What 3A district holds the most state titles????

[rolltider]

I am guessing 9-3A. anyone have any idea on this one?

[WOS87]

2-3A beats 9-3A bigtime!

Brownwood has 7 titles ('60,'65,'67,'69,'70,'78,'81)
Breckenridge has 6 titles ('29,'51,'52,'54,'58,'59)
Sweetwater has 1 title ('85)
Abilene Wylie has 1 title ('04)

15 TOTAL

[Old Tiger]

nm WO-S answered my reply

[WOS87]

Here's a copy and paste of a post I made back when the 2008 realignment first came out regarding just that. The table therefore doesn't include 2008 Playoff results. Lovejoy, Canyon Lake and Nevada Community have all qualified for the playoffs since the post was originally put up.

Click Here --->Link to Original Thread (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78226)

The 177 3A programs of the new alignment have won a combined 72 state titles over the years.

3 of the new districts have teams which can claim 32 of those titles (2-3A, 9-3A and 25-3A)

8 of the new districts have no teams that have ever won even 1 state title in football (4-3A, 11-3A, 12-3A, 18-3A, 22-3A, 27-3A, 31-3A & 32-3A)

4 of those districts have no teams that have ever even advanced to play in a state final (4-3A, 11-3A, 12-3A & 32-3A)

1 district has no teams that have ever advanced past the quarterfinal round of the playoffs (12-3A)

There are 7 programs that have never qualified for the 11-man playoffs in their history. 3 of them are brand new schools (Lovejoy, Rudder and Canyon Lake). Ranchview only just opened in 2004. Huntington has been around since 1982, and Nevada Community and Whitesboro have been waiting since the playoffs began in 1920 to get an invitation.

This is the same format I used in my playoff ranking I posted a while back. Each column represents a specific playoff round that a program has advanced to.

Ch is the total number of championships won.
Fn is the total number of losses in the state finals
Sm is the total number of losses in the semifinals
Qu is the total number of losses in the quarterfinals
16 is the total number of losses in the round of 16
32 is the total number of losses in the round of 32
64 is the total number of losses in the round of 64


http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/3a/3aplayoffrank.gif

[rolltider]

How many in the last two decades? I am guessing 9-3A has the most considering:
Brownwoods most recent 1981
Breckenridge 1959
Sweetwater 1985
So that leaves them with 1 Abilene Wylie 2004


So in the last decade 9-3A beats 2-3A big time.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by rolltider
How many in the last two decades? I am guessing 9-3A has the most considering:
Brownwoods most recent 1981
Breckenridge 1959
Sweetwater 1985
So that leaves them with 1 Abilene Wylie 2004


So in the last decade 9-3A beats 2-3A big time.

Well if you want to put qualifications on it, how many 3A titles has 9-3A won... I only count 3

WO-S is the only current 3A team to have won more than one 4A title (which will change if Stephenville and/or La Marque drop next year).

[rolltider]

Originally posted by WOS87
Well if you want to put qualifications on it, how many 3A titles has 9-3A won... I only count 3

WO-S is the only current 3A team to have won more than one 4A title


Just State Titles

Celina '95,'98',99',00',01',05',07'
Gainesville 04'
Prosper 08'

With only 3 of those being 3A.

With 4 appearances in a State Title game they did not win.


I would just say that 9-3A definitely has had the most competitive district of the past 20 years.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by rolltider
Just State Titles

Celina '95,'98',99',00',01',05',07'
Gainesville 04'
Prosper 08'

With only 3 of those being 3A.

With 4 appearances in a State Title game they did not win.


I would just say that 9-3A definitely has had the most competitive district of the past 20 years.

Celina has only been a member of 3A a total of 6 years, Argyle has only fielded a varsity football team 8 years and Prosper won a grand total of 5 playoff games in their entire history prior to the 5 they won in 2008. Not sure how you can justify extending that back 20 years.

[WOS87]

Sealy won 4 3A titles in a row in the '90's with La Grange getting one in 2000. Sealy also lost in the '99 finals and La Grange lost in the '01 finals.

Sealy would have gone 64-0 in their 4 championship seasons had it not been due to 1 loss to.... La Grange

I'd say 25-3A would be a contender over 9-3A

Just being the Devil's advocate here

:devil:

[rolltider]

Originally posted by WOS87
Celina has only been a member of 3A a total of 6 years, Argyle has only fielded a varsity football team 8 years and Prosper won a grand total of 5 playoff games in their entire history prior to the 5 they won in 2008. Not sure how you can justify extending that back 20 years.

Just curious but you were extending 2-3A titles back to 1929 that was technically a co-championship 0-0.

I basically started looking into more recent title information after noticing that 2-3A did not have any recent titles after your first response. So basically 3A started around 1950. Not wanting to offend just wanted a clear picture of a districts competitive strength in more recent years. So let's say 9-3A has been a district that has been the most competitive in the last decade.
As for the last two years winning 2007,2008, and playing for a title in 2007.

Celina was 2A in 2005 making this 4th year in 3A.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by rolltider
Just curious but you were extending 2-3A titles back to 1929 that was technically a co-championship 0-0.

I basically started looking into more recent title information after noticing that 2-3A did not have any recent titles after your first response. So basically 3A started around 1950. Not wanting to offend just wanted a clear picture of a districts competitive strength in more recent years. So let's say 9-3A has been a district that has been the most competitive in the last decade.
As for the last two years winning 2007,2008, and playing for a title in 2007.

Celina was 2A in 2005 making this 4th year in 3A.

They were also 3A in 2002 and 2003 then dropped back to 2A in 2004 and 2005. Their record winning streak came to an end in the 2002 3A playoffs against Daingerfield.


...and Celina's 1974 Championship was ALSO a co-championship. If you don't want to count Breckenridge '29, then you can't count Celina '74

No offense taken. I totally respect what the teams in 9-3A have done and I'm very glad they are in the top half of the bracket FAR away from WO-S.

I can argue stats with the best of them though. ;)

[rolltider]

Originally posted by WOS87
Sealy won 4 3A titles in a row in the '90's with La Grange getting one in 2000. Sealy also lost in the '99 finals and La Grange lost in the '01 finals.

Sealy would have gone 64-0 in their 4 championship seasons had it not been due to 1 loss to.... La Grange

I'd say 25-3A would be a contender over 9-3A

Just being the Devil's advocate here

:devil:

I will give you that and now we are talking more relevant information. So, how does all this reflect on present day strength of district.

[rolltider]

Originally posted by WOS87
They were also 3A in 2002 and 2003 then dropped back to 2A in 2004 and 2005. Their record winning streak came to an end in the 2002 3A playoffs against Daingerfield.


...and Celina's 1974 Championship was ALSO a co-championship. If you don't want to count Breckenridge '29, then you can't count Celina '74

With Celina I started with 1995.

[WOS87]

Originally posted by rolltider
I will give you that and now we are talking more relevant information. So, how does all this reflect on present day strength of district.

Top to bottom, 25-3A would be my vote in 2009... the six teams lost, what, a combined 2 games in non-district games and they played quite a few salty teams.

[rolltider]

Originally posted by WOS87
Top to bottom, 25-3A would be my vote in 2009... the six teams lost, what, a combined 2 games in non-district games and they played quite a few salty teams.

Where are they on Massey ratings?

I will stick to 9-3A on this one.
The great thing about play-offs we can re-visit the topic as things play out.

Argyle might have one of the easiest route to the semi's of any in D2. Talk about lucky!

[WOS87]

Originally posted by rolltider
Where are they on Massey ratings?

I will stick to 9-3A on this one.
The great thing about play-offs we can re-visit the topic as things play out.

Argyle might have one of the easiest route to the semi's of any in D2. Talk about lucky!

25-3A

#2 - Sealy
#7 - Giddings
#17 - La Grange
#20 - Bellville
#52 - Smithville
#83 - Columbus

The 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th place teams from 25-3A are ranked ahead of the equivalent in 9-3A


9-3A

#3 - Argyle
#4 - Prosper
#13 - Celina
#57 - Sanger
#88 - Gainesville
#118 - Whitesboro

Out of 177 total 3A teams

[big daddy russ]

I think Districts 2, 9, 18, 24 and 25 have the heaviest hitters in the state at the top of the pecking order. The thing that separates 25 from the rest is what they have at the bottom. Their fourth-place team (Bellville) was a top-ten team earlier this season and would be a serious threat for State (the Semis and beyond) if they were in the postseason, their fifth-place team (Smithville) would be district champs in no fewer than ten other districts statewide, and their last-place team (Columbus) would likely be a playoff team in roughly half the districts in the state. That's a tough district for anyone.

[lostaussie]

carthage won last year but do not show a title?

[LH Panther Mom]

Originally posted by lostaussie
carthage won last year but do not show a title?
He hasn't update yet...keep up. :p

[bowleghorses]

Originally posted by WOS87
Here's a copy and paste of a post I made back when the 2008 realignment first came out regarding just that. The table therefore doesn't include 2008 Playoff results. Lovejoy, Canyon Lake and Nevada Community have all qualified for the playoffs since the post was originally put up.

Click Here --->Link to Original Thread (http://bbs.3adownlow.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78226)

The 177 3A programs of the new alignment have won a combined 72 state titles over the years.

3 of the new districts have teams which can claim 32 of those titles (2-3A, 9-3A and 25-3A)

8 of the new districts have no teams that have ever won even 1 state title in football (4-3A, 11-3A, 12-3A, 18-3A, 22-3A, 27-3A, 31-3A & 32-3A)

4 of those districts have no teams that have ever even advanced to play in a state final (4-3A, 11-3A, 12-3A & 32-3A)

1 district has no teams that have ever advanced past the quarterfinal round of the playoffs (12-3A)

There are 7 programs that have never qualified for the 11-man playoffs in their history. 3 of them are brand new schools (Lovejoy, Rudder and Canyon Lake). Ranchview only just opened in 2004. Huntington has been around since 1982, and Nevada Community and Whitesboro have been waiting since the playoffs began in 1920 to get an invitation.

This is the same format I used in my playoff ranking I posted a while back. Each column represents a specific playoff round that a program has advanced to.

Ch is the total number of championships won.
Fn is the total number of losses in the state finals
Sm is the total number of losses in the semifinals
Qu is the total number of losses in the quarterfinals
16 is the total number of losses in the round of 16
32 is the total number of losses in the round of 32
64 is the total number of losses in the round of 64


http://idisk.mac.com/cboehme69-Public/stats/3a/3aplayoffrank.gif Prosper in ditrict 9 3A had a state championship last year.

[44INAROW]

Originally posted by bowleghorses
Prosper in ditrict 9 3A had a state championship last year.

Originally posted by LH Panther Mom
He hasn't update yet...keep up. :p :D

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by lostaussie
carthage won last year but do not show a title? I'm a little slow...............but he has had a year.............whats the problem:D

[wimbo_pro]

How many schools have won State Championships in odd-numbered years with a Head Coach who had 3 or more vowels in his last name?

LOL...kiddng WOS87...you are just incredible!!!

[Tiger Turtle]

I would generally agree that R4 is weak, but this year you have Cuero, Sealy, LaGrange, Sinton, etc. that are pretty good. I don't think R4 has to concede the title to anybody up front this year.

[Pendragon13]

Originally posted by rolltider
Just State Titles

Celina '95,'98',99',00',01',05',07'
Gainesville 04'
Prosper 08'

With only 3 of those being 3A.

With 4 appearances in a State Title game they did not win.


I would just say that 9-3A definitely has had the most competitive district of the past 20 years. That is not what your thread title is asking for. I know you thought 9-3A would be higher than it is, but as has already been pointed out...some of the teams haven't been around long and others don't have much success in the past..;)

[Z-RO]

Originally posted by wimbo_pro
How many schools have won State Championships in odd-numbered years with a Head Coach who had 3 or more vowels in his last name?

LOL...kiddng WOS87...you are just incredible!!!

Lol, but I bet he could find out within 24 hours.

[peagle]

Originally posted by Pendragon13
That is not what your thread title is asking for. I know you thought 9-3A would be higher than it is, but as has already been pointed out...some of the teams haven't been around long and others don't have much success in the past..;)

Honestly, do any of these threads stay on track?

So far I see
2-3A has the most State Titles over all
9-3A has the most in the last decade or two
9-3A has the most in the last alignment

Then some how it is about current Massey ratings.
of-course you are right some programs have not been around very long Argyle being one of those. Then it has been 4-6 years that these schools have even competed at the 3A level.
WOS87 definitely can get the info and is always using actual facts to back it up. Rolltider makes a good point that the level of play in 9-3A speaks for it self with the amount of rings that have been won out there. Any chance WOS87 knows how many districts have won back to back State Titles while still aligned together?

[lostaussie]

Originally posted by peagle
Any chance WOS87 knows how many districts have won back to back State Titles while still aligned together? awww hell, time for a new spreadsheet:D