speed isn't Grahams strength.

Do I need to throw you into the catagory of posters that can't read bullaholic?;) :p

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by go blue 64
I would like Daddy D 11 & LE Dad to say what they think the score of the game will be, since I do not have time to keep up with each post, if they have already given that infromation maybe they would be kind enough to post it again.


What do you think the score will be oh wise one? Since you're the ringleader of the woodpile I'd love to hear it?


I personally have no earthly idea considering I know nothing about Pittsburg (which I have already stated by the way).

[go blue 64]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11



I never said my team or Celina were faster either. Which they were now that I think about it. You really should catch up to the conversation and get on my level.



you were saying??????

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by go blue 64
you were saying??????


Ok, so I admitted I am smarter than you? So what? It's true.

I was really referring to reading comprehension but oh well. You probably don't even know what comprehension means, so I will stop there.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Deuce
Sorry, I just understood is that the guy ran a 4.3 when you posted that he ran a 4.3. What I was inferring was that I have no idea how fast Deion Sanders runs. I doubt it to be a 4.3 anymore. I was comparing Burns to another very fast athlete that I personally watched. Another comparison would be Nathan Vasher of the Chicago Bears. Ted Burns is as fast as Nathan Vasher. :)

[go blue 64]

Originally posted by go blue 64
I pick Graham 31 to 20 for Pitt. It will be a good game, but Graham should come out on top in this one.:)

Daddy D 11, to use your words you should keep up with the posts, and you would know.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by go blue 64
Daddy D 11, to use your words you should keep up with the posts, and you would know.

Never said keep up with posts either:) Said you need to read my posts a little better:D


I will never go scrolling back into a thread to look up a score prediction, just like you just asked for us to re-state ours because you don't want to. So don't play the double standard card newbie.


My prediction is a Graham Steers win. Even if Pittsburg comes out and actually is faster, the execution will beat the speed.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Jesus I swear not a single one of you can read!

It's ridiculous.

I have never said I am smarter.

I just stated an observation that is outside the program and comes from someone who has seen alot more football played at this level in the playoffs than you Graham fans have. That is all.


I wasn't even knocking on your team because you impressed me. All I was saying is that speed is not your strong point and that there isn't a whole lot of it out there for you guys on defense. Never said it would hurt you or that you wouldn't win. Can't wait for the playoffs to be over so all you guys crawl back into your woodpiles. Y'all are wearing me out
:hand: :mad:

First of all, I did read where you posted that you picked Graham to win, and I thank you for the confidence in our team. I am not saying that Graham is the fastest team in the world, IMO they just have good team speed. Also, just because some of us were fortunate enough to find this sight this year, and we are so called "newbies" does not mean that we are not intelligent enough to talk football. I don't care if you have 5,000 posts are 5 some people can provide good insight to the game.

I also don't believe that anyone is wearing you out with some of the stuff that they post, or you would not keep coming back for more. Don't get me wrong, I love to argue!

[steers2]

daddy d, can i ask you one question? have you ever even seen the graham team play this year?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by go blue 64
Daddy D 11, to use your words you should keep up with the posts, and you would know.


It's just a shame that you are SO new to the board that you missed the weeks leading up to the Graham-Monahans game. You would have loved me. I was on the Graham bandwagon then, but choosing to root for a hometown foe has resulted in me leaving the wagon. Thus every Graham fans reduction of I.Q and sudden oblivious nature to whatever is posted that doesn't say "OH MY GOSH GRAHAM IS THE GREATEST TEAM EVER AND WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE ART OF THE GAME MASTERED TO A PERFECTION."

HAHA. All I am asking is that you read my posts a little more carefully and realize that I am pulling for Graham and think that they will win. I just mentioned an observation that I made during that game, THAT. IS. ALL.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I personally have no earthly idea considering I know nothing about Pittsburg (which I have already stated by the way). I have stated in several posts that I could not predict a score because I have not seen a complete Graham game film. What I saw would lead me to take Pitt by 7 with both teams exceeding 30 pts:thinking:

:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by steers2
daddy d, can i ask you one question? have you ever even seen the graham team play this year?

Steers2....



KEEP UP.

[Deuce]

Originally posted by LE Dad
What I was inferring was that I have no idea how fast Deion Sanders runs. I doubt it to be a 4.3 anymore. I was comparing Burns to another very fast athlete that I personally watched. Another comparison would be Nathan Vasher of the Chicago Bears. Ted Burns is as fast as Nathan Vasher. :)



Well I doubt it is 4.3 anymore either. I am just saying that he used to, and a 4.3 is blazing fast. Will actually agree with Daddy D here and say that if there is 4.3 kid out there we would know about it.

Is that better?

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I'm not warning Graham of anything. I predicted Graham would win. I didn't even say Pitt's speed would be a problem. Just said that speed isn't Grahams strength.

Do I need to throw you into the catagory of posters that can't read bullaholic?;) :p

No, but you can put me in the category of posters who are pretty selective about WHAT they read. :D O.k., IYO, Graham's strength is not their speed---got it, and you were just pointing that out as a general comment. Thanks for sharing--I think.

[steers2]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Steers2....



KEEP UP.

i guess not

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
No, but you can put me in the category of posters who are pretty selective about WHAT they read. :D O.k., IYO, Graham's strength is not their speed---got it, and you were just pointing that out as a general comment. Thanks for sharing--I think.


LOVE YOU:kiss: :inlove:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by steers2
i guess not


No, you are guessing wrong. If you had been paying attention you would know the answer. I guess being in high school all day kind of hurts your chances of being at a computer;) :p :taunt: :stirpot: :1popcorn:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
Will actually agree with Daddy D here and say that if there is 4.3 kid out there we would no about it.



No, you would KNOW about it. :D

[Deuce]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
No, you would KNOW about it. :D

Wife is out, had a few beers.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
Wife is out, had a few beers.


I love that:clap:

[steers2]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
No, you are guessing wrong. If you had been paying attention you would know the answer. I guess being in high school all day kind of hurts your chances of being at a computer;) :p :taunt: :stirpot: :1popcorn:

LOL, no not really, just tired of searching through all of your nonsense

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by steers2
LOL, no not really, just tired of searching through all of your nonsense


It's not nonsense. It's an outside opinion. One that isn't blinded by Steer balls.:eek: :p :D

[steers2]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
I guess being in high school all day kind of hurts your chances of being at a computer;) :p :taunt: :stirpot: :1popcorn:

i actually do have a full time job instead of sitting at Baylor running up student loans to pay back to sallie mae, i have already done that. i graduated graham high school 10 years ago when we weren't that good in football, so i am enjoying the run that these kids are on.

[Deuce]

All this talk of team speed bores me. You better have alot more than just speed at this point. Take a look at the U of Miami! Some of the best athletes around and are horrible.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by steers2
i actually do have a full time job instead of sitting at Baylor running up student loans to pay back to sallie mae


No student loans honey. None what so ever.

[steers2]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
No student loans honey. None what so ever.

dont call me honey! thanks

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
All this talk of team speed bores me. You better have alot more than just speed at this point. Take a look at the U of Miami!


LOL I always laughed at the teams that were like "oh my gosh we have so much more speed than you!".

Then LH would come out and beat them by 50 and they'd be scratching their heads. That's why I was saying that not having a ton of speed will not hurt you guys because yall execute well. I just remember hearing in the weeks before I could actually make a game of yalls that Graham was so fast and what not. Then I see you play and I was a little disappointed in that aspect. Nothing else disappointed me though. Well maybe both crowds.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by steers2
dont call me honey! thanks

Why not?

Oh and in case you are curious, in order to cheapen it up even more than the scholarships I got originally.. I elected to go through my undergraduate in 3 years:D

I mean.. why not? Right?

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by steers2
dont call me honey! thanks

Count your blessings, steers---he told me that he ""loved" me. :D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
Count your blessings, steers---he told me that he ""loved" me. :D

And you didn't say it back:(

[trusteer/trublu]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Jesus I swear not a single one of you can read!

It's ridiculous.

I have never said I am smarter.

I just stated an observation that is outside the program.


I wasn't even knocking on your team because you impressed me. All I was saying is that speed is not your strong point and that there isn't a whole lot of it out there for you guys on defense. Never said it would hurt you or that you wouldn't win. Can't wait for the playoffs to be over so all you guys crawl back into your woodpiles. Y'all are wearing me out
:hand: :mad: Tee hee hee....Stay with us Dad D....im hearing what u r sayin....wish we had more outright speed but will take what we have....:inlove: :inlove: :inlove:

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by lostaussie
hmmm, last time i heard this so religiously was 2004. we all know how that turned out. by no means am i saying that happens again. just saying as i have said 100 times before................i'll take team speed over a couple track stars every time...........do not underestimate your opponent. pitt has no posters to talk the talk...............they are very good:doh: Hmmm :thinking: I agree:D

[BLACK ATTACK]

Well, I guess it's time for an observation from a team that did not think that East Texas speed was that big of a deal. Guess what, it is!
Let me first say that I have no idea who is going to win this game, because I don't, and really don't care. But, I do have what I think is a relavent comparison. Graham has played Bridgeport twice, and won by a total of 4 points. The first time I understood they had anywhere from 4 to the whole team out because they got in trouble. The 2nd game was won by 3 points, which I am sure that the Graham faithful will say was because they got up by 21 and put in the 4th string and Bridgeport came back. I kind of doubt it though. Possibly Case had the flu, or something.
No disrespect to Bridgeport (because I think that this was one of the few times that we have beaten them), but I am quite confident that instead of 44-14, we could have beaten them by as much as we wanted if we would not have played our second team in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Maybe Graham just struggled with Bridgeport for some reason, don't know, but it happens.
We then thought that we had seen a lot of top to bottom team speed in Paris, but PG was a whole new level, and from what I can tell Pittsburg is a level above that.
I think that East Texas teams get used to the speed that all, or most of there teams have and make adjustments to it, but in the playoffs you only get one chance to adjust or overcome it. I think that if we played PG again we would learn our lesson and beat them, but we don't and they whipped our ass.
With all that said, I still have no idea who is going to win since I have no feel for Graham playing 90% West TX teams. But, I will tell all you Graham homers this....if you think the overall speed doesn't matter....it does. If you think that the amount of top to bottom athletes they will put on the field doesn't matter.....it does, and if you think that you will out athlete them at any point....you won't. Paris had a lot of very fast athletes, but they were very poorly coached. Pittsburg has as many, or more, athletes and is well coached, similar to Gilmer. If Graham takes this game lightly at any point because they beat up on Wimberly who had a lot of athletes, they will regret it.

[steerz2010]

This is a blast!!! Come on Friday!!!

[DaHop72]

GO GRAHAM STEERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Well, I guess it's time for an observation from a team that did not think that East Texas speed was that big of a deal. Guess what, it is!
Let me first say that I have no idea who is going to win this game, because I don't, and really don't care. But, I do have what I think is a relavent comparison. Graham has played Bridgeport twice, and won by a total of 4 points. The first time I understood they had anywhere from 4 to the whole team out because they got in trouble. The 2nd game was won by 3 points, which I am sure that the Graham faithful will say was because they got up by 21 and put in the 4th string and Bridgeport came back. I kind of doubt it though. Possibly Case had the flu, or something.
No disrespect to Bridgeport (because I think that this was one of the few times that we have beaten them), but I am quite confident that instead of 44-14, we could have beaten them by as much as we wanted if we would not have played our second team in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Maybe Graham just struggled with Bridgeport for some reason, don't know, but it happens.
We then thought that we had seen a lot of top to bottom team speed in Paris, but PG was a whole new level, and from what I can tell Pittsburg is a level above that.
I think that East Texas teams get used to the speed that all, or most of there teams have and make adjustments to it, but in the playoffs you only get one chance to adjust or overcome it. I think that if we played PG again we would learn our lesson and beat them, but we don't and they whipped our ass.
With all that said, I still have no idea who is going to win since I have no feel for Graham playing 90% West TX teams. But, I will tell all you Graham homers this....if you think the overall speed doesn't matter....it does. If you think that the amount of top to bottom athletes they will put on the field doesn't matter.....it does, and if you think that you will out athlete them at any point....you won't. Paris had a lot of very fast athletes, but they were very poorly coached. Pittsburg has as many, or more, athletes and is well coached, similar to Gilmer. If Graham takes this game lightly at any point because they beat up on Wimberly who had a lot of athletes, they will regret it.

O.k. Black Flag--you gave your opinion, and that is fair enough, but I differ a little with you---

I think Grahams's offense is better than Argyle's and their defense is almost as good. Further, and this is just wishfull speculation, I think Argyle would have had a hard time with the Bulls if we had played later in the year, but I'm going to admit that Argyle was the much better team the night we played this year. You did say no disrespect was intended to Bridgeport but then you come back in the next paragraph and boast you could have beaten us by as much as you wanted?

Perhaps you put a little too much stock in speed because that is what you feel knocked you out of the playoffs. I think the old East vs. West speed arguments are overblown and not reflected very well in the UIL record books if Brownwood, Celina, Abilene Wylie, Breckenridge(long time ago) in 3A, Southlake Carroll in 5A, and Highland Park in 4A are any indicators. I think they all met some teams with across the board speed and countered with a little speed of their own a time or two over the years in a couple of state title games.

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
O.k. Black Flag--you gave your opinion, and that is fair enough, but I differ a little with you---

I think Grahams's offense is better than Argyle's and their defense is almost as good. Further, and this is just wishfull speculation, I think Argyle would have had a hard time with the Bulls if we had played later in the year, but I'm going to admit that Argyle was the much better team the night we played this year. You did say no disrespect was intended to Bridgeport but then you come back in the next paragraph and boast you could have beaten us by as much as you wanted?

Perhaps you put a little too much stock in speed because that is what you feel knocked you out of the playoffs. I think the old East vs. West speed arguments are overblown and not reflected very well in the UIL record books if Brownwood, Celina, Abilene Wylie, Breckenridge(long time ago) in 3A, Southlake Carroll in 5A, and Highland Park in 4A are any indicators. I think they all met some teams with across the board speed and countered with a little speed of their own a time or two over the years in a couple of state title games.


Well, OK, Bullsh$&. Now you have given your opinion as well.

I made an attempt to be respectful to a VERY subpar Bridgeport team that would not have even made the playoffs in 9-3A. As proven by the Prosper score, and we know you would not have beaten Celina (probably not Sanger either). You went undefeated in your district, big deal. We had already went undefeated in your district before you started playing it. You had a bye in round one and barely beat China Spring. That's pretty scary! Argyle got their ass whipped by PG. No excuses here. But we beat Bridgeport this year 100 out of 100 times. You know it, I know it. But hey, whatever makes you feel better.

44-14, starters pulled middle 3rd quarter. Enough said!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Well, I guess it's time for an observation from a team that did not think that East Texas speed was that big of a deal. Guess what, it is!
Let me first say that I have no idea who is going to win this game, because I don't, and really don't care. But, I do have what I think is a relavent comparison. Graham has played Bridgeport twice, and won by a total of 4 points. The first time I understood they had anywhere from 4 to the whole team out because they got in trouble. The 2nd game was won by 3 points, which I am sure that the Graham faithful will say was because they got up by 21 and put in the 4th string and Bridgeport came back. I kind of doubt it though. Possibly Case had the flu, or something.
No disrespect to Bridgeport (because I think that this was one of the few times that we have beaten them), but I am quite confident that instead of 44-14, we could have beaten them by as much as we wanted if we would not have played our second team in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Maybe Graham just struggled with Bridgeport for some reason, don't know, but it happens.
We then thought that we had seen a lot of top to bottom team speed in Paris, but PG was a whole new level, and from what I can tell Pittsburg is a level above that.
I think that East Texas teams get used to the speed that all, or most of there teams have and make adjustments to it, but in the playoffs you only get one chance to adjust or overcome it. I think that if we played PG again we would learn our lesson and beat them, but we don't and they whipped our ass.
With all that said, I still have no idea who is going to win since I have no feel for Graham playing 90% West TX teams. But, I will tell all you Graham homers this....if you think the overall speed doesn't matter....it does. If you think that the amount of top to bottom athletes they will put on the field doesn't matter.....it does, and if you think that you will out athlete them at any point....you won't. Paris had a lot of very fast athletes, but they were very poorly coached. Pittsburg has as many, or more, athletes and is well coached, similar to Gilmer. If Graham takes this game lightly at any point because they beat up on Wimberly who had a lot of athletes, they will regret it.



The whole speed thing and athlete thing is bogus.

Graham is fine.

If you want me to send you the tape of the 2004 Jasper-LH game, or the 2006 Crockett-LH game, or the 2007 Navasota-LH game or the 2007 Carthage-LH game or even my personal favorite.. the 2007 Gilmer-LH game.. I would love to.

Then maybe you will see that speed doesn't win you anything.

210- 95 is the combined score of Liberty Hill against those opponents. It's about assignments and execution.


You Graham fans are going to love this post and say it contradicts what I was saying earlier about no speed or whatever but if you look back and I will be nice enough to tell you now that I said even with a little lack of speed, Graham is going to win this game and possibly another because they execute and play assignment football! Like bullaholic noted, all I was saying is that it's something I noticed. Speed isn't going to win Graham any games but doing everything else will every single time.

[BLACK ATTACK]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
The whole speed thing and athlete thing is bogus.

Graham is fine.

If you want me to send you the tape of the 2004 Jasper-LH game, or the 2006 Crockett-LH game, or the 2007 Navasota-LH game or the 2007 Carthage-LH game or even my personal favorite.. the 2007 Gilmer-LH game.. I would love to.

Then maybe you will see that speed doesn't win you anything.

210- 95 is the combined score of Liberty Hill against those opponents. It's about assignments and execution.


You Graham fans are going to love this post and say it contradicts what I was saying earlier about no speed or whatever but if you look back and I will be nice enough to tell you now that I said even with a little lack of speed, Graham is going to win this game and possibly another because they execute and play assignment football! Like bullaholic noted, all I was saying is that it's something I noticed. Speed isn't going to win Graham any games but doing everything else will every single time.


Huh, don't ever remember saying Graham wasn't going to win.

You always tell people to read your posts better, so go back and read mine. I was making a point that the huge gap in athletes and speed will hurt them if they don't account for it. The conclusion was drawn based upon a team that they struggled with twice and who didn't have very much at all. Is it a fair comparison? Don't know. But it is accurate.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Huh, don't ever remember saying Graham wasn't going to win.

You always tell people to read your posts better, so go back and read mine. I was making a point that the huge gap in athletes and speed will hurt them if they don't account for it. The conclusion was drawn based upon a team that they struggled with twice and who didn't have very much at all. Is it a fair comparison? Don't know. But it is accurate.

I never said that you said that Graham will lose. Let me repeat that.. I never accused you of saying Graham will lose.

Yes, it is a fair comparison. But by saying that they will never out-athlete them kind of infers that you think they will lose. My apologies for assuming.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Graham is going to win this game and possibly another because they execute and play assignment football! Hey Daddy D would you say a team that goes 5-5 on 4th down and punts 1 time the whole game executes well. :thinking:


:D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Huh, don't ever remember saying Graham wasn't going to win.

You always tell people to read your posts better, so go back and read mine. I was making a point that the huge gap in athletes and speed will hurt them if they don't account for it. The conclusion was drawn based upon a team that they struggled with twice and who didn't have very much at all. Is it a fair comparison? Don't know. But it is accurate. I got what you're saying. It is exactly what I am saying. If anyone thinks Pitt can't execute they are dead wrong. The QB is the coaches son. He reads the D very well and makes quick decisions. He has a good arm, lots of velocity on the ball. You saw first hand how well PG executes and as attested twice on the field, Pitt is way better.






:)

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Swarm doesn't necessarily mean you are fast, it means your assignments are good and you are in a good position on every play because of coaching. And gang tackling means it takes another buddy to help you out because you can't solo tackle.


I never said my team or Celina were faster either. Which they were now that I think about it. You really should catch up to the conversation and get on my level.

I didn't say it's a kink in the armor either, I just said that I noticed that Graham isn't great because of their speed. They're good in playing assignment football and being aggressive on offense with their D-I quarterback.

You Graham newbies get on here and spill your coffee in your lap you are so mad when someone doesn't drop to their knees for your Graham Steers. I have not knocked on you guys once and I have pick Graham to win in every single playoff game this year, Hell I even picked em to beat Pittsburg! All I am saying is quit saying you are so so fast when you aren't. Just tell em you have a stud QB and a well coached defense that will bend but not break all the team because that is accurate. All the laying the wood and speed hooplah is lies due to your blindness considering you are personally attached to the team in one way or another.


And why in the world would you list the entire defense old man? So you are saying the entire defense lays the wood and flys to the ball? When the only one that does either of those is your linebacker #2 and he does both. Wimberley didn't have a QB that could hit the long stuff but it was continually open. Every time Wimberley ran a seam route they burned off on yall but the Graham Defensive line was dominating the Wimberley line and the QB had no time to loft a duck into the air. The 2 times he did have time he under threw it.

In a post back verses wimberley: 150 minutes til wimberley opens a can of whoop ___ on the Steers and then you came back and said a can of whip cream on the Steers. Try to remember what you've said in the past because you did pick wimberley dd11.
There is no other way to read something into that:thinking: :D

[Deuce]

Originally posted by BLACK ATTACK
Well, I guess it's time for an observation from a team that did not think that East Texas speed was that big of a deal. Guess what, it is!
Let me first say that I have no idea who is going to win this game, because I don't, and really don't care. But, I do have what I think is a relavent comparison. Graham has played Bridgeport twice, and won by a total of 4 points. The first time I understood they had anywhere from 4 to the whole team out because they got in trouble. The 2nd game was won by 3 points, which I am sure that the Graham faithful will say was because they got up by 21 and put in the 4th string and Bridgeport came back. I kind of doubt it though. Possibly Case had the flu, or something.
No disrespect to Bridgeport (because I think that this was one of the few times that we have beaten them), but I am quite confident that instead of 44-14, we could have beaten them by as much as we wanted if we would not have played our second team in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Maybe Graham just struggled with Bridgeport for some reason, don't know, but it happens.
We then thought that we had seen a lot of top to bottom team speed in Paris, but PG was a whole new level, and from what I can tell Pittsburg is a level above that.
I think that East Texas teams get used to the speed that all, or most of there teams have and make adjustments to it, but in the playoffs you only get one chance to adjust or overcome it. I think that if we played PG again we would learn our lesson and beat them, but we don't and they whipped our ass.
With all that said, I still have no idea who is going to win since I have no feel for Graham playing 90% West TX teams. But, I will tell all you Graham homers this....if you think the overall speed doesn't matter....it does. If you think that the amount of top to bottom athletes they will put on the field doesn't matter.....it does, and if you think that you will out athlete them at any point....you won't. Paris had a lot of very fast athletes, but they were very poorly coached. Pittsburg has as many, or more, athletes and is well coached, similar to Gilmer. If Graham takes this game lightly at any point because they beat up on Wimberly who had a lot of athletes, they will regret it.

I don't think anyone said that overall speed does not matter. In fact I said that Graham does have overall good team speed, but not excellent. I am sure that Pitt will have a few speed burners, but with good team speed I think we can neutralize that. Also there is no way Graham will take this game lightly. To do so at this point of the year would be idiotic. I thank if you look at what we have done in the playoffs you will see that we have not taken anyone lightly. Graham will have to play 4 great quarters of football like they did against Wimberly to win this game.

[Deuce]

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AND FURTHERMORE, HE'S BACK!!!

[garciap77]

Here you go Deuce!:D


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[Deuce]

Thank you kind sir!

[Lion_Addict]

Get 'em STEERS!!!
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[LE Dad]

Originally posted by garciap77
Here you go Deuce!:D


http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/garciap77/DaddyD11GrahamFan.jpg Better find him some Pitt gear I think Steers are kicking Daddy D off the wagon:D

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Better find him some Pitt gear I think Steers are kicking Daddy D off the wagon:D
Just letting ya'll know that dd11 isn't all bad he just likes stirring the pot to keep things interesting on here it's all in fun:D

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Ragin Red
Just letting ya'll know that dd11 isn't all bad he just likes stirring the pot to keep things interesting on here it's all in fun:D LOL:D

Daddy D still on the wagon:thumbsup:


:clap: :clap:

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Better find him some Pitt gear I think Steers are kicking Daddy D off the wagon:D

LE DAD just wanted to know if you and Black Attack have a dog in this fight or if ya'll were just a couple of posers posting on this thread. All of the GRAHAM POSTERS do have something to cheer about, our GRAHAM STEERS are still in the PLAYOFFS is yours. We are very proud of what this years GRAHAM STEERS have accomplished so far and we will keep supporting them to the end wether it is a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP or not.

All this talk about team speed, we have enough to win because that's what we've been doing so far. Remember it's one game at a time and thats been their plan from day one.

GO STEERS!!!!
EXPECT TO WIN, PLAY TO WIN.......
A DECEMBER TO REMEMBER........
STATE BOUND!!!!!!!

[steers2]

Originally posted by Lion_Addict
Get 'em STEERS!!!
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hehe i like that animation

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Ragin Red
LE DAD just wanted to know if you and Black Attack have a dog in this fight or if ya'll were just a couple of posers posting on this thread. All of the GRAHAM POSTERS do have something to cheer about, our GRAHAM STEERS are still in the PLAYOFFS is yours. We are very proud of what this years GRAHAM STEERS have accomplished so far and we will keep supporting them to the end wether it is a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP or not.

All this talk about team speed, we have enough to win because that's what we've been doing so far. Remember it's one game at a time and thats been their plan from day one.

GO STEERS!!!!
EXPECT TO WIN, PLAY TO WIN.......
A DECEMBER TO REMEMBER........
STATE BOUND!!!!!!! I believe I might have a dog in this one. I will let you figure it out:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Black Attack is just posting what he saw:eek: :eek:

This is an open forum, correct:confused: :confused:



:D

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by LE Dad
I believe I might have a dog in this one. I will let you figure it out:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Black Attack is just posting what he saw:eek: :eek:

This is an open forum, correct:confused: :confused:

I was just wondering, didn't know if anyone from pittsburg was posting. Glad to here that you're from there, good luck to ya'll this friday.



:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Ragin Red
In a post back verses wimberley: 150 minutes til wimberley opens a can of whoop ___ on the Steers and then you came back and said a can of whip cream on the Steers. Try to remember what you've said in the past because you did pick wimberley dd11.
There is no other way to read something into that:thinking: :D


LOL you think I was serious?

Inmate knows I was kidding.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LE Dad
Hey Daddy D would you say a team that goes 5-5 on 4th down and punts 1 time the whole game executes well. :thinking:


:D

Nope:D My senior year we didn't punt for 9 straight weeks. True story.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Nope:D My senior year we didn't punt for 9 straight weeks. True story. I don't doubt you a bit. Pitt is not on that level but not exactly shabby execution either. This should be a good game. It could come down to who is able to disrupt whos game plan and who makes the most mistakes.:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LE Dad
I don't doubt you a bit. Pitt is not on that level but not exactly shabby execution either. This should be a good game. It could come down to who is able to disrupt whos game plan and who makes the most mistakes.:D


Absolutly. In the Wimberley game there was two incidents where Case just lofted the ball into double coverage and one was picked off and the other almost was if I remember. Other than that, I didn't see a pass all night that he didn't put on the money, he impressed me alot. Redshirting a year at Tx will do him a whole lot of good like it did for his brother. With that said, in a close game it scares me to think of Case just throwing it up like that. I don't know if he was doing that because he felt like he was on a playground just goofing around lol (because it was obvious at 21-0 who was going to win) or what?

Does he normally throw into such obvious double teams atleast once or twice a game?

[Deuce]

I have seen him throw into double coverage numerous times, and at times scares the $@$% out of me. But I think that can be said for almost all QB's that run the spread, and not just trying to take up for him because I am a so called homer. I will say this though, he has been pretty much dead on target the last few weeks when he gets guys open. I do believe turnovers will be very key in this game, and very well could decide who moves on.

[ccmom]

Go Steers!! :clap: I'll be the one wearing purple in the stands and yelling LOUD!! :)

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
I have seen him throw into double coverage numerous times, and at times scares the $@$% out of me. But I think that can be said for almost all QB's that run the spread, and not just trying to take up for him because I am a so called homer. I will say this though, he has been pretty much dead on target the last few weeks when he gets guys open. I do believe turnovers will be very key in this game, and very well could decide who moves on.

Only turnovers I could see you having is WRs fumbling after catch. #33 and Case won't be turning the ball over.

[hollywood]

Originally posted by ccmom
Go Steers!! :clap: I'll be the one wearing purple in the stands and yelling LOUD!! :)


Wow, a double header weekend for you. Mansfield on Friday and Dallas on Saturday. Now this is a committed Dist. 2 supporter! :thumbsup:

[Deuce]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Only turnovers I could see you having is WRs fumbling after catch. #33 and Case won't be turning the ball over.

Should not be a problem with our WR. I have not seen them fumble all year long. They just need to catch the ball!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by hollywood
Wow, a double header weekend for you. Mansfield on Friday and Dallas on Saturday. Now this is a committed Dist. 2 supporter! :thumbsup:

She just loves her young boys:kiss: :eek: :D

[hollywood]

Does Pittsburgh have a name for their defense?

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by hollywood
Does Pittsburgh have a name for their defense? from what i saw friday night they don't have a defense:D

[Deuce]

Originally posted by lostaussie
from what i saw friday night they don't have a defense:D

How was their secondary. Any more info?

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by lostaussie
from what i saw friday night they don't have a defense:D

This thread was in dire danger of fizzling out---but NOW, thanks to Aussie......:D

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by hollywood
Does Pittsburgh have a name for their defense? for the record..............they aren't the Steelers.............it's PITTSBURG

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by hollywood
Does Pittsburgh have a name for their defense?


The steel curtain:D

[ccmom]

Originally posted by hollywood
Wow, a double header weekend for you. Mansfield on Friday and Dallas on Saturday. Now this is a committed Dist. 2 supporter! :thumbsup: They haven't committed me YET, but I've had some close calls! GO DAWGS....GO STEERS!!

[Steer81]

Was watching Steer Practice and WOW are they hitting! Pitt. better be ready Steers are going to bring it!

[hollywood]

Originally posted by lostaussie
for the record..............they aren't the Steelers.............it's PITTSBURG

Oh, sorry mate. Thanks for spell checking.:D

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by Deuce
How was their secondary. Any more info? just what i saw friday and i only saw one game. PG qb had a gun and connected quite regularly thru 1st 3 quarters. I heard some fans saying he was a D1 prospect but i can't remember his name. Anyway, until they self destructed he was on the money and worked over the pitt secondary pretty good.

on another note..............I was watching the highlights on friday night fox show. they showed several passes from Case that although they were caught, passes were very wobbly. just wondering if this is the norm??

[Deuce]

Originally posted by lostaussie
just what i saw friday and i only saw one game. PG qb had a gun and connected quite regularly thru 1st 3 quarters. I heard some fans saying he was a D1 prospect but i can't remember his name. Anyway, until they self destructed he was on the money and worked over the pitt secondary pretty good.

on another note..............I was watching the highlights on friday night fox show. they showed several passes from Case that although they were caught, passes were very wobbly. just wondering if this is the norm??

You are correct, he does not throw the prettiest ball all the time.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
You are correct, he does not throw the prettiest ball all the time.

Shoot who cares? That puppy gets there.


Colt's first year and a half at Texas he had a wobbly ball as well but it was very accurate 99% of the time. Now Colts throws are mostly tight spirals, Case will straighten out in time.

[Ragin Red]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Shoot who cares? That puppy gets there.


Colt's first year and a half at Texas he had a wobbly ball as well but it was very accurate 99% of the time. Now Colts throws are mostly tight spirals, Case will straighten out in time.

That's for sure, he can throw the ball pretty accurate most of the time they are pretty tight. I saw the same thing and thought they were pretty wobbly.

[Bullaholic]

I saw nothing in either of our games that would lead me to believe that McCoy has any troubles delivering the ball accurately and ontime. He threaded the needle several times against the Bulls.

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Only turnovers I could see you having is WRs fumbling after catch. #33 and Case won't be turning the ball over.


Boy that #33 is a real go getter ain't he!!! That boy can scoot, and is stout as a bull!!! Just looking at all the #'s for both teams it is going to be a pretty close match. Were just going to man up and get it done. We have been blessed by remaining pretty much injury free and I hope we keep it that way!!!

Daddy are you going to be able to make it??? You know there is just something wrong with me calling you daddy, and you calling me inmate!!! :doh: Anyway if you can make it I'll bring your stuff, just let me know!!!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Boy that #33 is a real go getter ain't he!!! That boy can scoot, and is stout as a bull!!! Just looking at all the #'s for both teams it is going to be a pretty close match. Were just going to man up and get it done. We have been blessed by remaining pretty much injury free and I hope we keep it that way!!!

Daddy are you going to be able to make it??? You know there is just something wrong with me calling you daddy, and you calling me inmate!!! :doh: Anyway if you can make it I'll bring your stuff, just let me know!!!


No way I can make this one my man. I hate that we missed each other last week but I've got a final Saturday and another Monday. Not to mention 3 before Saturday so my week is stacked.

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Ragin Red
That's for sure, he can throw the ball pretty accurate most of the time they are pretty tight. I saw the same thing and thought they were pretty wobbly.

His hands were probably sweaty, I mean it was 28, that night!!:thinking:

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
No way I can make this one my man. I hate that we missed each other last week but I've got a final Saturday and another Monday. Not to mention 3 before Saturday so my week is stacked.

Not a prob. Got to keep those grades up!! Other wise you'll have to go to work, and we can't have that. I'll just send your Hat and shirt so you can be the only guy on the tether ball team to have one!! I'll get #33 the waterbug to sign it!!:D

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Not a prob. Got to keep those grades up!! Other wise you'll have to go to work, and we can't have that. I'll just send your Hat and shirt so you can be the only guy on the tether ball team to have one!! I'll get #33 the waterbug to sign it!!:D


HELLL YEAH. LOL

Mom showed you where I'm living these days right? I forgot to freaking show you pics at Thanksgiving:mad:

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
HELLL YEAH. LOL

Mom showed you where I'm living these days right? I forgot to freaking show you pics at Thanksgiving:mad:

Yeah, she showed me!!! Some guys have all the luck!!:eek:

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Yeah, she showed me!!! Some guys have all the luck!!:eek:


LOL got to learn to play your cards right!

[IshotAcarebear]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ragin Red
[B]LE DAD just wanted to know if you and Black Attack have a dog in this fight or if ya'll were just a couple of posers posting on this thread. All of the GRAHAM POSTERS do have something to cheer about, our GRAHAM STEERS are still in the PLAYOFFS is yours. We are very proud of what this years GRAHAM STEERS have accomplished so far and we will keep supporting them to the end wether it is a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP or not.

All this talk about team speed, we have enough to win because that's what we've been doing so far. Remember it's one game at a time and thats been their plan from day one.

^I remember Argyle and Graham meeting eachother in playoffs a few years ago... little history between these 2 teams.

(as a side note)
I for one think brigeport lost its team when they lost the Henson brothers, 1 to graduation, 1 quit I believe. Good athletes.

I hope Graham does well. Very strong program and tradition!
Can't wait to see how it all plays out.

[Daddy D 11]

I don't think they were the Henson brothers.

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by IshotAcarebear
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ragin Red
[B]LE DAD just wanted to know if you and Black Attack have a dog in this fight or if ya'll were just a couple of posers posting on this thread. All of the GRAHAM POSTERS do have something to cheer about, our GRAHAM STEERS are still in the PLAYOFFS is yours. We are very proud of what this years GRAHAM STEERS have accomplished so far and we will keep supporting them to the end wether it is a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP or not.

All this talk about team speed, we have enough to win because that's what we've been doing so far. Remember it's one game at a time and thats been their plan from day one.

^I remember Argyle and Graham meeting eachother in playoffs a few years ago... little history between these 2 teams.

(as a side note)
I for one think brigeport lost its team when they lost the Henson brothers, 1 to graduation, 1 quit I believe. Good athletes.

I hope Graham does well. Very strong program and tradition!
Can't wait to see how it all plays out.

I think you are referring to the Green bros., ISACbear. Cameron graduated and Corbin did not play this season. However, we do still have 1 of the Henson bros, Cody, a Jr., at QB. His brother graduated last year.

[Daddy D 11]

Green brothers were good ball players. Very odd Corbin did not play.

[Inmateboss]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
LOL got to learn to play your cards right!

Granted it is a very nice house boat, I would love to have one, but that one might be too big!! I think it would be too hard to dock!!! I bet it's a party palace though!!! Anyway have fun and see you later!!!

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Green brothers were good ball players. Very odd Corbin did not play.

They sure were. Sure wish you could have seen them play at 100%, Daddy D. :D

[NateDawg39]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
They sure were. Sure wish you could have seen them play at 100%, Daddy D. :D Hey guess what, we beat yall in volleyball!! HAHAHAHA your jealous our v ball players smack balls harder and faster than your players arent you Mr. Hughes??

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
They sure were. Sure wish you could have seen them play at 100%, Daddy D. :D

Actually watched that whole game again just the other day and to be honest I specifically looked for a limp when he was dropping back or throwing and there was nothing. Two times I noticed him run and throw of his wrong foot but both passes were spot on accurate. So he might have been hurt, but it didn't make a difference in the outcome:D Him healthy wouldn't have given the Bulls the extra three touchdowns they needed to merely tie the game:p :taunt:

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by NateDawg39
Hey guess what, we beat yall in volleyball!! HAHAHAHA your jealous our v ball players smack balls harder and faster than your players arent you Mr. Hughes?? this is strange............and i can't keep up:D

[Z-RO]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Absolutly. In the Wimberley game there was two incidents where Case just lofted the ball into double coverage and one was picked off and the other almost was if I remember. Other than that, I didn't see a pass all night that he didn't put on the money, he impressed me alot. Redshirting a year at Tx will do him a whole lot of good like it did for his brother. With that said, in a close game it scares me to think of Case just throwing it up like that. I don't know if he was doing that because he felt like he was on a playground just goofing around lol (because it was obvious at 21-0 who was going to win) or what?

Does he normally throw into such obvious double teams atleast once or twice a game?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

I saw several nicely placed balls, and only counted 2 or 3 actual bad passes made by McCoy. Are you sure we were watching the same game? The one that really sticks out to me was (from the fans side) when case threw one in the right endzone, left corner..after he made that throw I think I bragged about it for at least 10 mins.

[DaHop72]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Actually watched that whole game again just the other day and to be honest I specifically looked for a limp when he was dropping back or throwing and there was nothing. Two times I noticed him run and throw of his wrong foot but both passes were spot on accurate. So he might have been hurt, but it didn't make a difference in the outcome:D Him healthy wouldn't have given the Bulls the extra three touchdowns they needed to merely tie the game:p :taunt: You are such an L-7:devil: , both of the Green boys were dinged up badly in the Monahans game. Not saying that they would have made up 3 touchdowns but you never know.:doh: :doh:

[Bullaholic]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Actually watched that whole game again just the other day and to be honest I specifically looked for a limp when he was dropping back or throwing and there was nothing. Two times I noticed him run and throw of his wrong foot but both passes were spot on accurate. So he might have been hurt, but it didn't make a difference in the outcome:D Him healthy wouldn't have given the Bulls the extra three touchdowns they needed to merely tie the game:p :taunt:

You're right Daddy D, he wasn't bothered that much setting up, but he could not run full speed and cut. Corbin was banged up too badly to even play in the game. That game is past history for us both.

Now--back to Graham. Since you have familiarity with 08' Bridgeport, I will tell you that I think 09' Graham has as good or better passing game as 08' Bridgeport.

[LE Dad]

Originally posted by lostaussie
just what i saw friday and i only saw one game. PG qb had a gun and connected quite regularly thru 1st 3 quarters. I heard some fans saying he was a D1 prospect but i can't remember his name. Anyway, until they self destructed he was on the money and worked over the pitt secondary pretty good. Talked with some PG folks and they said Pitt was not blitzing much. Pitt was apparently trying to keep the PG QB contained. He had over 200 yds rushing against Argyle and Pitt was not going to let him beat them with his feet. They were pretty successful (18 yds). This approach put alot of strain on secondary but from what I heard they kept everything in front of them. The only thing that caught my attention was the KO coverage. I know that kid can put it into the EZ, and I don't know why he wasn't.

Antonio Graves is the PG QB. He is a D1 prospect in football, baseball, and basketball. He was pretty much 75% of PGs team this year. Incredible athlete. :D

[grahampaw]

Alright Daddy D I have been gone a couple of days working(we will explain what that is later).But right now I read the post and took a few notes,seeing that im a senile idiot old man I didnt want to twist your words.So lets see if I have this right..........You have a friend in Wimberley so you routed for them and besides all the flags that brought back TDs you thought they had a chance to win even though you and your Celina buddys thought they sucked............you played on a LH team that in the day was good and didnt have a punter..........Your on the short track at Baylor and rarely have time to check the downlow with all your studies.......Graham has a Qb that is slow and throws into coverage and has wobbly passes.........Graham has good speed for slow guys.........we might throw some picks and our defense will get torched deep and #2 will have to make all the tackles cause no one else can,but we win comfortable........you love Graham football even though your not on the bandwagon.......If you attend the game and your not from Pitt or Graham even though you live close your probably just a cleat chaser..........And finally ,if your from Graham and you dont have 200 post your probably just a cheerleader and dont know sqwat about football.Find a new site Newbies.........Now if I left anything out please let me know junior

And Rangermom ,I apologize for anything that DD calls me in advance.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Z-RO
:confused: :confused: :confused:

I saw several nicely placed balls, and only counted 2 or 3 actual bad passes made by McCoy. Are you sure we were watching the same game? The one that really sticks out to me was (from the fans side) when case threw one in the right endzone, left corner..after he made that throw I think I bragged about it for at least 10 mins.


DUDE! You quoted my post where I said he only made 2 bad passes in my opinion and then you say that you think he only made 2 or 3 bad passes.:doh: You just tried to argue with me but said the EXACT same thing I did!

Are we being serious?

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Bullaholic
You're right Daddy D, he wasn't bothered that much setting up, but he could not run full speed and cut. Corbin was banged up too badly to even play in the game. That game is past history for us both.

Now--back to Graham. Since you have familiarity with 08' Bridgeport, I will tell you that I think 09' Graham has as good or better passing game as 08' Bridgeport.


I went to the game last week against Wimberley. I think y'all are about the same.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by grahampaw
Alright Daddy D I have been gone a couple of days working(we will explain what that is later).But right now I read the post and took a few notes,seeing that im a senile idiot old man I didnt want to twist your words.So lets see if I have this right..........You have a friend in Wimberley so you routed for them and besides all the flags that brought back TDs you thought they had a chance to win even though you and your Celina buddys thought they sucked............you played on a LH team that in the day was good and didnt have a punter..........Your on the short track at Baylor and rarely have time to check the downlow with all your studies.......Graham has a Qb that is slow and throws into coverage and has wobbly passes.........Graham has good speed for slow guys.........we might throw some picks and our defense will get torched deep and #2 will have to make all the tackles cause no one else can,but we win comfortable........you love Graham football even though your not on the bandwagon.......If you attend the game and your not from Pitt or Graham even though you live close your probably just a cleat chaser..........And finally ,if your from Graham and you dont have 200 post your probably just a cheerleader and dont know sqwat about football.Find a new site Newbies.........Now if I left anything out please let me know junior

And Rangermom ,I apologize for anything that DD calls me in advance.


Okay, where to begin? I'm going to start at the top and then go down the long list of things you have wrong.

1. I have no friends in Wimberley. Wimberley is just a fellow district mate and has been for a long time.
2. I said that if it wasn't for the flags, Wimberley would have only been down 21-14 in the second but still would have lost the game. I never said the flags were bad calls, I said Wimberley killed themselves with penalites.
3. My Celina buddy was 56-5 in high school and all state 3 times.
4. My LH buddies ended their careers as starters 44-3 and 29-1 respectively.
5. All of them have 2 state championship rings.
6. I didn't play football, I quit after 9th grade to focus on baseball, which I went on to college to play.
7. I never said we didn't have a punter, I simply said we didn't use him for 9 straight games. Which is completely true.
8. Yes I am on the short track at Baylor and you are wrong, I do have time to check the downlow between my studies because I have a 4.0 this semester.
9. I said McCoy has good speed and only threw into coverage twice.
10. I never said his passes were wobbly, other posters did. I merely said his brothers were wobbly at times as a Freshman for the Longhorns and that Case is fine.
11. I never said Graham was slow. Just said speed isn't their strong point.
12. #2 is your best player on defense, I am glad you know he is the only one that can put a licking on someone.
13. I have never said once that I love Graham football.
14. The cleat chaser joke was exactly that, a joke.
15. Why are you following me around this board and pulling up things about stuff I posted on other threads? Obsessive much? I think so.
16. Nice try, but I have never accused anyone of being a cheerleader.
17. My only complaint about all you dimwits is that you all have one thing in common and you so graciously exhibited that talent for me in this post that I quoted.
18. The thing in common is the inability to read a post, comprehend the authors message and then click on the "reply" button without completely forgetting what you just read.
19. Obviously your mental capacity cannot endure the task of reading a post and NOT just putting words in my mouth that I NEVER said.




I'll give you an E for effort old man.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by grahampaw
Alright Daddy D I have been gone a couple of days working(we will explain what that is later).


Do not make fun of me for going to a great school and getting an education. Also, do not assume I don't know what work is. You probably had no idea that I was a foreman for the biggest construction company in central texas this past summer did you? Want to know how I got to be the foreman? I'll tell you anyways. I worked my butt off the previous summer and gained the respect of the front office and people in the field.

Work this summer will be different however considering I found out this past week I will be in Austin all summer at the State Capital working under a State Representative. (I'll explain what that is later).

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Nope:D My senior year we didn't punt for 9 straight weeks. True story.
The punters' mom was really sad he didn't make all-district. :doh: :doh: I had to explain "why". :D


***Sorry - hijack over!***

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
The punters' mom was really sad he didn't make all-district. :doh: :doh: I had to explain "why". :D


***Sorry - hijack over!***


No please stay!:kiss: But beware, Grahampaw will just put words in your mouth that you never said!

[grahampaw]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Okay, where to begin? I'm going to start at the top and then go down the long list of things you have wrong.

1. I have no friends in Wimberley. Wimberley is just a fellow district mate and has been for a long time.
2. I said that if it wasn't for the flags, Wimberley would have only been down 21-14 in the second but still would have lost the game. I never said the flags were bad calls, I said Wimberley killed themselves with penalites.
3. My Celina buddy was 56-5 in high school and all state 3 times.
4. My LH buddies ended their careers as starters 44-3 and 29-1 respectively.
5. All of them have 2 state championship rings.
6. I didn't play football, I quit after 9th grade to focus on baseball, which I went on to college to play.
7. I never said we didn't have a punter, I simply said we didn't use him for 9 straight games. Which is completely true.
8. Yes I am on the short track at Baylor and you are wrong, I do have time to check the downlow between my studies because I have a 4.0 this semester.
9. I said McCoy has good speed and only threw into coverage twice.
10. I never said his passes were wobbly, other posters did. I merely said his brothers were wobbly at times as a Freshman for the Longhorns and that Case is fine.
11. I never said Graham was slow. Just said speed isn't their strong point.
12. #2 is your best player on defense, I am glad you know he is the only one that can put a licking on someone.
13. I have never said once that I love Graham football.
14. The cleat chaser joke was exactly that, a joke.
15. Why are you following me around this board and pulling up things about stuff I posted on other threads? Obsessive much? I think so.
16. Nice try, but I have never accused anyone of being a cheerleader.
17. My only complaint about all you dimwits is that you all have one thing in common and you so graciously exhibited that talent for me in this post that I quoted.
18. The thing in common is the inability to read a post, comprehend the authors message and then click on the "reply" button without completely forgetting what you just read.
19. Obviously your mental capacity cannot endure the task of reading a post and NOT just putting words in my mouth that I NEVER said.




I'll give you an E for effort old man. Dont pop a vessel Lad,im yanking your chain.But im glad it worked.;)

[Deuce]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Okay, where to begin? I'm going to start at the top and then go down the long list of things you have wrong.

1. I have no friends in Wimberley. Wimberley is just a fellow district mate and has been for a long time.
2. I said that if it wasn't for the flags, Wimberley would have only been down 21-14 in the second but still would have lost the game. I never said the flags were bad calls, I said Wimberley killed themselves with penalites.
3. My Celina buddy was 56-5 in high school and all state 3 times.
4. My LH buddies ended their careers as starters 44-3 and 29-1 respectively.
5. All of them have 2 state championship rings.
6. I didn't play football, I quit after 9th grade to focus on baseball, which I went on to college to play.
7. I never said we didn't have a punter, I simply said we didn't use him for 9 straight games. Which is completely true.
8. Yes I am on the short track at Baylor and you are wrong, I do have time to check the downlow between my studies because I have a 4.0 this semester.
9. I said McCoy has good speed and only threw into coverage twice.
10. I never said his passes were wobbly, other posters did. I merely said his brothers were wobbly at times as a Freshman for the Longhorns and that Case is fine.
11. I never said Graham was slow. Just said speed isn't their strong point.
12. #2 is your best player on defense, I am glad you know he is the only one that can put a licking on someone.
13. I have never said once that I love Graham football.
14. The cleat chaser joke was exactly that, a joke.
15. Why are you following me around this board and pulling up things about stuff I posted on other threads? Obsessive much? I think so.
16. Nice try, but I have never accused anyone of being a cheerleader.
17. My only complaint about all you dimwits is that you all have one thing in common and you so graciously exhibited that talent for me in this post that I quoted.
18. The thing in common is the inability to read a post, comprehend the authors message and then click on the "reply" button without completely forgetting what you just read.
19. Obviously your mental capacity cannot endure the task of reading a post and NOT just putting words in my mouth that I NEVER said.




I'll give you an E for effort old man.


All of you dimwits? Chill out a little before you blow a gasket!

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Deuce
All of you dimwits? Chill out a little before you blow a gasket!

Wasn't directed at you homie.

[grahampaw]

Hey DD,Ilooked up your exact words"The only one on Graham with speed is 33".Now the last time I checked Case was on the team.So in turn that means you think hes a slow QB.See how twisting works,fun isnt it.:D :D :D

[Inmateboss]

Well, now that we have all that stright! All these gaskets getting blown and Rocket is no where to be found, what a waste!!!
:doh:

[Z-RO]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
DUDE! You quoted my post where I said he only made 2 bad passes in my opinion and then you say that you think he only made 2 or 3 bad passes.:doh: You just tried to argue with me but said the EXACT same thing I did!

Are we being serious?

Don’t try to twist things around to make yourself feel better. I was talking about throws such as that hopped pass on their first drive, not throws into double coverage. The fact of the matter is the kid can throw the ball. I’m sorry but 44+ TD's and 11 picks isn’t that bad of a stat to have. You make it sound like he just throws the ball up randomly at times. If you’re accurate enough you can throw into double coverage and be successful.


Originally posted by Daddy D 11
With that said, in a close game it scares me to think of Case just throwing it up like that.

Does he normally throw into such obvious double teams atleast once or twice a game?

If it is there and you can place the ball in there for a completion why not? I wasn’t trying to argue with you, I just don’t think it is a fair assessment from you to think he is just tossing it up randomly.

[Leopards,class of 75]

Originally posted by Inmateboss
Holly Crap, I didn't know it was based on just that one game!!!
Dang we blew it. :doh: :doh: That was what I was thinking, based on 1 game! LOL

[grahampaw]

Here is some pics found of the Wimberley game

http://picasaweb.google.com/Burnet4...VsWimberly2009#

[Z-RO]

Looks like #78 is a big boy

http://www.thepittsburggazette.com/clients/thepittsburggazette/12-2-2009-8-32-21-AM-9355980.jpg

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Z-RO
Don’t try to twist things around to make yourself feel better. I was talking about throws such as that hopped pass on their first drive, not throws into double coverage. The fact of the matter is the kid can throw the ball. I’m sorry but 44+ TD's and 11 picks isn’t that bad of a stat to have. You make it sound like he just throws the ball up randomly at times. If you’re accurate enough you can throw into double coverage and be successful.



If it is there and you can place the ball in there for a completion why not? I wasn’t trying to argue with you, I just don’t think it is a fair assessment from you to think he is just tossing it up randomly.



I specifically said right there that he only did it once or twice! And obviously he couldn't on those specific throws because they were both incomplete. Jesus Graham fans are the worst. I say 10 good things and make ONE observation about only 2 of his throws and all hell breaks loose. Give me a break, you are a joke Z RO.

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Daddy D 11
Absolutly. In the Wimberley game there was two incidents where Case just lofted the ball into double coverage and one was picked off and the other almost was if I remember. Other than that, I didn't see a pass all night that he didn't put on the money, he impressed me alot. Redshirting a year at Tx will do him a whole lot of good like it did for his brother. With that said, in a close game it scares me to think of Case just throwing it up like that. I don't know if he was doing that because he felt like he was on a playground just goofing around lol (because it was obvious at 21-0 who was going to win) or what?

Does he normally throw into such obvious double teams atleast once or twice a game?





I said this earlier.

I specifically call out TWO passes. That is it. I even acknowledge that every other pass was spot on and that he impressed me alot. You are just digging for stuff that isn't there. Run along now..

[#1 TEXAN]

I know this is my first post so I dont know any thing about high school football, but I went to waco myself and watched the game vs wimberly and if the poor hitting defense from graham plays any where close to what they did the past week it is gonna be a long nite for pitt. I gotta feeling there is gonna be a little more wood work than # 2.

[Daddy D 11]

... and another Graham Steer climbs outta the woodwork!

Welcome aboard mate.

[#1 TEXAN]

You will see your wood work on fri big daddy!:eek:

[#1 TEXAN]

Calm down daddy d I am just giving you a hard time I have just been reading this forum all year and just couldnt hold back any longer.

[Z-RO]

Daddy can yank some chains and its all in good fun, if anybody yanks his chain he gets upset lol....calm down man :p

[Daddy D 11]

Originally posted by Z-RO
Daddy can yank some chains and its all in good fun, if anybody yanks his chain he gets upset lol....calm down man :p


LOL when I yank I don't put words in your mouth:D There is nothing that makes me more angry and I swear I love every Graham poster but GEEZ you guys are good at that:eek: :mad: